Wei -
Here's some details on the various payload capabilities and short-comings:
https://lucidworks.com/post/solr-payloads/
SOLR-10541 is the main functional constraint (range faceting over functions).
Erik
> On May 8, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Wei wrote:
>
> Hi everyon
tems and
> 1000 stores.
>
> Option 1: use solr payloads, each document have
> store_prices_payload:store1|price1 store2|price2 .
> store1000|price1000
>
> Option 2: use dynamic fields and have 1000 fields in each document, i.e.
> field1: store1_pri
Hi everyone,
Have a question regarding typical e-commerce scenario: each item may have
different price in different store. suppose there are 10 million items and
1000 stores.
Option 1: use solr payloads, each document have
store_prices_payload:store1|price1 store2|price2 .
store1000
Hi All,
still struggling with payloads. Trying to understand better my problem I've
created a minimal reproducible example.
Basically I have a multivalued field with payloads with this schema
configuration:
That are popu
Hi all,
In our Solr 6 setup we use string payloads to boost certain tokens (URIs).
These strings are mapped to floats via a schema parameter "PayloadMapping",
which can be read out in our custom WKSimilarity class (extending
TFIDF
We are using solr payload field and noticed the values extracted using
payload() sometimes don't match the value stored in the field. Is there a
lossy encoding for the payload value?
fq=payload_field:*, fl=payload_field,payload(payload_field, 573131)
"payload_field": "573131|*1568263581*"
s for this query?“.
> The keywords should be sorted by the summed score of each keyword in a doc.
>
> To do this, I’ve tried to use the JSON Facet API to sort by the sum of all
> keyword payloads. But I couldn’t find a way to use the payload function
> within the facet sorting.
>
&
t;Which are the most relevant keywords for this query?“. The
keywords should be sorted by the summed score of each keyword in a doc.
To do this, I’ve tried to use the JSON Facet API to sort by the sum of all
keyword payloads. But I couldn’t find a way to use the payload function within
the facet
Hi Guys,
I was playing with payloads example as I had a possible use case of alternate
product titles for a product.
https://lucidworks.com/2017/09/14/solr-payloads/
bin/solr start
bin/solr create -c payloads
bin/post -c payloads -type text/csv -out yes -d $'id,vals_dpf\n1,one|1.0
tw
Hi all,
I have added a new field to my schema that is of the following type:
As a quick example, the value of this field would have values like the
following:
people: "userid1|1 userid2|56"
Basically, a user id and an integ
Looks like my issue is that my nextDoc call is consuming the first
position, and then on the call to nextPosition it's moving past where I
want it to be. I believe that I have this working properly now by checking
if the current position should or shouldn't be incremented.
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at
I am attempting to put together a DocsAndPositionsEnum that can hide terms
given the payload on the term. The idea is that if a term has a particular
access control and the user does not I don't want it to be visible. I have
based this off of
https://github.com/roshanp/lucure-core/blob/master/sr
sq[i] = new SpanTermQuery(internalTerms[i]);
}
topLevelSpans[j]= new SpanOrQuery(sq);
}
PayloadNearQuery pnq = new PayloadNearQuery(topLevelSpans,
phrase.getSlop(), true, new PF());
pnq.setBoost(phrase.getBoost());
It looks like to support Payloads in all the query types I would like to
supp
Does PayloadNearQuery suite for it?
On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
> Is there a way to consider payloads for scoring in phrase queries like
> exists in PayloadTermQuery?
>
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to consider payloads for scoring in phrase queries like
> exists in PayloadTermQuery?
>
Is there a way to consider payloads for scoring in phrase queries like
exists in PayloadTermQuery?
Well you've at least confirmed what I was thinking :).
I am using payloads now for this and I think I have something very basic
working. The results don't get dropped out when the scores are 0 so I had
to also write a custom collector that could be plugged into the
AnalyticQueryAPI (m
bq: Your "ugly problem" is my situation I think ;)
No, your problem is much worse ;(
The _contents_ of fields are restricted, which is
horrible.
OK, here's another idea out of waaay left field: Payloads.
It hinges on there being an OK number of possible combinations
which
as a value of foo and name_B_txt has a
value of foo and the user has authorizations A and B) and possibly bumping
up against the maximum clause limit as we expand the query.
These reasons were why I thought it best to use payloads to make terms with
authorizations a user can't see not impa
; 2> If you have some kind of date field say that you want to facet
>>>> over, you'd have
>>>> to control that.
