Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-20 Thread R.
I'm glad we have Joao, How about thinking about the structure, the divisions so that developers jump into their favorite thing. I'm thinking: -Analysis -GUI -Database -Pluguins: FICS, TWC? -Documentation (webpage). I would like to see the possibility to analyze games backwards, starting from

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-20 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/20/2013 12:28 AM, Steve A wrote: > Joao wrote > >> Can I make one last ditch attempt to organize a conference call/IRC session, >> anything where we can have a forum of open discussion between the main >> parties? >> >> Again, I don't mind organizing it. > Fulvio and I email each other. So

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-20 Thread Steve A
Joao wrote > Can I make one last ditch attempt to organize a conference call/IRC session, > anything where we can have a forum of open discussion between the main > parties? > > Again, I don't mind organizing it. Fulvio and I email each other. So there is no problem with communication between u

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 09:46:19PM +0800, John wrote: > On 19/03/13 21:42, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > > And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: should we say > > that the proposal was _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project? > > > > > No, but what does it matter? Has ethics gone out th

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Philipp Enoeckl
Am 2013-03-19 21:37, schrieb Lothar Weimer: > Hello all, > > I'm another SCID user. My opinion is: > > +1 on a merge with Steven as Lead. > +1 on Joao's proposals. > > -- > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make you

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Lothar Weimer
Hello all, I'm another SCID user. My opinion is: +1 on a merge with Steven as Lead. +1 on Joao's proposals. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 09:14 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> Just stating the facts. He's MIA only to resurface and deliver a bunch of >> empty promises. > Predicting judgements are not facts. > > Unless you can expound yourcommentyou are justobfuscating the issuebeyond what it needs to be. ---

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> Just stating the facts. He's MIA only to resurface and deliver a bunch of > empty promises. Predicting judgements are not facts. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Dow

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 08:27 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Piling on Fulvio is not the way to pursue a community effort: > >> A healthy community should rarely need a vote. Just stating the facts. He's MIA only to resurface and deliver a bunch of empty promises.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Piling on Fulvio is not the way to pursue a community effort: > A healthy community should rarely need a vote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1 -- Everyone hates slow websit

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 12:02 AM, John wrote: > On 16/03/13 02:09, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> Please stop filibustering. > I think you don't even know what filibustering is. > > The Roman senators did it in the ays of the Republic. If a senator > didn't want some motion carried, all he needed to do was talk unt

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/18/2013 10:05 PM, Jai Dayal wrote: > Based on principle, I'd follow Fulvio. It seems that people are > trying to push him out of the project he created. That's pretty > unacceptable, even if you all came from 3rd tier universities. > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:01 AM, John

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 06:51 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> No, but what does it matter? > It matters insofar as the only reason provided to say that it's not > _exactly_ a rebranding effort *because* the scidvspc would remain > open. > > If this argument is unimportant, the whole argument falls apart. > > ---

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
don't mind organizing it. > > J > > -Original Message- > From: Philipp Enoeckl [mailto:philipp.enoe...@gmail.com] > Sent: 19 March 2013 10:08 > To: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Project merge > > > Am 2013-03-19 08:06, schri

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> No, but what does it matter? It matters insofar as the only reason provided to say that it's not _exactly_ a rebranding effort *because* the scidvspc would remain open. If this argument is unimportant, the whole argument falls apart.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 19/03/13 21:42, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: should we say > that the proposal was _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project? > > No, but what does it matter? -- Santa

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> The proposal was not _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project, but rather to use it as the base for the new SCID. Whether the current scidvspc project remains depends on Steven and Sourceforce, but I guess Steven will soon stop work on it. And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: s

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
+1 on Joao's proposals. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar_

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin Taylor
+1 on a merge with Steven as Lead. Lets get this done and make SCID an active project again. --Kevin Taylor Twitter: @ktaylor *All that counts in life is intention.* - Andrea Bocelli -- Eve

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Since we're into the Australian elections, here's another analogy: *** When psychologists talk about whether someone is in control of their situation, they talk about _agency_. A person with high agency controls their destiny. A person with low agency is at the mercy of others for their situati

