Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-04-08 Thread Gerd Lorscheid
problem. So it remains that the top games list should contain more infos. Gerd -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Alexander Wagner [mailto:a.wag...@physik.uni-wuerzburg.de] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 8. April 2009 20:10 An: Gerd Lorscheid Cc: 'Scid' Betreff: Re: [Scid-users]

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-04-08 Thread Christopher D. Walborn
On Apr 8, 2009, at 2:09 PM, Alexander Wagner wrote: Gerd Lorscheid wrote: I have converted my database from Chessbase format through PGN to SI3. Chessbase displays standard annotations (Chess-Informant symbols) in PGN as something like "$12". When converting to si3 these comments are not con

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-04-08 Thread Alexander Wagner
Gerd Lorscheid wrote: Hi! [...] > What I do not see in the top game window is which of these > games are commented and who created the comments. Right. And I also would add that currently not even in the browse window all data shows up. > OK, I replay games from top players, but there may be an

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-04-08 Thread Pascal Georges
2009/4/8 Gerd Lorscheid [...] When I want to add an question mark to a move. I have to open the annotation > window. This creates for unknown reason 100% CPU load on one processor. > This > is a bug > Here it is : bind $w "recordWinSize $w; setWinSize $w" Connoisseurs will be appreciate the

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-04-08 Thread Gerd Lorscheid
Hello, I just follow this old thread to describe some of my experiences. Some points may not be valid, because I don't know the product good enough... My goal is still to annotate a game or to analyze a variation. So I open my reference database in tree mode, open from there the window wi

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> The best wikis I have evaluated (not hosted elsewhere and free and/or open > source) use wiki markup. I will provide some proofreading, including for mark-up. Mark-up hasstles should be kept to admin or at least superuser anyway. Or else we will encounter consistency problems. --

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Lott
Actually, the name will come first because I plan to set this up on a virtual server, but that's a minor point. More below. On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Alexander Wagner wrote: >> 2) Where the wiki can shine, I think, is in providing a >> place where a) enthusiasts can contribute and b) thin

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Alexander Wagner
Chris Lott wrote: Hi! > 1) I communicated with Pascal and he indicated that > scid-chess.org sounded like the best fit to him. So I plan > to purchase and set that up. Set the wiki up first to get people on board, name is second order. (IMHO) > 2) Where the wiki can shine, I think, is in provid

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > I fear that it will be hard to separate automagically description of a > functionality with everything else. Automatically, yes. But I think if there is a section where the help itself is target of the work, I fancy most users will get it right where to add text. >

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Chris Lott
I'm excited about the prospect of the wiki just because what I think Scid really needs is a place to go for all the simple questions (such as those I pose to the list) and a bunch of how-to and quick guide style information. This discussion is becoming rapidly complex-- like chess. And like chess

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> I do not really get the difference you make here. Wiki as > means of discussion doesn't work, IMHO, and points that come > up in discussion as they are not clear in the help (or do > not even exist there) should make it into the docs. Maybe I > see to close a relation. I'll leave this point to th

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! >> How should the Wiki interact with the F1-help? > > The overall principle should be that the help file is both > official, permanent and for every user. Agree. > So the wiki is for new, fleeting, and user-case related > information. I do not really get the differ

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Pascal Georges
scid.sourceforge.net is and remains the official site, with links to other relevant site(s). The wikis I tried, when using simple data structures (even simple files), were really limited regarding - users management - editing - ease of use. I don't know pmwiki but hope it does not have those draw

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> Scid's site must remain at Sourceforge. Only Wiki should be hosted outside. SF provide means to host the site outside its own site. There seems to need only a redirection adjustment. SF site could host the wiki too, since it's flat files : pmwiki is just a tool with php scripts, really. In fa

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> How should the Wiki interact with the F1-help? The overall principle should be that the help file is both official, permanent and for every user. So the wiki is for new, fleeting, and user-case related information. > I could imagine that in a first step the current help gets imported into the

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Alexander Wagner
pgeorges wrote: Hi! > Alexander Wagner a écrit : >> The help files are a problem indeed. However, work is here in progress >> as well. I think it would also be VERY valuable if we could get our >> users involved here. > > What about a wiki ? I tried to set one up at sourceforge but did not ge

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-21 Thread Pascal Georges
2009/3/21 Benoit St-Pierre > I do too, but for organizations. That is, scid-chess.org should > eventually replace scid.sourceforge.org. > > If it's an informational resource, outside the official project, then > .info seems more precise. > > I am all in favor for leaving Scid's site outside of S

