Re: [Scid-users] Tactics database

2011-08-17 Thread Titus von der Malsburg
Hi Joost! The Scid web site says that donations support the development of Scid. The donate button appears not only on the page about the tactics data base but on all main pages. If donations don't go to the project, the web page should be changed to reflect that or the donate button should be r

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics database

2011-08-17 Thread Joost 't Hart
Hi Titus, For what it is worth it: Based on the French paypal dialog, I sort of expect your donation will be received and reacted upon by Pascal (see cc). Pascal did a lot of work for Scid, but (temporarily?) has left the project alone since quite some time now. Anyway (and as far as I know),

[Scid-users] Tactics database

2011-08-17 Thread Titus von der Malsburg
Hi list! I just donated €20 to get access to the ScidTactics data base as suggested on this page: http://scid.sourceforge.net/findbestmove.html I will be offline for the next two weeks and would love to be able to use the data base during that time. I don't know who's responsible for sending t

[Scid-users] Tactics available

2008-08-06 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, Thanks to contributors, there are 1500 games with tactics at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_done.zip If errors are detected please let me know so I can fix them. Note that Right-clicking on ">>" button (goto end of game) is a shortcut for going to next position.

[Scid-users] Tactics : status of 4th august

2008-08-04 Thread Pascal Georges
Hello everybody, Currently, games : 1 - 1000 : done 1001 - 2000 : done 2001 - 3000 : work in progress 66 % done (Pascal ...) 3001 - 4000 : done 4001 - 5000 : done Next steps (if agreed ): Marcel : 5001 - 6000 Israel : 6001 - 7000 Benigno, will you take in charge 7001 - 8000 ? I will do

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-08-02 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/8/2 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Pascal Georges wrote: > > Hi! > > > I uploaded 2 bases : > > > > http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_done.zip > > http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_todo.zip > > > > The first one contains about 600

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-08-02 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > I uploaded 2 bases : > > http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_done.zip > http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_todo.zip > > The first one contains about 600 annotated games with tactics flags, > which corresponds to the

[Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-31 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, I uploaded 2 bases : http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_done.zip http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/ib_annee_2007_todo.zip The first one contains about 600 annotated games with tactics flags, which corresponds to the first 2000 games analysed of base ib_

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-16 Thread Pascal Georges
> Also the format [%tactics D:6 1.96/4.38] does not look so >> good to me. [%] is used for markers on the board, >> where the information here is related to score / variation >> : the nature of the information is different and should >> use different markers. >> > > AFAIK this is not quite cor

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-16 Thread Alexander Wagner
Hi! [%tactics D:6 1.96/4.38] 20. ... Kh8 21. Qd3 Ne2+ 22. Qxe2 Rxc1 23. Rxc1 Qxa3 24. Qd1 Nc6 25. Ne4 Nxe5 26. dxe5 $18 >>> This is ok to me, but I'd like to be sure of the definitive UI >>> to use (that is be sure that there is no extra info to add). >> >> >> Ok. Maybe also the

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-16 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/16 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges wrote: > > Hi! > > [%tactics D:6 1.96/4.38] 20. ... Kh8 21. Qd3 Ne2+ 22. Qxe2 Rxc1 >>23. Rxc1 Qxa3 24. Qd1 Nc6 25. Ne4 >>Nxe5 26. dxe5 $18 >> >> >> This is ok to me, but I'd like to be sure of the definitive UI to use >

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-16 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > [%tactics D:6 1.96/4.38] 20. ... Kh8 21. Qd3 Ne2+ 22. Qxe2 Rxc1 > 23. Rxc1 Qxa3 24. Qd1 Nc6 25. Ne4 > Nxe5 26. dxe5 $18 > > > This is ok to me, but I'd like to be sure of the definitive UI to use > (that is be sure that there is no extra info to add).

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-15 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/15 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [%tactics D:6 1.96/4.38] 20. ... Kh8 21. Qd3 Ne2+ 22. Qxe2 Rxc1 23. Rxc1 > Qxa3 24. Qd1 Nc6 25. Ne4 > Nxe5 26. dxe5 $18 > This is ok to me, but I'd like to be sure of the definitive UI to use (that is be sure that there is no extra info to add)

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-15 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, I uploaded about 100 positions with tactics flagged at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/download/unstable/tactics.zip If someone is interested in checking errors and value of exercises. They mainly seem fine to me. Pascal - T

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-15 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! >> Also, why not use human-readable string? Let's say: >> D Tactics (difficulty 6) 20... Kh8! 26. dxe5 +/- >> > This is easy to switch to any format, but first I need to > know what kind of information should be kept and what will > be the definitive UI. T

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-14 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, poniedziałek, 14 lipca 2008: >There is no need to add any feature to extract tactical positions : it is >sufficient to use the header search menu, then copy the games in a base. >I will share a base with such tactics, but I don't know what kind of games >should be computed. For n

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-14 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/14 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> Sure, but getting as many good positions as possible is nice, as the > >> search is > >> slow anyway. > >I agree but the few positions I got are interesting and challenging > enough. > >So it is highly feasible to get a 1000 games base, which would

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-14 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, poniedziałek, 14 lipca 2008: >Yes, this it the problem of obvious move detection. But I think I found a >solution, using internal engine : >- If the move is found at all depths from 1 to 3, then it is discarded as an >obvious move >- Then I run the internal analyzing engine for var

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-14 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/14 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, poniedziałek, 14 lipca 2008: > > >What you describe here is pretty close to what is currently done by the > code > >I wrote. If you look at comments (not necessarily code) of procedure > >markExercise, you will see the logic is pretty

