Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 06:11:33PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote: >> * What about the bloat? > Screw the bloat, there are larger full-blown window managers around :-) I don't think that the existence of bloat in *some* solutions for an unrelated problem domain is an excuse to add bloat to Screen.

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 01:01:10AM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote: >> "M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fits the bill. > Only a dumb terminal, though :( > http://hannes.saeurebad.de/images/no-recursive-emacs.png M-x term is not the same as M-x shell. The former provides VT220 (or thereabouts) emu

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Johannes Weiner
Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Micah Cowan wrote: >>> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much >>> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability >> >> Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Johannes Weiner
Hi, Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Johannes Weiner wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Micah Cowan wrote: To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability >>> Come to think o

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Johannes Weiner
Hi, Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Micah Cowan wrote: >> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much >> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability > > Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already exists; > "M-x term" within Emacs pretty mu

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Johannes Weiner
Hi Tom, "Tom Scogland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > All of this is pretty correct, except that the gnu emacs we know was lisp > with a C core for a long time because redraw was impossible to write > efficiently enough in lisp for some reason. As such, when the program > entered that state, ever

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-26 Thread Johannes Weiner
Hi, Sadrul Habib Chowdhury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi. I started working on a lua script loader for screen last night. I am > quite happy with the progress so far. I would like to know what people > think about this kind of work. I discussed about this briefly with Micah > last night, and h

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Tom Scogland
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:22 PM, Trent W. Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:16:30PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: > > I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme > > /Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does. > > Last time I looked,

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 02:16:30PM -0700, Micah Cowan wrote: > I'm not sure I agree on "people know them well" for Haskell. Scheme > /Lisp probably has a larger developer base than Haskell does. Last time I looked, on Freenode, #haskell has around double the number of people that #scheme has. Whi

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Weiner wrote: > Hi, > > Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Micah Cowan wrote: >>> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much >>> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability >> Come to think of it, tha

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Mark Eichin
Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Micah Cowan wrote: >> To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much >> sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability > > Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already exists; > "M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fi

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Tom Scogland
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tom Scogland wrote: > >> While I'm relatively new here I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the > >> matter. Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it > >>

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Micah Cowan wrote: > To be honest, implementing a Screen within Emacs makes almost as much > sense as giving Screen Emacs-like scriptability Come to think of it, that functionality more-or-less already exists; "M-x term" within Emacs pretty much fits

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Scogland wrote: >> While I'm relatively new here I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on the >> matter. Having everything doable via scripting sounds good, but it >> should be a situation where something is only done in scripting if you >> want to rep

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Tom Scogland
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 2:07 PM, Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Johannes Weiner wrote: > > The trend I would like to see is not just extending screen with a > > powerful language but reducing the C code where possible by this > > langua

Re: [screen-devel] Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Johannes Weiner wrote: > The trend I would like to see is not just extending screen with a > powerful language but reducing the C code where possible by this > language. Sort of like it's done with emacs (only that emacs was > probably written to t

Scripting Support for Screen

2008-07-24 Thread Sadrul Habib Chowdhury
Hi. I started working on a lua script loader for screen last night. I am quite happy with the progress so far. I would like to know what people think about this kind of work. I discussed about this briefly with Micah last night, and he also thought discussing this in the list would be useful. I wi