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning)
t: 19 March 2013 10:08 To: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Project merge Am 2013-03-19 08:06, schrieb Steve A: > Fulvio hasn't really looked at my project as far as i can tell, and i > get the impression he is not interested. > > So perhaps we can clos

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Philipp Enoeckl
Am 2013-03-19 08:06, schrieb Steve A: > Fulvio hasn't really looked at my project as far as i can tell, and i > get the impression he is not interested. > > So perhaps we can close this thread. Well, i am just a user, but it makes me really sad and frustated, there apparently will be no merge. I

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 19/03/13 14:58, Chris Bannister wrote: > You can't just change the name of the scidvspc project to scid and think > that it's OK. They are two separate projects. It's fine to merge any > changes in the scidvspc project into the scid project and then carry on > development within the scid project

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Steve A
Fulvio hasn't really looked at my project as far as i can tell, and i get the impression he is not interested. So perhaps we can close this thread. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 16/03/13 08:47, Wes Freeman wrote: > I prefer the single window scid, and use it in linux and mac. Does scid > vs pc work in linux easily? Is there any way to make it run in a single > window, like the old scid? I actually have scid vs mac installed, but > don't use it because I didn't like the

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 16/03/13 02:09, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Please stop filibustering. I think you don't even know what filibustering is. The Roman senators did it in the ays of the Republic. If a senator didn't want some motion carried, all he needed to do was talk until sundown. The didn't have questions such

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:12:41AM -0400, Jai Dayal wrote: > I'm just confused as to what the big deal is? > > The original scid is (apparently.. I don't know this for sure) not well > maintained because the original developer has better things to do. > > Someone else has made a fork that's more

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 16/03/13 01:26, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Here's a silly idea for release names that I got while cleaning up the > kitchen: > > Code names that associate World Champions' names with the main developer's > era. You're right. Silly. Can anyone but the keenest aficionado keep track of Apple's nam

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 16/03/13 03:19, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> one cannot have a community of developers work in a single project in two >> channels. > This is not ideal, of course. But we're not in an ideal situation. > And what I'm*proposing* right now, to Fulvio and Steven, takes into > accounts the facts. Now,

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 15/03/13 18:17, Henk van Lingen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:01:34AM +0100, Fulvio wrote: > >> - if the merge is technically too complicated, having both live >> separated is good. >> - deleting a free project without reason is bad. > > Hi Fulvio, > > Having various almost the same projec

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 19/03/13 13:05, Jai Dayal wrote: > Based on principle, I'd follow Fulvio. It seems that people are trying > to push him out of the project he created. That's pretty unacceptable, > even if you all came from 3rd tier universities. No, Shane started it. There was some disputation when Shane qui

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Jai Dayal
Why was I left off of therrr post? On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:46 AM, John wrote: > On 15/03/13 00:40, Fulvio wrote: > > I hate to be harsh, but why people talk about thing they don't > > understand and try to make me say thing i never thought about? > > As i already said very clearly, impossible

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 15/03/13 00:40, Fulvio wrote: > I hate to be harsh, but why people talk about thing they don't > understand and try to make me say thing i never thought about? > As i already said very clearly, impossible to misunderstand: > - i'm very much in favor of having Steve on board and furthermore i > w

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Jai Dayal
Based on principle, I'd follow Fulvio. It seems that people are trying to push him out of the project he created. That's pretty unacceptable, even if you all came from 3rd tier universities. On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:01 AM, John wrote: > On 14/03/13 22:34, Fulvio wrote: > > - He added a few fe

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 14/03/13 22:34, Fulvio wrote: > - He added a few features like Engine Chess Tournaments but didn't send > back to scid his code (this is understandable for big features, but if > you find a bug or do a small improvement like "Clickable Variation > Arrows" or "Tri-coloured Tree Bar-Graphs" you sh

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 14/03/13 18:05, Fulvio wrote: > I will release a Scid v.4.4 with the current git code and eventually the > fixes for bugs and crashes that will be reported. > I will release a Scid v.4.5 with a new gamelist window > I will release a Scid v.4.6 integrating your engine tournament feature > I have