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I do too, but for organizations. That is, scid-chess.org should eventually replace scid.sourceforge.org. If it's an informational resource, outside the official project, then .info seems more precise. I am all in favor for leaving Scid's site outside of SF. -

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Pascal Georges
2009/3/20 Benoit St-Pierre > > scid-chess.info > scid-chess.org > scid.chess I like .org domain. Don't know why, but it sounds better than others. Pascal -- Apps built with the Adobe(R) Flex(R) framework and Flex Build

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Pascal Georges
2009/3/20 Chris Lott > > If Pascal thinks it's a good idea, I can get scidwiki.com (or some > other domain name) setup and provide access to whoever wants to > admin... or we can do whatever makes more sense for the project if > there is another alternative. My position : - Set up something o

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Chris Lott
I'm good with something like scid-chess.info too... depends on 1) how broad we want the title to be and 2) what Pascal sees as working best with his plans! scid-chess.info and .org scidwiki.info and .org scid-wiki.info and .org scid-docs.info and .org etc are available. c On Fri, Mar 20, 2009

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
So pmwiki it is ! If the domain name is accessible, I would try to get something like scid-chess.info scid-chess.org scid.chess (Too bad there is no .chess !) My criteria would be to tell that it's chess related and it's not a commerce. And you could add a subdomain : wiki.scid-chess.info Bu

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Chris Lott
I definitely prefer the lesser administrative headaches with pmWiki compared to MediaWiki, though I've used both. I've found it pretty simply to move whole pmwiki installations (I have a couple of wikifarms at the university I work for). I've used MoinMoin but since I have negligible Python skills

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Good ! 1. I personnaly like pmwiki. It's simple, fast, and may be enough for the little wiki we would like to build. I would certainly consider it, since all resides on flat files : http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/PmWiki/FlatFileAdvantages Maybe flat files are the way to go if we want the site web

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Chris Lott
I'd be happy to help with this-- I've got a server with extra bandwidth and would kick in a domain name too... scidwiki.com perhaps? The main questions for me would be if there is one wiki engine that is better than the others. I can administer/maintain it and have used a few in he past. pmWiki is

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
1. There are free solutions, for instance on-wiki.net but they rely on ads and that might not be the best solution. But it's a start. 2. If it's not too much of a hasstle, and not too much bandwidth, I could try to use my free db on my site. I am not sure about the tools to use. I will think

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Pascal Georges
So anybody for setting up a wiki ? I tried to set at Sourceforge and it is not the best solution : - not nice - very slow - admin burden. Pascal 2009/3/20 Benoit St-Pierre > A wiki would make an excellent complement to the help file. Here is a > nice example : > > http://wiki.tcl.tk/ > > It w

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-20 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
A wiki would make an excellent complement to the help file. Here is a nice example : http://wiki.tcl.tk/ It would alleviate the burden of writing everything to a tcl file. It can build FAQ, user cases, tutorials, tricks, resources, etc. In fact, all the site can be maintained with a wiki. If

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-19 Thread pgeorges
Alexander Wagner a écrit : > The help files are a problem indeed. However, work is here in progress > as well. I think it would also be VERY valuable if we could get our > users involved here. What about a wiki ? I tried to set one up at sourceforge but did not get far due to lack of time. A w

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-19 Thread Alexander Wagner
Gerd Lorscheid wrote: Hello Gerd! > I just found what I need for my usecase. If I open my reference database as > tree I can open the "Show best games list" through a small button at the > bottom. I think I pointed out this way to do it in my first mail. > Then I can switch back to my anaysis g

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-19 Thread Gerd Lorscheid
I just found what I need for my usecase. If I open my reference database as tree I can open the "Show best games list" through a small button at the bottom. Then I can switch back to my anaysis game in a different database, move pieces, access and merge games through the top game window. I am using

Re: [Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-17 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> Why I am losing my time replying this ? Because you're the only one to know the code proficiently enough to make more than educated guesses. So you have to deal with people that does not. And sometimes you dismiss stuff that does not interest in a way that attracts these kinds of replies. Whe

[Scid-users] Re : Scid usability issues

2009-03-17 Thread Pascal Georges
2009/3/17, Joost 't Hart : > Pascal Georges wrote: >> >> >> 2009/3/16 Alexander Wagner > > >> >> Joost 't Hart wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> >> Ah?! I admit, that I see your point, but you lost me >> >> logic-wise here. If I change the base the boar