>>>> 3> if you have a "bag of words" where you use copyField to add a bunch
>>>> of field's
>>>> da
>>> data to an uber-field then the user can infer some things from that
>>> info, so you probably
>>> don't want to be careful about what copyFields you use.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Erick
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM,
you use.
>>
>> Best,
>> Erick
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jamie Johnson
>> wrote:
>> > I am looking for a way to prevent fields that users shouldn't be able to
>> > know exist from contributing to the score. The goal is
areful about what copyFields you use.
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Jamie Johnson wrote:
> > I am looking for a way to prevent fields that users shouldn't be able to
> > know exist from contributing to the score. The goal is to provide a w
ided on the query. I have managed to make terms that users shouldn't
> be able to see not impact the score by implementing a custom Similarity
> class that looks at the terms payloads and returns 0 for the score if they
> shouldn't know the field exists. The issue however is
't
be able to see not impact the score by implementing a custom Similarity
class that looks at the terms payloads and returns 0 for the score if they
shouldn't know the field exists. The issue however is that I don't have
access to the request at this point so getting the users acc
Thanks David for sharing! The custom attribute approach sounds interesting
indeed.
Markus
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&g
st be modified
to carry the original PayloadAttribute to its descendants.
Markus
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> Sent: Friday 27th February 2015 17:28
> To: solr-user
> Subject: Delimited payloads input issue
>
> Hi - we attempt to use payloads to iden
Hi - we attempt to use payloads to identify different parts of extracted HTML
pages and use the DelimitedPayloadTokenFilter to assign the correct payload to
the tokens. However, we are having issues for some language analyzers and
issues with some types of content for most regular analyzers
On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Doug Turnbull <
dturnb...@opensourceconnections.com> wrote:
> Daniel, I had a similar issue. The option is not in the normal FieldType,
> so I had to create my own FieldType in a Solr plugin that enabled payloads
> in term vectors. This mostly invo
Daniel, I had a similar issue. The option is not in the normal FieldType,
so I had to create my own FieldType in a Solr plugin that enabled payloads
in term vectors. This mostly involved extending TextField, copy pasting
"createField" from FieldType (TextField's parent class) and
I see properties to enable term vectors, positions and offsets, but didn't
find one for payloads? Did I just miss it? If not, is this something
that may be added in the future?
Thanks
Hi,
I have a performance and scoring problem for phrase queries
1. Performance - phrase queries involving frequent terms are very slow
due to the reading of large positions posting list.
2. Scoring - I want to control the boost of phrase and entity (in
gazetteers) matches
Indexing all
arser}Cities_France OR Cities_England => q=max(Paris^0.5
Lyon^0.4 "La Defense"^0.3) OR max(London^0.5, Oxford^4)
Implementations possibilities I thought about:
1. An adapted synonym filter, where query term boosts are encoded as
payloads.
2. Query parser that handles the term expan
Hi Ahmet,
Yes, I did, also tried various scenarios with the same outcome. I used the
stock example, with minimum customization ( custom similarity and query
parser ).
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Hi Michael
Did you re-index after you register your custom similarity?
Ahmet
On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:36 PM, michael.boom wrote:
Hi Markus,
Do you have any example/tutorials of your payloads in custom filter
implementation ?
I really want to get payloads working, in any way
Hi Markus,
Do you have any example/tutorials of your payloads in custom filter
implementation ?
I really want to get payloads working, in any way.
Thanks!
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weird, and can't explain it.
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Strange, is it really floats you are inserting as payload? We use payloads too
but write them via PayloadAttribute in custom token filters as float.
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0 0 0], payload bytes: [B@1cad357, decoded value is 10.4
payload : [42 4a cc cd], payload bytes: [B@f922cf, decoded value is 10.4
payload : [42 c6 0 0], payload bytes: [B@5c4dc4, decoded value is 10.4
Something doesn't seem right here. Any idea why this behaviour?
Is anyone using payloads using
=
AveragePayloadFunction.docScore()\n",
"3":"\n5.0 = (MATCH) btq(includeSpanScore=false), result of:\n 5.0 =
AveragePayloadFunction.docScore()\n",
"4":"\n5.0 = (MATCH) btq(includeSpanScore=false), result of:\n 5.0 =
AveragePayloadFunction.docSco
oadFunction(), false), Occur.MUST);
} else {
q.add(new PayloadTermQuery(new Term(nv[0], nv[1]),
new AveragePayloadFunction(), false), Occur.SHOULD);
}
}
return q;
}
}
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tf(freq=1.0), with freq of:\n 1.0 = termFreq=1.0\n
> 0.7768564 = idf(docFreq=4, maxDocs=4)\n0.3125 = fieldNorm(doc=2)\n"
>},
>
> No payload seems to be considered in score calculation - do i need to use a
> special query handler?