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 14/03/13 01:15, Grzegorz Wierzchowski wrote: > SCID must be build-able using tools available in Debian! There is no difference in the tools required. > > BTW: I'm using scid on Kubuntu sience over year and did not experience even > single crash. > I don't recall a crash in either, but just try

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 13/03/13 18:18, Fulvio wrote: > I understand you don't have time for scid, but just let it be. > Free software is about freedom, and even if it became a mess, people > complains or argue, they should have the freedom to choose. > Now they can choose between scid or scidvspc, after they're only o

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Jai Dayal
I'm just confused as to what the big deal is? The original scid is (apparently.. I don't know this for sure) not well maintained because the original developer has better things to do. Someone else has made a fork that's more actively developed and maintained, and now there's discussion to make S

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Ben St-Pierre
There also might be a need to recall this: > Let me clear again - Alex contacted me asking how i would merge and manage > the project. I stated to him what i have stated in this thread. He said to me > "go" and gave me Project admin rights - but now he has changed his tune. So > for the time be

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread John
On 14/03/13 01:15, Grzegorz Wierzchowski wrote: > Could anybody clearly point out differences between scid and scidvspc and > weather the last is being tested against Linux. > vsPC sounds little like "for Windows". > I'm using scid on Linux only and don't want it to stop working after merge or > be

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/18/2013 05:03 PM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> I wasn't [selling anything]. I believe in what I say. > Advocating, then. > You will lose this argument. How? >> Perhaps the idea of Steven taking over the project would really seem >> horrifying if scid had had any health in it. > The "horrifying"

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-18 Thread Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning)
Guys, I feel we're digressing again. Lets keep the focus on the main thing: (my quote but this how I feel about the project since it began back in the day) "To create, maintain and develop the best open source community Chess Database tool in the world!" If we can somehow agre

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-17 Thread Steve A
Alan - haha. Ben wrote > This needs to be addressed: > > The sortcache code is great and credits go to Gerd Well , i am wrong for calling it a cache. It is a index array that allows sorting of the filter. Yes - it is a great feature. It dropped my jaw when i saw it too. But after several chang

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-17 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/17/2013 01:35 PM, Steve A wrote: [... snip ...] > Fulvio is all talking about a new team, but bug reports and patches to > this mailing list have been consistently ignored by Fulvio and Alex > for ages. I have taken the fixes and already applied them. Now he asks > me to come back to the

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-17 Thread Ben St-Pierre
This needs to be addressed: > The sortcache code is great and credits go to Gerd who wrote the most part of it (i just added multi-threading; i hope i gave him the right credits in the commit log). (...) I remember that the first time i tried the code i thought: if Chessbase will found this they

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-17 Thread Steve A
Fulvio wrote: >> Sorry, I'm not sure I understand correctly: >> are you saying that you are against letting new developers work on scid? Steven wrote: >No.. It's free software and people are all welcome to work on it. >But as far a making a quality software release, i'm not sure they will >be very

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 03:34:28PM +0100, Fulvio wrote: > - Four years ago Steven started is fork of Scid (no problem with this) > and after that he taked all the code he liked from scid mainline (no > problem with this, i don't know if he give credit back, but scid files > are unfortunately mis

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 06:43:00PM -0700, Alan Whiteman wrote: > > I am surprised. But can you really trust a top-posting lurcher? I don't > think so. Bottom posting without trimming is just as bad! At least you don't have to scroll down hundreds of lines to just see two sentences. SCNR -- "I

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 03:19:08PM -0400, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > For now, Scid Capa has no docking mode. Scid Lasker would be there to [...] > If Scid Alekhine is to become community based, I don't think it Huh? Please not more names, it's confusing enough as it is. -- "If you're not careful

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/15/2013 05:42 PM, Nils R Grotnes wrote: > > But I think if we were to ask other readers of this list if anything > > I've said thus far could be construed as filibustering, I would *really* > > be surprised if just one agreed with you. > > I do agree with him. In my opinion, your posts has be

