Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-21 Thread Furkan KAMACI
y also be interested in looking at things like solrbase > >>> (on > >>> >> >> Github). > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> Otis > >>> >> >> >> -- > >>> >> >> >> Solr & ElasticSearch Support > >>> >> >> >> http://sematext.com/ > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Furkan KAMACI < > >>> >> > > > furkankamaci@ > > >> > >>> >> >> >> wrote: > >>> >> >> >> > Hi; > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > First of all should mention that I am new to Solr and making > >>> a > >>> >> >> research > >>> >> >> >> > about it. What I am trying to do that I will crawl some > >>> websites > >>> >> with > >>> >> >> >> Nutch > >>> >> >> >> > and then I will index them with Solr. (Nutch 2.1, > >>> Solr-SolrCloud > >>> >> 4.2 ) > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > I wonder about something. I have a cloud of machines that > >>> crawls > >>> >> >> websites > >>> >> >> >> > and stores that documents. Then I send that documents into > >>> >> SolrCloud. > >>> >> >> >> Solr > >>> >> >> >> > indexes that documents and generates indexes and save them. > I > >>> know > >>> >> >> that > >>> >> >> >> > from Information Retrieval theory: it *may* not be efficient > >>> to > >>> >> store > >>> >> >> >> > indexes at a NoSQL database (they are something like linked > >>> lists > >>> >> and > >>> >> >> if > >>> >> >> >> > you store them in such kind of database you *may* have a > >>> sparse > >>> >> >> >> > representation -by the way there may be some solutions for > >>> it. > >>> If > >>> >> you > >>> >> >> >> > explain them you are welcome.) > >>> >> >> >> > > >>> >> >> >> > However Solr stores some documents too (i.e. highlights) So > >>> some > >>> >> of my > >>> >> >> >> > documents will be doubled somehow. If I consider that I will > >>> have > >>> >> many > >>> >> >> >> > documents, that dobuled documents may cause a problem for > me. > >>> So is > >>> >> >> there > >>> >> >> >> > any way not storing that documents at Solr and pointing to > >>> them > >>> at > >>> >> >> >> > Hbase(where I save my crawled documents) or instead of > >>> pointing > >>> >> >> directly > >>> >> >> >> > storing them at Hbase (is it efficient or not)? > >>> >> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > >>> > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lucene.472066.n3.nabble.com/Pointing-to-Hbase-for-Docuements-or-Directly-Saving-Documents-at-Hbase-tp4054277p4056599.html > Sent from the Solr - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-16 Thread adfel70
t;> Github). >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> Otis >>> >> >> >> -- >>> >> >> >> Solr & ElasticSearch Support >>> >> >> >> http://sematext.com/ >>> >> >

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-16 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Use Solr. It's pretty clear you don't yet have any problems that would make you think about alternatives. Using Solr to store and not just index will make your life simpler (and your app simpler and likely faster). Otis -- Solr & ElasticSearch Support http://sematext.com/ On Tue, Apr 16, 20

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-16 Thread Furkan KAMACI
Thanks again for your answer. If I find any document about such comparisons that I would like to read. By the way, is there any advantage for using Lucene instead of anything else as like that: Using Lucene is naturally supported at Solr and if I use anything else I may face with some compatibili

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-16 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
People do use other data stores to retrieve data sometimes. e.g. Mongo is popular for that. Like I hinted in another email, I wouldn't necessarily recommend this for common cases. Don't do it unless you really know you need it. Otherwise, just store in Solr. Otis -- Solr & ElasticSearch Support

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-16 Thread Furkan KAMACI
Hi Otis and Jack; I have made a research about highlights and debugged code. I see that highlight are query dependent and not stored. Why Solr uses Lucene for storing text, I mean i.e. content of a web page. Is there any comparison about to store texts at Hbase or any other databases versus Lucene

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-11 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Source code is your best bet. Wiki has info about how to use it, but not how highlighting is implemented. But you don't need to understand the implementation details to understand that they are dynamic, computed specifically for each query for each matching document, so you cannot store them anyw

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-11 Thread Furkan KAMACI
Hi Otis; It seems that I should read more about highlights. Is there any where that explains in detail how highlights are generated at Solr? 2013/4/11 Otis Gospodnetic > Hi, > > You can't store highlights ahead of time because they are query > dependent. You could store documents in HBase and

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-11 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
Hi, You can't store highlights ahead of time because they are query dependent. You could store documents in HBase and use Solr just for indexing. Is that what you want to do? If so, a custom SearchComponent executed after QueryComponent could fetch data from external store like HBase. I'm not

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-11 Thread Furkan KAMACI
Actually I don't think to store documents at Solr. I want to store just highlights (snippets) at Hbase and I want to retrieve them from Hbase when needed. What do you think about separating just highlights from Solr and storing them into Hbase at Solrclod. By the way if you explain at which process

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-09 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
You may also be interested in looking at things like solrbase (on Github). Otis -- Solr & ElasticSearch Support http://sematext.com/ On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Furkan KAMACI wrote: > Hi; > > First of all should mention that I am new to Solr and making a research > about it. What I am tr

Re: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-06 Thread Jack Krupansky
s, one for text index and metadata store, and the other for raw store of the original document bytes. -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: Furkan KAMACI Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 6:01 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org Subject: Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly S

Pointing to Hbase for Docuements or Directly Saving Documents at Hbase

2013-04-06 Thread Furkan KAMACI
Hi; First of all should mention that I am new to Solr and making a research about it. What I am trying to do that I will crawl some websites with Nutch and then I will index them with Solr. (Nutch 2.1, Solr-SolrCloud 4.2 ) I wonder about something. I have a cloud of machines that crawls websites