Re: Using SolrCloud to implement a kind of federated search

2015-01-21 Thread Toke Eskildsen
fined. If the nodes are locally run proxies exposed as a Solr shard, the connection details will be de-coupled from ZooKeeper. That would also allow for mapping of field names & values and similar site-specific adjustments of requests & queries. > In my experience, there is a clear distinc

Re: Using SolrCloud to implement a kind of federated search

2015-01-20 Thread Jürgen Wagner (DVT)
There may be more. Also have a look at tribe nodes in Elasticsearch, although these don't fully address all issues I listed above. In my experience, there is a clear distinction between "technical" federated search (possibly something like the tribe nodes) and "semantic"

Using SolrCloud to implement a kind of federated search

2015-01-20 Thread Charlie Hull
Hi all, We've been discussing a way of implementing a federated search by leveraging the distributed query parts of SolrCloud. I've written this up at http://www.flax.co.uk/blog/2015/01/20/solr-superclusters-for-improved-federated-search/ and would welcome any comments or feedback. S

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-03 Thread Jack Krupansky
Yes, either term can be used to confuse people equally well! -- Jack Krupansky -Original Message- From: Alejandro Calbazana Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2014 3:28 PM To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org ; Ahmet Arslan Subject: Re: Solr + Federated Search Question Thanks Ahmet. Yay! New

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-02 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
hape/schema of the content would differ significantly). > > Thanks, > > Alejandro > > > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jack Krupansky > wrote: > > > Alejandro, you'll have to clarify how you are using the term "federated > > search&quo

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-02 Thread Ahmet Arslan
Alejandro On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jack Krupansky wrote: > Alejandro, you'll have to clarify how you are using the term "federated > search". I mean, technically Ahmet is correct in that Solr queries can be > fanned out to shards and the results from each

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-02 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
> > I have a general question about Solr in a federated search context. I > > understand that Solr does not do federated search and that different > tools > > are often used to incorporate Solr indexes into a federated/enterprise > > search solution. Does anyone have recom

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-02 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
ld like to "plug-in". The content in each repository would be of different types (the shape/schema of the content would differ significantly). Thanks, Alejandro On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Jack Krupansky wrote: > Alejandro, you'll have to clarify how you are using the

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-01 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
: https://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=6713853 On 1 October 2014 09:29, Alejandro Calbazana wrote: > Hello, > > I have a general question about Solr in a federated search context. I > understand that Solr does not do federated search and that different tools > are often used to i

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-01 Thread Jack Krupansky
Alejandro, you'll have to clarify how you are using the term "federated search". I mean, technically Ahmet is correct in that Solr queries can be fanned out to shards and the results from each shard aggregated ("federated") into a single result list, but... more t

Re: Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-01 Thread Ahmet Arslan
Hi, Federation is possible. Solr has distributed search support with shards parameter. Ahmet On Wednesday, October 1, 2014 4:29 PM, Alejandro Calbazana wrote: Hello, I have a general question about Solr in a federated search context. I understand that Solr does not do federated search

Solr + Federated Search Question

2014-10-01 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
Hello, I have a general question about Solr in a federated search context. I understand that Solr does not do federated search and that different tools are often used to incorporate Solr indexes into a federated/enterprise search solution. Does anyone have recommendations on any products (open

Re: Does solr supports Federated search, if not what framework

2013-11-07 Thread Erick Erickson
of .75 on another. So "federated search" is hard, you usually have to figure out a way to group the results in a way that's meaningful to a user. Don't quite know how carrot handles that one... FWIW, Erick On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 11:09 PM, Susheel Kumar < susheel.ku...@the

Re: Does solr supports Federated search, if not what framework

2013-11-04 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:09 AM, Susheel Kumar < susheel.ku...@thedigitalgroup.net> wrote: > Hello, > > We have a scenario where we present results to users one from solr and > other from real time web site search. The solr data we have locally > available that we are able to index but other websit

Does solr supports Federated search, if not what framework

2013-11-04 Thread Susheel Kumar
Hello, We have a scenario where we present results to users one from solr and other from real time web site search. The solr data we have locally available that we are able to index but other website search, we don't host data and it is real time. We are wondering if we can use some fede

Federated Search Design Question

2013-09-13 Thread Alejandro Calbazana
Hi, I have a general design question about federated search that I'd like to get some thoughts on. I have several line of business applications that manage their own data. There is a need to search across these LOB apps, but each of them have different authorization schemes in terms of all

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-09-09 Thread Jakub Skoczen
Hi Dan, You might want to take a look at pazpar2 [1], an open-source, federated search engine with first-class support for SOLR (with addition to standard information retrieval protocols like Z39.50/SRU). [1] http://www.indexdata.com/pazpar2 On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 9:55 PM, Paul Libbrecht

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-09-05 Thread Paul Libbrecht
ns to avoid the cost of > purchasing an expensive enterprise search platform. We are big; we > already have a closed-source enterprise search engine (and our own home > grown Entrez search used for PubMed).Since we can already do Federated > Search with the above, I am evaluating the