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Wes Freeman
I haven't reviewed all of the posts above. I just wanted to chime in to comment/ask: I prefer the single window scid, and use it in linux and mac. Does scid vs pc work in linux easily? Is there any way to make it run in a single window, like the old scid? I actually have scid vs mac installed, but

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Nils R Grotnes
> But I think if we were to ask other readers of this list if anything > I've said thus far could be construed as filibustering, I would *really* > be surprised if just one agreed with you. I do agree with him. In my opinion, your posts has been among the least constructive, most dismissive of the

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Whiteman
Please see my response between the lines below: On 03/15/2013 02:50 PM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Alan, > > So far, there are 70 comments. > > You made 9 comments. > > The first sells Scidvspc: > >> Scidvspc is a fork of scid with many improvements. It is also actively >> maintained. This is a ver

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/15/2013 12:19 PM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Alan, > > I've just sent you a private email to settle personal matters. Here's > what I'm willing to address publicly: > >> one cannot have a community of developers work in a single project in two >> channels. > This is not ideal, of course. But w

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Steve A
> i just looked at scidvspc code yesterday after a very long time and i must > say that i'm a cautiously optimistic: a proper merge doesn't seems so > impossible to me). Here's an idea - why dont you actually have a good hard look at my project and the improvements i have written, then continue th

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Alan, I've just sent you a private email to settle personal matters. Here's what I'm willing to address publicly: > one cannot have a community of developers work in a single project in two > channels. This is not ideal, of course. But we're not in an ideal situation. And what I'm *proposing*

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Mario Lacunza
I agree with Alan... anyways if something is missing can be ported to the merged version. But I think we need to keep one version, one effort. Saludos / Best regards Mario Lacunza Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com Personal Website:: http://www.lacunza.biz/ OpenOffice.org Perú:: http://openoffice-peru.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/15/2013 11:09 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Alan, > > Please stop filibustering. > > Ben, I am *NOT* filibustering! I'm disagreeing with your point of view. Are you the only one entitled to an opinion in this discussion? If so, take your arguments to a private IRC channel and out of the publ

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Alan, Please stop filibustering. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar _

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/15/2013 10:26 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > I just replied to a message by Alan on another list; > > So now we areback to square one. > >> Steveand Fulvio are scid admins but no merge will be performed.Because this >> squabblehas failed to resolve what should have been an important milestone >

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Ben St-Pierre
I just replied to a message by Alan on another list; So now we areback to square one. > Steveand Fulvio are scid admins but no merge will be performed.Because this > squabblehas failed to resolve what should have been an important milestone > for the project, I think, for the most part, scid wi

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Fulvio
Henk van Lingen wrote: > Several people on this list already asked what you mean by 'deleting > the project'. There are lots of free software projects where version > Y is a complete rewrite of version X. What's the problem with freezing > scid 4.3, let the source-tree exist, and start with 4.9 wit

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Fulvio
Steve A wrote: > There is also the filter cache feature which he worked on with Gerd. > It has bugs, has had bugs for a long time, and Gerd has now abandoned > Scid development (he told me). I also don't like an aspect of it's > design, so i propose not to adopt this feature. > If you mean the c

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Sorry for the typos. Cordonnier mal chaussé... Perhaps I should clarify this: > I believe that's where we should discuss. What I mean is that the discussion is now turning into the **agreement** and **commitment** phase. We need to have an summary statement of what's happening and what's coming

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Kevin Taylor
I would like to contribute to the development of SCID. I have been an avid user for years and am an experienced developer. Can we all come together to move SCID from being an autocracy (this is its history) to being a community effort? As SCID fans, we will all be better off and a strong community

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> I think this thread is evidence that there is a strong desire from the user > base to revive the development of scid, and that there are people who are > interested to help out. Count me among those. I guess it is also > uncontroversial that having a larger development community can only benef

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Steve A
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:18 AM, Mario Lacunza wrote: > El 14/03/13 11:13, Alan Whiteman escribió: >> The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is >> understandable since years of his own efforts are being set aside. Of >> course, his contributions will still live in the dev branche