>
>
>
> -
> Thanks
with score: 10.4
payload is: [42 4a cc cd] with score: 10.4
payload is: [42 c6 0 0] with score: 10.4
Any idea why is it always the same ?
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1.0f;
}
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> Subject: Re: Simple payloads example not working
>
> Thanks iorixxx,
>
> Actually I've just tried it and I hit a small wall, t
(byte [] bytes, int offset)
in DefaultSimilarity:
public float scorePayload(int doc, int start, int end, BytesRef payload)
So it's BytesRef vs byte[].
How should i proceed in this scenario?
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Hi Michael,
To make payloads to be considered in score calculation you need two more things:
1) A custom similarity
2) A query parser that produces Payload*Query family.
This blog post can be a good start point.
http://digitalpebble.blogspot.com/2010/08/using-payloads-with-dismaxqparser
n 1.0 = termFreq=1.0\n
0.7768564 = idf(docFreq=4, maxDocs=4)\n0.3125 = fieldNorm(doc=2)\n"
},
No payload seems to be considered in score calculation - do i need to use a
special query handler?
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Hi,
I'm trying to test payloads in Solr
Using solr 4.6.0 and the example configuration, i posted 3 docs to solr:
1
Doc one
testone|100 testtwo|30 testthree|5
I testone, you testtwo, they testthree
2
Doc two
testone|30 testtwo|200 testthree|5
I te
Hi,
I'm not really sure how/if payloads work (I tried out Rafal Kuc's payload
example in Apache Solr 4 Cookbook and did not do what i was expecting - see
below what i was expecting to do and please correct me if i was looking for
the the wrong droid)
What I am trying to achieve is simi
; > a
> > > keyword I will calculate usual document score for given fields and
> also I
> > > will make a search on payloaded field and I will multiply the total
> score
> > > with that payload.
> > >
> > > I followed that example:
> > >
o my schema. This
> > field holds keyword and probability as payload. When a user searches for
> a
> > keyword I will calculate usual document score for given fields and also I
> > will make a search on payloaded field and I will multiply the total score
> > with that pay
t payload.
>
> I followed that example:
> http://sujitpal.blogspot.com/2013/07/porting-payloads-to-solr4.html#! owever
> that example extends Qparser directly but I want to use capabilities of
> edismax.
>
> So I found that example:
> http://digitalpebble.blogspot.com/2010/08/using-payloads-wit
://sujitpal.blogspot.com/2013/07/porting-payloads-to-solr4.html#! owever
that example extends Qparser directly but I want to use capabilities of
edismax.
So I found that example:
http://digitalpebble.blogspot.com/2010/08/using-payloads-with-dismaxqparser-in.html
his
one exteds dismax and but I could not
or custom function
query?
I've followed here:
http://sujitpal.blogspot.com/2013/07/porting-payloads-to-solr4.html#! but
decodeNormValue if a final method anymore. How about that:
http://www.solrtutorial.com/custom-solr-functionquery.html
Any ideas about my aim?
Hi,
I realized that there was no mistake with the way Lucene writes
postings/payloads.
Rather, there is no flaw there.
The problem may be with the way the scorePayload() is implemented.
We need to use both payload.bytes, and payload.offset to compute the score.
So, please ignore my previous
Hi Jim,
I faced almost the same issue with payloads recently, and thought I would
rather write about it.
Please see the link below (my blog). I hope it helps.
http://hnagtech.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/using-payloads-with-solr-4-x/
<http://hnagtech.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/using-payloads-with-s
":"2","foo_ap":"bar|75"}]
> >
> > It actually stores the same payload value "50" for both docs.
> >
> > That seems like a bug, no?
> >
> > There was a core change in 4.1 to how payloads were stored. I'm
> wonde
oo_ap":"bar|75"}]
>
> It actually stores the same payload value "50" for both docs.
>
> That seems like a bug, no?
>
> There was a core change in 4.1 to how payloads were stored. I'm wondering if
> solr is not handling them properly?
This could be
50" for both docs.
That seems like a bug, no?