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-28 Thread Dan Davis
a closed-source enterprise search engine (and our own home grown Entrez search used for PubMed). Since we can already do Federated Search with the above, I am evaluating the effort of adding such to Apache Solr. Because NLM data is used in the open relevancy project, we actually have the releva

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-28 Thread Dan Davis
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 3:33 AM, Bernd Fehling < bernd.fehl...@uni-bielefeld.de> wrote: > Years ago when "Federated Search" was a buzzword we did some development > and > testing with Lucene, FAST Search, Google and several other Search Engines > according Federat

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-28 Thread Dan Davis
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Paul Libbrecht wrote: > Dan, > > if you're bound to federated search then I would say that you need to work > on the service guarantees of each of the nodes and, maybe, create > strategies to cope with bad nodes. > > paul > +1 I'll think on that.

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-27 Thread Bernd Fehling
Years ago when "Federated Search" was a buzzword we did some development and testing with Lucene, FAST Search, Google and several other Search Engines according Federated Search in Library context. The results can be found here http://pub.uni-bielefeld.de/download/2516631/2516644 Some m

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-26 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Dan, if you're bound to federated search then I would say that you need to work on the service guarantees of each of the nodes and, maybe, create strategies to cope with bad nodes. paul Le 26 août 2013 à 22:57, Dan Davis a écrit : > First answer: > > My employer is a libr

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-26 Thread Amit Jha
>> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Erick Erickson >> wrote: >> >>> The lack of global TF/IDF has been answered in the past, >>> in the sharded case, by "usually you have similar enough >>> stats that it doesn

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-26 Thread Dan Davis
hat > other alternatives I might consider. > > > > On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Erick Erickson > wrote: > >> The lack of global TF/IDF has been answered in the past, >> in the sharded case, by "usually you have similar enough >> stats that it doesn'

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-26 Thread Dan Davis
late robot rules?Is it even possible to do this from an API perspective? Wouldn't google notice? Third answer: On Gartner's 2013 Enterprise Search Magic Quadrant, LucidWorks and the other Enterprise Search firm based on Apache Solr were dinged on the lack of Federated Search. I do

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-26 Thread Paul Libbrecht
Why not simply create a meta search engine that indexes everything of each of the nodes.? (I think one calls this harvesting) I believe that this the way to avoid all sorts of performance bottleneck. As far as I could analyze, the performance of a federated search is the performance of the

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-26 Thread Dan Davis
pre-supposes a fairly > evenly distributed set of documents. > > But if you're talking about federated search across different > types of documents, then what would you "rescore" with? > How would you even consider scoring docs that are somewhat/ > totally diffe

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Davis
Since LucidWorks was dinged in the 2013 Magic Quadrant on Enterprise Search due to a lack of "Federated Search", the for-profit Enterprise Search companies must be doing it some way.Maybe relevance suffers (a lot), but you can do it if you want to. I have read very little of th

Re: More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-18 Thread Erick Erickson
The lack of global TF/IDF has been answered in the past, in the sharded case, by "usually you have similar enough stats that it doesn't matter". This pre-supposes a fairly evenly distributed set of documents. But if you're talking about federated search across different type

More on topic of Meta-search/Federated Search with Solr

2013-08-16 Thread Dan Davis
I've thought about it, and I have no time to really do a meta-search during evaluation. What I need to do is to create a single core that contains both of my data sets, and then describe the architecture that would be required to do blended results, with liberal estimates. >From the perspective o

Re: distributed / federated search Solr

2013-01-04 Thread Alexandre Rafalovitch
Carrot, which integrates with Solr among other things. You can test their federated search at: http://www.etools.ch Regards, Alex. Personal blog: http://blog.outerthoughts.com/ LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandrerafalovitch - Time is the quality of nature that keeps events from

Re: distributed / federated search Solr

2013-01-04 Thread Oleg Ruchovets
> > Ok , thank you for the answer. > > May be you can pointing me on documentation or any other source where can > > I > > get the Idea how to develop such extension. > > > > Thanks > > Oleg. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Up

Re: distributed / federated search Solr

2013-01-04 Thread Upayavira
ion or any other source where can > I > get the Idea how to develop such extension. > > Thanks > Oleg. > > > On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Upayavira wrote: > > > Solr does not support federated search in the form you describe - that > > is, to make a q

Re: distributed / federated search Solr

2013-01-04 Thread Oleg Ruchovets
Ok , thank you for the answer. May be you can pointing me on documentation or any other source where can I get the Idea how to develop such extension. Thanks Oleg. On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Upayavira wrote: > Solr does not support federated search in the form you describe - that &

Re: distributed / federated search Solr

2013-01-04 Thread Upayavira
Solr does not support federated search in the form you describe - that is, to make a query to Solr which solr defers to another search system. There may be ways you could achieve it (Solr is pretty extensible) and such a feature would be a very useful one, but it would take some, likely

federated search - Carrot Clustering Engine

2008-03-31 Thread Grégoire Neuville
Hi, I've recently posted a message on this list about the ways of implementing a 'federated search' (a search on multiple indices) whith Solr. Starting from the answers I got plus informations from the mailing list archives and the Solr Wiki, I've planned to test three con