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Aljoscha Lautenbach
Hi, I think this thread is evidence that there is a strong desire from the user base to revive the development of scid, and that there are people who are interested to help out. Count me among those. I guess it is also uncontroversial that having a larger development community can only benefit the

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread News
Alan, I agree with you and therefore took my retirement. Alan Whiteman wrote: >On 03/14/2013 09:18 AM, Mario Lacunza wrote: >> El 14/03/13 11:13, Alan Whiteman escribió: >>> The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is >>> understandable since years of his own efforts are being se

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Detlef Steuer
> > However, it's seems that i'm not able to explain myselft: i'm not > challenging your interface design. If someone would have proposed the > other way around, delete scidvspc code and replace it with scid code, i > would have been equally upset. > Many people today use free software, like Li

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Steve A
Alex wrote: > Just if someone would be so kind to remove me from the projects members list, > sf does not allow me to do this myself. See you Alex. Thanks for your input. Steve -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Henk van Lingen
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:01:34AM +0100, Fulvio wrote: > - if the merge is technically too complicated, having both live > separated is good. > - deleting a free project without reason is bad. Hi Fulvio, Having various almost the same projects (scid, scidvspc, scidb, ...) is bad. Users don't u

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Fulvio
Steve A wrote: > Fulvio - you are a great technical coder - the best here, and Scid > would still be a slow clunker without you - but your project is filled > with bugs, and you don't have a good a clue about making a good interface :) > As is obvious from most everyones response here except yours,

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning)
plewe [mailto:till.pl...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 March 2013 08:46 To: Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Project merge On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning) wrote: > Good Morning All, > > I'd like to contribute if I may.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread till plewe
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning) wrote: > Good Morning All, > > I'd like to contribute if I may. Thus far from what I've seen on the various > threads everyone is in favour of the merge (yes there are some "challenges", > but overall). > > What

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning)
ssage- From: Steve A [mailto:stevena...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 March 2013 07:05 To: Fulvio; Scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Project merge Fulvio wrote > If you want to merge the two projects the only plan is to take one feature > at the time, check the diffs and wr

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Steve A
Fulvio wrote > If you want to merge the two projects the only plan is to take one feature > at the time, check the diffs and write patches for the current scid code. Thanks for the olive branch Fulvio. I realise it must be hard to face having some of your privilidges/code removed. But as the only

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-15 Thread Gregor Cramer
I welcome the idea to merge the projects. Scid vs. PC is the bug-fixed and user-friendly version in the spirit of Shane Hudson (the initial creator of Scid). Re-implementing the docked mode is a good idea - I think that merging Scid's code for the docked mode into the code of Scid vs. PC is hard

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/14/2013 09:40 AM, Fulvio wrote: > Alan Whiteman wrote: >> I think most people, including project lead Alex, are very much in favor >> of having Steve on board and have scidvspc merge into scid. The only >> person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is understandable since >> years of his

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. If this is formulated in the spirit of a rational inquiry, this could be considered as an ad populum. And it would be false, as I'm not happy either. If this is formulated in the spirit of a political vote, it is irrelevant, as the die have a

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Fulvio
Alan Whiteman wrote: > I think most people, including project lead Alex, are very much in favor > of having Steve on board and have scidvspc merge into scid. The only > person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is understandable since > years of his own efforts are being set aside. Of cour

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Mario Lacunza
Hi Alan thats exactly what I want to said... off course any contribution should be added if its useful for the project. And like you said, the nexts decisions: 1. whats better for the project? 2. whats better for the users? Saludos / Best regards Mario Lacunza Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com Person

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/14/2013 09:18 AM, Mario Lacunza wrote: > El 14/03/13 11:13, Alan Whiteman escribió: >> The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is >> understandable since years of his own efforts are being set aside. Of >> course, his contributions will still live in the dev branches and he >

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/14/2013 09:18 AM, Mario Lacunza wrote: > El 14/03/13 11:13, Alan Whiteman escribió: >> The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is >> understandable since years of his own efforts are being set aside. Of >> course, his contributions will still live in the dev branches and he >