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, poniedziałek, 14 lipca 2008: >What you describe here is pretty close to what is currently done by the code >I wrote. If you look at comments (not necessarily code) of procedure >markExercise, you will see the logic is pretty the same. But there is still >a problem with depth limit

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/13 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: > > >Could you detail the algorithm to get the cases where : > >- the opponent did not blunder > >- there is some significant move to find > >- the position is not already scored clearly for one side (already

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: >Could you detail the algorithm to get the cases where : >- the opponent did not blunder >- there is some significant move to find >- the position is not already scored clearly for one side (already won game) Sure, here is simple version: Analyze positio

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/13 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: > > >> I am not sure I understand. So, in the second case tacitcs will be > >> ignored? > >Yes. > Isn't it possible to still add it? It seems a waste of resources to miss > such > tactics - are there any rea

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: >> I am not sure I understand. So, in the second case tacitcs will be >> ignored? >Yes. Isn't it possible to still add it? It seems a waste of resources to miss such tactics - are there any reasons for skipping it? -- Michal Rudolf --

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/13 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: > > >> So, this won't find tactics which actually happened in the game and > >> without blunder on opponents part? > >Yes, and it is the only interesting case. If there is a winning move, > either > > > >- a

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: >> So, this won't find tactics which actually happened in the game and >> without blunder on opponents part? >Yes, and it is the only interesting case. If there is a winning move, either > >- a blunder was made; >- the position drifted to a lost one, whic

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/13 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >> One more question: what does it mean: from 1.91 to 4.38? > >The opponent (black here) should have played a move with a score of 1.91, > >but he played something at 4.38, hence the expected move to find for white > >should be at this latest value

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, niedziela, 13 lipca 2008: >> I am not sure how tactical exercise was determined, but I wouldn't mark >> anything clearly losing (let's say <-1) as tactical exercise. As I wrote >> before, probably only moves leading to serious advantage give reasonable >> quality. >There is only o

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-13 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/12 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, sobota, 12 lipca 2008: > >I switched to "from/to" in CVS. So don't use previous code (with sc/psc), > or > >"Find best move" will not find next tactical position. > > Look at following game: > 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nc6

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, sobota, 12 lipca 2008: >I switched to "from/to" in CVS. So don't use previous code (with sc/psc), or >"Find best move" will not find next tactical position. Look at following game: 1. e4 c5 2. c3 d5 3. exd5 Qxd5 4. d4 Nc6 5. Nf3 Bg4 6. Be2 cxd4 7. cxd4 e6 8. Nc3 Bb4 9. a3 Bxc3+ 1

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Georges
> > > Also I'd suggest to offer some translation in "plain text" >> for the user, e.g. in the notification area of scid. The >> format is a bit complex IMHO. At least if a human should >> read it. For human usage I'd e.g. find it much more >> intuitive if the score is in a "from-to" format, somethi

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > So I added an extra option in Annotation window that will append > special comments and a flag to a game if some tactics are met : > "d${depth}sc${score}psc$prevscore my_comment". > For example "d5sc3.4psc1.2" means that the sc

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > So I added an extra option in Annotation window that will append special > comments and a flag to a game if some tactics are met : > "d${depth}sc${score}psc$prevscore my_comment". > For example "d5sc3.4psc1.2" means that the score went from 1.2 to > 3.4, so

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/12 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is it possible to just perform a search on selected games to find only > tactical exercises? My idea will be to remove previous moves, leaving only > current position and solution (plus perhaps original moves). > It is sufficient to look for Tactical

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/12 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges wrote: > > Hi! > > So I added an extra option in Annotation window that will append special >> comments and a flag to a game if some tactics are met : >> "d${depth}sc${score}psc$prevscore my_comment". >> For example "d5sc3.4

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, sobota, 12 lipca 2008: >I commited in CVS the code for : >- tactics flagging (see annotation by engine). Only works for UCI engines. >- "find best move" menu command added under Play->training. It will go to >next flagged tactical position in game or base. As the solution is unique

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Georges
I commited in CVS the code for : - tactics flagging (see annotation by engine). Only works for UCI engines. - "find best move" menu command added under Play->training. It will go to next flagged tactical position in game or base. As the solution is unique, the correctness of the solution is checked

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, sobota, 12 lipca 2008: >It is not in CVS yet. I will put it today anyway, after some tests. So far >it seems promising, but I have difficulties using an engine to check whether >a solution is easy or not : if I limit depth, I may encounter strange scores >due to pending re-capture

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/12 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, sobota, 12 lipca 2008: > > >> Probably the most improvements can be done with 4. - removing all the > >> obvious > >> tactics (recapturing piece, moving king from check when ahead in > material) > >> can help. > >Thanks for those hint

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, sobota, 12 lipca 2008: >> Probably the most improvements can be done with 4. - removing all the >> obvious >> tactics (recapturing piece, moving king from check when ahead in material) >> can help. >Thanks for those hints, I implemented them. Is it in CVS? How can I test it? --

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-12 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/7/11 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, piątek, 11 lipca 2008: > > >So, there is a way to generate tactical exercises, but this takes a lot of > >CPU time, and those exercises should be manually checked (removing the > >Tactics flag if they don't deserve it). Then a way to

Re: [Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-11 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, piątek, 11 lipca 2008: >So, there is a way to generate tactical exercises, but this takes a lot of >CPU time, and those exercises should be manually checked (removing the >Tactics flag if they don't deserve it). Then a way to display those >exercises must be defined. I wrote a sep

[Scid-users] Tactics

2008-07-11 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, There some good web sites with tactical exercises, for example http://chess.emrald.net/ and http://chesstempo.com/ . I prefer the later because the user interface is better and there is no clock pressure (in standard mode). But I also prefer Scid's interface. So I added an extra option in Anno