There was a core change in 4.1 to how payloads were stored. I'm wondering if
solr is not handling them properly?
Jim
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"id":"1",
"foo_ap":["bing|9 bing|7","badda|9 bing|7"],
"score":7.665},
{
"id":"3",
"foo_ap":["bing|9","bing|7"],
"score":8.0}
]
Thanks for any input.
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gin.
These are stored fields, so I can see clearly what the payload value should
be.
Is there any way to see what the payload value is at a very low level?
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Sen
Did you recompile your plugins using sold 4.2.0 dependency? May be method
signatures (that you override) have changed ?
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> Subject: Re: Did something change with Payloads?
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Actually, this is more like the code I've got in place:
http://sujitpal.blogspot.com/2011/01/payloads-with-solr.html
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I've been using Payloads through several versions of Solr including 4.0, but
now they are no longer working correctly on 4.2
I had originally followed Grant's article here:
http://searchhub.org/2009/08/05/getting-started-with-payloads/
I have a custom query plugin {!payload} that will
I agree with the sentiment you expressed. You can find some examples by
googling for "Solr payloads", but although there is a schema field type for
indexing specialized terms with payloads, there is no other support unless
you add custom code, such as a custom Similarity an
Hi Alexandre,
They can be used to store arbitrary data, to tweak scoring. e.g. you can give
higher boost to adjectives may be.
example schema.xml has http://searchhub.org/2009/08/05/getting-started-with-payloads/
http://digitalpebble.blogspot.com/2010/08/using-payloads-with-dismaxqparser
Solr Project about this issue?
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
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Exists some issue open in the Solr Project about this issue?
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Dear list members,
I am trying to figure out how to configure schema.xml in solr 4.0.0 so that
it takes into account part-of-speech (PoS) tags to index documents and
filter queries, all of it by using payloads.
The schema.xml file includes a payloads field in Solr 4.0.0. From the
comments I have
You can't. This is the whole "stacked segment" discussion
But you might consider external file fields, sometimes they
can work out...
Best
Erick
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:19 PM, jimtronic wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm using payloads to tie a value to an attribute fo
Hi,
I'm using payloads to tie a value to an attribute for a document -- eg a
user's rating for a document. I do not store this data, but I index it and
access the value through function queries.
I was really excited about atomic updates, but they do not work for me
because they are b
: > Hoss guessed that we could override Term Frequency with PreAnalyzedField[1]
: > for the per-keyword scores, since keywords (tags) always have a Term
: > Frequency of 1 and the TF calculation is very fast. However it turns out
: > that you can't[2] specify TF in the PreAnalyzedField.
Yeah ... s
m during indexing internally.
The second consideration is - have you considered Click Scoring Tools from
lucidworks as a relevant approach?
Regards
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:02 AM, Neil Hooey wrote:
> Hello Hoss and the list,
>
> We are currently using Lucene payloads to store per-document
Hello Hoss and the list,
We are currently using Lucene payloads to store per-document-per-keyword
scores for our dataset. Our dataset consists of photos with keywords
assigned (only once each) to them. The index is about 90 GB, running on
24-core machines with dedicated 10k SAS drives, and 16/32
Hello,
On 05/14/2012 10:33 PM, Mikhail Khludnev wrote:
It's not really out-of-the-box, but not a big deal
http://www.lucidimagination.com/blog/2010/04/18/refresh-getting-started-with-payloads/
yeah I know, but I do not know where to put/plugin the code on solrs server
side. For te
It's not really out-of-the-box, but not a big deal
http://www.lucidimagination.com/blog/2010/04/18/refresh-getting-started-with-payloads/
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:13 PM, wrote:
> Good day
>
> currently I have a field defined as can be seen below:
>
> c
t I don’t see a Jira for
returning the payload(s) for matched terms.
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Good day
currently
Good day
currently I have a field defined as can be seen below:
Basically the content for that field has the following form:
"Wiedersehn|x1062y1755 macht|x1340y1758 Freude|x1502y1758"
where the stuff after the pipe is the payload data (some coordinates). What I
want i
Hi, there
In order to keep a DocID vs UID map, we added payload to a solr core. The
search on UID is very fast but we get a problem with adding/deleting docs.
Every time we commit an adding/deleting action, solr/lucene will take up to 30
seconds to complete. Without payload, a same action can
corporated into the score.
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Jean-Claude Dauphin
wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I have implemented payloads at the index and query levels using specific
> PayloadSimilarity and PayloadQparserPlugin classes.