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Mario Lacunza
El 14/03/13 11:13, Alan Whiteman escribió: > The only person not too happy about this is Fulvio. This is > understandable since years of his own efforts are being set aside. Of > course, his contributions will still live in the dev branches and he > can continue to add to the current code or the

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/14/2013 08:09 AM, Henk van Lingen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:56:28AM -0700, Alan Whiteman wrote: >> >> >> Alan, > > could you please stop posting in html? > > On the subject, I'm also using scid and lurking on this list for 5 years. > > I like the docking feature but I als

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Henk van Lingen
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 07:56:28AM -0700, Alan Whiteman wrote: > > > http://henk.vanlingen.net/ | | v_/_ http://www.tuxtown.net/netiquette/ | + Using Outlook ? -> http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ + --

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Mario Lacunza
Yes I saw it, but there where you read "delete the actual code"?? It will be available in the dev branch still if you want to add more features to it and/or create a fork with it. Saludos / Best regards Mario Lacunza Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com Personal Website:: http://www.lacunza.biz/ OpenOff

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Fulvio
Mario Lacunza wrote: > Hi, > > My answers between lines > > Saludos / Best regards > > Mario Lacunza > Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com > Personal Website:: http://www.lacunza.biz/ > OpenOffice.org Perú:: http://openoffice-peru.com/ > Hosting:: http://mlv-host.com/ > Mascotas Perdidas:: http://mascot

[Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/14/2013 07:34 AM, Fulvio wrote: Mario Lacunza wrote: Hi, I was following the discussion in silence, Im a scid user (now a scidvspc user) in Ubuntu linux for years and Im a dev myself and opensource fan (and off course I play chess since 12 years o

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Mario Lacunza
Hi, My answers between lines Saludos / Best regards Mario Lacunza Email:: mlacu...@gmail.com Personal Website:: http://www.lacunza.biz/ OpenOffice.org Perú:: http://openoffice-peru.com/ Hosting:: http://mlv-host.com/ Mascotas Perdidas:: http://mascotas-perdidas.com/ Google Talk / Y! messenge

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Fulvio
Mario Lacunza wrote: > Hi, > > I was following the discussion in silence, Im a scid user (now a > scidvspc user) in Ubuntu linux for years and Im a dev myself and > opensource fan (and off course I play chess since 12 years old... some > time ago ;) ) > > Fulvio: I dont understand your idea abou

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning)
kicking some very wealthy and developed commercial bottoms :) Best Regards, J -Original Message- From: Mario Lacunza [mailto:mlacu...@gmail.com] Sent: 14 March 2013 13:38 To: scid-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Scid-users] Project merge Hi, I was following the discussion in s

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Steve A
> No, i understand the benefits of merging the projects, and i will be very > happy too if you can consider the idea of working on both the projects and > in time making them converge I spent four years debugging this code. 1375 svn commits, and another year beforehand with only patches. Since yo

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Mario Lacunza
Hi, I was following the discussion in silence, Im a scid user (now a scidvspc user) in Ubuntu linux for years and Im a dev myself and opensource fan (and off course I play chess since 12 years old... some time ago ;) ) Fulvio: I dont understand your idea about the add more features to the sci

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Fulvio
Steve A wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Fulvio wrote: > >> Steve A wrote: >> >>> I think we're going to merge the two Scids back into one. >>> >>> Scid is a little stagnant, what with no active devs , no >>> file releases for ages and bugs in Git. This way we'll have >>> one bug

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Fulvio
Steve A wrote: >> i.e. Pascal's code for docking, don't deserve to be deleted for no reason. >> > > I thought i made it clear - first thing i will do is port the docking > code. I know this is important to lots of people. > > S. > > I thought I was clear too: - you're proposing to delete ab

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Steve A
> i.e. Pascal's code for docking, don't deserve to be deleted for no reason. I thought i made it clear - first thing i will do is port the docking code. I know this is important to lots of people. S. -- Everyone hates sl

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-14 Thread Steve A
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Fulvio wrote: > Steve A wrote: >> >> I think we're going to merge the two Scids back into one. >> >> Scid is a little stagnant, what with no active devs , no >> file releases for ages and bugs in Git. This way we'll have >> one bug free source tree, and one mailing

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