Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-07 Thread Erick Erickson
bq: Will docValues help with memory usage? 'm still a bit fuzzy on all the ramifications of DocValues, but I somewhat doubt they'll result in index size savings, they _really_ help with loading the values for a field, but the end result is still the values in memory People who know what they'

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-07 Thread Annette Newton
Hi Erick, Thanks for the tip. Will docValues help with memory usage? It seemed a bit complicated to set up.. The index size saving was nice because that means that potentially I could use smaller provisioned IOP volumes which cost less... Thanks. On 3 May 2013 18:27, Erick Erickson wrote:

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-03 Thread Erick Erickson
Anette: Be a little careful with the index size savings, they really don't mean much for _searching_. The sotred field compression significantly reduces the size on disk, but only for the stored data which is only accessed when returning the top N docs. In terms of how many docs you can fit on you

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-03 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 5/3/2013 3:22 AM, Annette Newton wrote: > One question Shawn - did you ever get any costings around Zing? Did you > trial it? I never did do a trial. I asked them for a cost and they didn't have an immediate answer, wanted to do a phone call and get a lot of information about my setup. The pr

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-03 Thread Annette Newton
One question Shawn - did you ever get any costings around Zing? Did you trial it? Thanks. On 3 May 2013 10:03, Annette Newton wrote: > Thanks Shawn. > > I have played around with Soft Commits before and didn't seem to have any > improvement, but with the current load testing I am doing I will

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-03 Thread Annette Newton
Thanks Shawn. I have played around with Soft Commits before and didn't seem to have any improvement, but with the current load testing I am doing I will give it another go. I have researched docValues and came across the fact that it would increase the index size. With the upgrade to 4.2.1 the i

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-02 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 5/2/2013 4:24 AM, Annette Newton wrote: > Hi Shawn, > > Thanks so much for your response. We basically are very write intensive > and write throughput is pretty essential to our product. Reads are > sporadic and actually is functioning really well. > > We write on average (at the moment) 8-1

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-02 Thread Annette Newton
Hi Shawn, Thanks so much for your response. We basically are very write intensive and write throughput is pretty essential to our product. Reads are sporadic and actually is functioning really well. We write on average (at the moment) 8-12 batches of 35 documents per minute. But we really will

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-01 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 5/1/2013 8:42 AM, Annette Newton wrote: It was a single delete with a date range query. We have 8 machines each with 35GB memory, 10GB is allocated to the JVM. Garbage collection has always been a problem for us with the heap not clearing on Full garbage collection. I don't know what is bei

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-01 Thread Annette Newton
Hi Shawn Thanks for the reply. It was a single delete with a date range query. We have 8 machines each with 35GB memory, 10GB is allocated to the JVM. Garbage collection has always been a problem for us with the heap not clearing on Full garbage collection. I don't know what is being held in m

Re: Delete from Solr Cloud 4.0 index..

2013-05-01 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 5/1/2013 3:39 AM, Annette Newton wrote: > We have a 4 shard - 2 replica solr cloud setup, each with about 26GB of > index. A total of 24,000,000. We issued a rather large delete yesterday > morning to reduce that size by about half, this resulted in the loss of all > shards while the delete wa