>
> Now I wish to check that the payload
Hello,
I have implemented payloads at the index and query levels using specific
PayloadSimilarity and PayloadQparserPlugin classes.
Now I wish to check that the payloads processing is correct and thus I
inserted the following code to check the document scores of a Solr request
x27;t think your solution can be applied, but if I'm wrong, could you
please explain me how ?
Thanks,
Ludovic.
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> I need to highlight searched words in the original text
> (xml) of a document.
Why don't you remove xml tags in an analyzer? You can highlight xml by doing so.
enumerator, is there a way to get a
TermPositions directly positioned on a document, a field and a term ?
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ghted parts into them.
I'm using an additional field for the field offsets for each field in each
document.
To store the offsets (and perhaps other infos) I'm using the payloads. (I
cannot wait for the future DocValues).
now my question, what is the fastest way to retrieve payloads (TermPos
Yes, check out the field type "payloads" in the schema.xml file. If you
set up one or more of your fields as type payloads (you would use the
DelimitedPayloadTokenFilterFactory during indexing in your analyzer
chain), you can then use the PayloadTermQuery to query it with, scoring
can be
Hi!
I'm studying a migration from "pure" Lucene to Solr, but I need a crucial
feature:
Is it posible to retrieve payloads from Solr?
I'm storing the coordinates from each term in its payload to highlight
images in client-side.
Thank you,
this preprocessed string to a field
with TermVectors.
If your query hits the page, you will get all the coordinates you want to
get.
Unfortunately, highlighting must be done on the client side.
Hope this helps
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On Mar 27, 2010, at 5:31 AM, MitchK wrote:
>
> Hello community,
>
> since I have searched for a solution to get TermPositions in Solr, I became
> more aware of the "payload"-features. So I decided to learn more about
> payloads.
> In the wiki, there is not much
Hello community,
since I have searched for a solution to get TermPositions in Solr, I became
more aware of the "payload"-features. So I decided to learn more about
payloads.
In the wiki, there is not much said about them, so I will ask here at the
mailing-list.
It seems like Pa
Lucene 2.9.1 comes with a PayloadTermQuery:
http://lucene.apache.org/java/2_9_1/api/all/org/apache/lucene/search/payloads/PayloadTermQuery.html
I have been using that to use the payload as part of the score without any
problem.
Bill
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:31 AM, Raghuveer Kancherla
huveer.kanche...@aplopio.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Thanks everyone for the responses, I am now able to get both phrase queries
> and term queries to use payloads.
>
> However the the score value for each document (and consequently, the
> ordering of documents) are coming out wron
Hi,
Thanks everyone for the responses, I am now able to get both phrase queries
and term queries to use payloads.
However the the score value for each document (and consequently, the
ordering of documents) are coming out wrong.
In the solr output appended below, document 4 has a score higher
> I was looking through some lucene
> source codes and found the following class
> org.apache.lucene.search.payloads.PayloadSpanUtil
>
> There is a function named queryToSpanQuery in this class.
> Is this the
> preferred way to convert a PhraseQuery to
> PayloadNearQuery?
queryToSpanQuery method
wer, but likely not that much slower. That
being said, I haven't benchmarked it. Then again, PNQ does stuff that PQ
doesn't, so it's an apples and oranges debate.
>
> Thanks,
> Raghu
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, AHMET ARSLAN wrote:
&
considerations while using a
PayloadNearQuery instead of a PhraseQuery?
Thanks,
Raghu
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 4:40 PM, AHMET ARSLAN wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am looking for a way to use payloads in my search
> > application. Indexing
> > data with payloads into Solr is pretty stra
> Hi,
> I am looking for a way to use payloads in my search
> application. Indexing
> data with payloads into Solr is pretty straightforward.
> However using the
> payloads during search time is a bit confusing. Can anyone
> point me in the
> right direction to enable pa
Hi,
I am looking for a way to use payloads in my search application. Indexing
data with payloads into Solr is pretty straightforward. However using the
payloads during search time is a bit confusing. Can anyone point me in the
right direction to enable payloads on a *PhraseQuery*. I looked at the
t; > HTH
> > > > Erick
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 2:13 AM, Girish Redekar
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi ,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm relatively new to S
rimarily because I can use it without writing java code
> > (rest
> > > of
> > > > my project is python coded).
> > > >
> > > > My application has the following requirements:
> > > > (a) ability to search over multiple fields, each with
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