Re: Federated Search

2008-03-03 Thread Grégoire Neuville
e. > > Otis > > -- > Sematext -- http://sematext.com/ -- Lucene - Solr - Nutch > > > - Original Message > > From: Grégoire Neuville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org > > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:38:50 AM >

Re: Federated Search

2008-02-29 Thread Otis Gospodnetic
2008 6:38:50 AM > Subject: Federated Search > > Hello, > > I've recently developped a cocoon application that search and retrieve > catalogue entries by passing requests to a solr, and then managing its > responses. Quite classical so far. The next step of the project is t

Re: Federated Search

2008-02-29 Thread Mathieu Lecarme
- browsing through the web came I accross an application called the Lucene Web Service : what do you think of it ? (its goal seems precisely to query multiple indices, it thus would be the thing I'm searching for ; but considering the scale of this project, I think I'd prefer to base my work on

Federated Search

2008-02-29 Thread Grégoire Neuville
rs of the type of the former describe. This is where my questions arise : - is Solr able to interrogate several Lucene indices ? - searching through the wiki or mailing lists for 'federated search' inevitably take me to the Distributed Search issue : as far as I've understood,

Re: Federated Search

2007-03-14 Thread Venkatesh Seetharam
Hi Jed, Thanks for sharing your thoughts and the link. Venkatesh On 3/11/07, Jed Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Venkatesh Seetharam wrote: > >> The hash idea sounds really interesting and if I had a fixed number of > indexes it would be perfect. > I'm infact looking around for a reve

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: Federated Search

2007-03-14 Thread Tim Patton
I have several indexes now (4 at the moment, 20gb each, and I want to be able to drop in a new machine easily). I'm using SQL server as a DB and it scales well. The DB doesn't get hit too hard, mostly doing location lookups, and the app does some checking to make sure a document has really c

Re: Federated Search

2007-03-10 Thread Jed Reynolds
Venkatesh Seetharam wrote: The hash idea sounds really interesting and if I had a fixed number of indexes it would be perfect. I'm infact looking around for a reverse-hash algorithm where in given a docId, I should be able to find which partition contains the document so I can save cycles

Re: Re[2]: Federated Search

2007-03-05 Thread Venkatesh Seetharam
Hi Jack, Howdy. Comments are inline. is there any reason you don't want to use HTTP? I've seen that Hadoop RPC is faster then HTTP. Also, Since Solr returns XML response, you incur overhead in parsing that and then merging. I havent sone scale testing with HTTP and XML response. Do the searc

Re: Federated Search

2007-03-05 Thread Venkatesh Seetharam
Hi Tim, Thanks for your response. Interesting idea. Does the DB scale? Do you have one single index which you plan to use Solr for or you have multiple indexes? But I don't know how big the index will grow and I wanted to be able to add servers at any point. I'm thinking of having N partition

Re[2]: Federated Search

2007-03-05 Thread Tim Patton
Jack L wrote: This is very interesting discussion. I have a few question while reading Tim and Venkatesh's email: To Tim: 1. is there any reason you don't want to use HTTP? Since solr has an HTTP interface already, I suppose using HTTP is the simplest way to communicate the solr servers

Re[2]: Federated Search

2007-03-05 Thread Jack L
This is very interesting discussion. I have a few question while reading Tim and Venkatesh's email: To Tim: 1. is there any reason you don't want to use HTTP? Since solr has an HTTP interface already, I suppose using HTTP is the simplest way to communicate the solr servers from the merger/se

Re: Federated Search

2007-03-05 Thread Tim Patton
Venkatesh Seetharam wrote: Hi Tim, Howdy. I saw your post on Solr newsgroup and caught my attention. I'm working on a similar problem for searching a vault of over 100 million XML documents. I already have the encoding part done using Hadoop and Lucene. It works like a charm. I create N in

Re: Federated Search

2007-02-27 Thread Mike Klaas
On 2/27/07, Ken Krugler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm also interested in this. For me, I don't need sorted output, faceted browsing, or alternative output formats - so something along the lines of the "Merge XML responses w/o Schema" proposal would be just fine. Open issues: 3. Highlighting

Re: Federated Search

2007-02-27 Thread Ken Krugler
I just downloaded Solr to try out, it seems like it will replace a ton of code I've written. I saw a few posts about the FederatedSearch and skimmed the ideas at http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FederatedSearch. The project I am working on has several Lucene indexes 20-40GB in size spread among a

Federated Search

2007-02-27 Thread Tim Patton
I just downloaded Solr to try out, it seems like it will replace a ton of code I've written. I saw a few posts about the FederatedSearch and skimmed the ideas at http://wiki.apache.org/solr/FederatedSearch. The project I am working on has several Lucene indexes 20-40GB in size spread among a