Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Concise: Because not all systems have PAM, and some of those lack standard getpw* interface to get the encrypted password. Heck, in some there IS no password. Detailed: Kerberos and ssh-keys are two such examples. I am sure there's at

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:08:50PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: But you've stated that with pam in the mix and a "null" password, you basically get it accepting any password. So you too, are an audience for the "keep this password in .screen

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:08:50PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > But you've stated that with pam in the mix and a "null" password, > you basically get it accepting any password. So you too, are an > audience for the "keep this password in .screenrc and be done with > it" :) Nope. The

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 09:04:25PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: It asks for *both* the login password and the screen session password. Yes, and the point is: I don't have a login password, so upon "locking" I am given the opportunity to cre

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 09:04:25PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> It asks for *both* the login password and the screen session >> password. > > Yes, and the point is: I don't have a login password, so upon > "locking" I am given the opportunity to create one, which has no > persistent f

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:21:38PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: Sadly, even though I am root on the systems involved -- the tweak we really need here is extending screen's builtin lock to support the password stored in .screenrc Clearly I d

Re: Silly question about "lock"

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
"Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> You could differentiate between "idle" locks and explicit locks by >> having "idle" give the lock program a special arg or something. > > Really? How? Will idle accept full-on commands, or just "screen" > commands? It accepts screen com

Re: Silly question about "lock"

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: hey, is there a way to customize the message displayed on the "lock", for example: Whether it was locked by time, or idle? What time it was locked? What HOST it's running on?

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 08:21:38PM -0500, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >>> Sadly, even though I am root on the systems involved -- the tweak we >>> really need here is extending screen's builtin lock to support the >>> password stored in .screenrc >> >> Clearly I don't know what you're talking

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: "Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The question comes up: "if I can get at your uid, why do I need your screen?" In order to observe the output when I run "gpg -d" on an encrypted, confidential file. Simply having my login passw

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
"Dan Mahoney, System Admin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The question comes up: "if I can get at your uid, why do I need your > screen?" In order to observe the output when I run "gpg -d" on an encrypted, confidential file. Simply having my login password would not grant access to GPG encrypted

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I support extending screen's builtin lock to support PAM. +1. I wondered if that was the problem all along. ___ screen-users mailing list screen-users@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/screen-user

Re: backspace and tab broken?

2008-11-13 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pia Mikeal wrote: > Greetings, > > I am not sure if this is a bug in screen or something else, but > screen seems to be a package I can take out of the equation and the > problem goes away. Here is my issue, at the commandline, my virtual > termi

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Micah Cowan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: According to the manpage, screen calls /bin/lock or wha

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: > >> Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: According to the manpage, screen calls /bin/lock or whatnot -- there's no way t

backspace and tab broken?

2008-11-13 Thread Pia Mikeal
Greetings, I am not sure if this is a bug in screen or something else, but screen seems to be a package I can take out of the equation and the problem goes away. Here is my issue, at the commandline, my virtual terminal prints odd diamond shaped characters to the screen when hitting tab or

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008, Trent W. Buck wrote: Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: According to the manpage, screen calls /bin/lock or whatnot -- there's no way through .screenrc to change this (why?)...and yet the output of a locked screen looks significantly

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:48:15AM -0800, Micah Cowan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Trent W. Buck wrote: > > Are there any lurkers on the list that would care to chime in with > > useful examples on how they use LOCKPRG? > > > > A while back, what I wanted was the a

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Micah Cowan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Trent W. Buck wrote: > Are there any lurkers on the list that would care to chime in with > useful examples on how they use LOCKPRG? > > A while back, what I wanted was the ability to blank the screen after > two minutes of inactivity, and then *lock*

Re: Bigger annoyance with locking.

2008-11-13 Thread Trent W. Buck
Micah Cowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: >> According to the manpage, screen calls /bin/lock or whatnot -- there's >> no way through .screenrc to change this (why?)...and yet the output of a >> locked screen looks significantly different from when I use lock alone