Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-17 Thread Fulvio
Jai Dayal wrote: > How about I do cmake instead of autoconf? That way, in theory, one > should be able to do the whole thing regardless if it's windows, > linux, or unix... given that they have cmake installed, of course. > > Any objections? fine with me -

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
How about I do cmake instead of autoconf? That way, in theory, one should be able to do the whole thing regardless if it's windows, linux, or unix... given that they have cmake installed, of course. Any objections? Jai On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Dear Jai, > > I rep

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Dear Jai, I repeatedly asked you to scratch your own itch. I also asked you if some search results would have helped. Both fail to qualify as pretending to know how to solve your problem. Do you think that "please download the latest sources" count as a "please restart your computer" for newly

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
>Because it's not my script. >Because it's not 100% broken. You pretended to know what to do to fix it, thus, you are not responsible for all failed solutions that you bring up. You introduced many failed solutions. >That your claim not to have flamed can easily be proven false and that newly mi

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> How do I donate ? We (Fulvio) do (does) not accept donations. There's some Kickstarter idea that would need to be developed. But nothing is certain on that front. Wikipedia always needs money. I'm sure Fulvio would appreciate if you'd work on creating an Autoconf'ed configuration instead of d

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> Why can't you just admit that your little script is 100% broken? Because it's not my script. Because it's not 100% broken. Because the admission is already in the comment of makefile.conf Because the admission is implied in the many requests you ignored to scratch your own itch and produce so

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
Brilliant. That worked. How do I donate to scid? On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 5:04 PM, f...@libero.it wrote: > >> Yes, I am using LinuxMint, an Ubuntu derivative, but not Ubuntu. You > are right, it's good to clarify that. > > Ok, I git blamed the configure file and "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" is >

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread f...@libero.it
>> Yes, I am using LinuxMint, an Ubuntu derivative, but not Ubuntu. You are >> right, it's good to clarify that. Ok, I git blamed the configure file and "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" is founded automatically from 01-may-2013.Please try to download the latest code: go to http://sourceforge.net/p/s

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
Yes, I am using LinuxMint, an Ubuntu derivative, but not Ubuntu. You are right, it's good to clarify that. Okay, so then install tcl/tk in a separate directory, remove your existing ones, and then try to have scid compile with the new build? I installed tcl/tk using Mint's package manager. It doe

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Adrian Petrescu
It works for me, so it's not *100%* broken, surely... And I'm pretty sure your very first message indicated that you *are* using Ubuntu (or at least something so heavily Ubuntu-derived that the kernel name still has 'Ubuntu' in it). On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Jai Dayal wrote: > " > - Ya'

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
" - Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools [the title]; - Do you people not know how to actually use autotools to avoid this from happening? Seriously, this isn't advanced stuff. - Your makefile is completely inconsistent. - Wow. you all have *no idea* how to write a makefile - This is ridiculous.

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> > I'm stating a fact: Many facts, in fact: - Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools [the title]; - Do you people not know how to actually use autotools to avoid this from happening? Seriously, this isn't advanced stuff. - Your makefile is completely inconsistent. - Wow. you all have *no idea*

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
I'm not flaming anyone. I'm stating a fact: this configure platform you all are using is broken. It allows to specify the location of tcl/tk. I've done that; both using variables passed in, and by manually editing the makefile itself. Neither of these solutions have worked, so now you require edit

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Thank you, Jai Dayal. Now, how would any competent programmer presumably like you would solve this problem? More precisely, here's the relevant bit from the makefile.conf: # TCL_INCLUDE, TCL_LIBRARY, TK_LIBRARY: these are the compiler options #needed for linking Scid with Tcl/Tk. The progra

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
No. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Does > > > TCL_LIBRARY = -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -ltcl8.5 > > work for you, Jayal? > > A simple yes or no would suffice. > > > > -- > October Webinars: Cod

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Does > TCL_LIBRARY = -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -ltcl8.5 work for you, Jayal? A simple yes or no would suffice. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performan

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread f...@libero.it
>>I know in your world, simple "restart the computer" solutions work, but in >>the real world, they rarely work.Oh, right! Have you tried to restart your >>computer? :-) >>Of course, this obvious solution has been tried. As usual, it does not work. >>If you post your Makefile and the full gc

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
"Well, good for you. So have you solved with: TCL_LIBRARY = -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -ltcl8.5" I know in your world, simple "restart the computer" solutions work, but in the real world, they rarely work. Of course, this obvious solution has been tried. As usual, it does not work. On Wed, Oct

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread f...@libero.it
>>You have no idea about what you're talking. Well, good for you. So have you solved with: TCL_LIBRARY = -L/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -ltcl8.5 ? -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
Okay, so then don't call it "configure" if it's not a configure script then; and don't accept the same variables, i.e., --prefix "well, at least for that i think you should blame the inventors of c (Thompson and Ritchie)" No, that's not true, at all. Any competent programmer would know that if yo

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread f...@libero.it
>>SO you're saying that the configure script is not the standard GNU autotools >>offering, but something created independently? Exactly. If you don't believe me you can simply open the configure file with a text editor and see that it's a tcl script >>Your makefile is completely inconsistent.

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> > Wow. you all have *no idea* how to write a makefile > Is that an offer to write one? -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application performance. Explore tips for MPI,

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Wes Freeman
Rather than attack the authors of the makefile, just submit a patch to improve it. This is open source software, I'm sure they would welcome improvements to make cross-platform builds better. I'm sure they'd be willing to return the money you paid for this source code, as well. :P And, in defense

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
SO you're saying that the configure script is not the standard GNU autotools offering, but something created independently? Your makefile is completely inconsistent. For TCL_INCLUDE, you don't specify tcl.h for TCL_LIBRARY, you have to specify the .a/.so file. Wow. you all have *no idea* how to

Re: [Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread f...@libero.it
>>Do you people not know how to actually use autotools to avoid this from >>happening? Seriously, this isn't advanced stuff. I'm not sure i fully understand your question, actually scid do not use autotools. >>How do I fix this? the wrong part is "/usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h"manually edit

[Scid-users] Ya'll have no idea how to use autotools

2013-10-16 Thread Jai Dayal
I get it to configure, and then type make only to get g++ -O3 -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions -std=c++0x -pthread -Wall /usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h -o src/pgnscid.o -c src/pgnscid.cpp g++: fatal error: cannot specify -o with -c, -S or -E with multiple files compilation terminated. make: *** [src/pgnscid.