Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-25 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Let's assume I want to create rook endgame training database. First I will > create some categories, e.g. > Elementary endgames >Philidor position >Lucena position >Vancura position > Practical endgames >Active rook >

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Michal Rudolf
Alexander Wagner, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: >Well, in libraries you'd invent a classification sheme that >maps what is there and then assign a classification for it. >Those of you who know DDC (Dewey, all US will know it) know >how this works. DDC is pretty difficult as there is only one >single c

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
Hi! > 2008/6/24 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > > CentriScid_ID 123456 > CentriScid_Version 10 > CentriScid_TacticPly23 > CentriScid_TacticSolution Nxf3 ... > CentriScid_OpeningBlund

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi! > > 2008/6/24 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>: >> >>CentriScid_ID 123456 >>CentriScid_Version 10 >>CentriScid_TacticPly23 >>CentriScid_TacticSoluti

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > CentriScid_ID 123456 >> CentriScid_Version 10 >> CentriScid_TacticPly23 >> CentriScid_TacticSolution Nxf3 ... >> CentriScid_OpeningBlunder 7 >> CentriScid_OpeningBlunderSideToMove black >> > > This has a major di

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project]

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > 2008/6/24 Claus Behl <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: > > i would be glad to add 5o Exercises. But i have a question about > copyright. Is it allowed to take examples from books? It should be, > because this books about tactical (or endgame)

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I'll try to reread all that has been said and provide an overview of the ideas discussed so far. I'll try to report that overview tomorrow. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell ser

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > Today, I also had some thoughts about unique id's. Probably a > structured ID would be a good approach. One could use a structure > already common in URN or DOI services. For a chess DB it could look > like this: > > DBID:Version-Number > > E.

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project]

2008-06-24 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I think for Kasparian's case, it's ok : USSR did not have copyrights agreement, to the joy of Pergamon, for instance. On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Pascal Georges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2008/6/24 Claus Behl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> i would be glad to add 5o Exercises. But i have a qu

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
Michal Rudolf wrote: Hi! Some sidenotes from the librarian as classification is part of my job. ;) >> So we should aim at a solution that relies more on >> structure than feedback. A better idea for Scid would be >> classify the exercises according to the kind of material >> configuration : paw

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > Just looking at Zurich 1953 casually made me found, for > the first 30 games, something like one very good exercise > every two games. And that's just with the help of > comments, diagrams and my wetware mind. Finding good > exercises is not that difficult ; findin

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
a brilliancy within the collection to also flag it as brilliancy, stuff like that. If you want to I'd contribute my [Ref...] tags to the project ie. links to printed literature I added to my reference DB. Its not much that I've on my shelf and I'm not yet complete but ther

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! [Flags] > It would not be hard to normalize those and find an UI to display those > tactical motifs. What lacks is the matter (the bases). To build the user > interface comes after, because I dont' want to set up something that > would remain empty. You are right, b

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project]

2008-06-24 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Claus Behl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > i would be glad to add 5o Exercises. But i have a question about > copyright. Is it allowed to take examples from books? It should be, > because this books about tactical (or endgame) exercises are filled with > mostly the same examples. So would it be o

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project]

2008-06-24 Thread Claus Behl
Pascal Georges schrieb: > > > 2008/6/24 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >: > > Pascal Georges, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: > > >Yes, I agree. And contributions are most welcome here. Who has a > good > >(copyright free) tactics base ?? > Even if we don't

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Michal, We must distinguish training with basic examples, say Lasker's and Vukovic's books from a more advanced training, when we would like to train someone according to his opening repertoire, or according to the game situation the apprentice needs to improve. For the latter, tactical training

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Michal Rudolf
Benoit St-Pierre, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: >Hello, >So we should aim at a solution that relies more on structure than feedback. >A better idea for Scid would be classify the exercises according to the kind >of material configuration : pawn structure and piece distribution. This makes sense for

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Hello, My two cents on databases like endgame and tactical exercises. Just looking at Zurich 1953 casually made me found, for the first 30 games, something like one very good exercise every two games. And that's just with the help of comments, diagrams and my wetware mind. Finding good exercise

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: >> Even if we don't find one, we can create it - it is enough to find a few >> people that would commit some 50 exercises and join databases. >Yes, it is feasible, but who is behind the "we" ? ;-) I can add 50 tactical exercises. 5 more volunteers and we ha

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: > > >Yes, I agree. And contributions are most welcome here. Who has a good > >(copyright free) tactics base ?? > Even if we don't find one, we can create it - it is enough to find a few > people that would com

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: >prefer > >CentriScid_ID 123456 >CentriScid_Version 10 >CentriScid_TacticPly23 >CentriScid_TacticSolution Nxf3 ... >CentriScid_OpeningBlunder 7 >CentriScid_OpeningBlunderSideToMove black >So a complete list of needed key

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, wtorek, 24 czerwca 2008: >Yes, I agree. And contributions are most welcome here. Who has a good >(copyright free) tactics base ?? Even if we don't find one, we can create it - it is enough to find a few people that would commit some 50 exercises and join databases. >> >Or those

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges, poniedziaƂek, 23 czerwca 2008: > > >A question is what are the needed DBs : certainly a general ref DB but > also > >more specialized DBs like tactics, endings, openings (enhancing critical > >positions). > Separate databases are bet

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/24 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Today, I also had some thoughts about unique id's. Probably a structured ID > would be a good approach. One could use a structure already common in URN or > DOI services. For a chess DB it could look like this: > > DBID:Version-Number > > E.g. >

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-24 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, poniedziaƂek, 23 czerwca 2008: >A question is what are the needed DBs : certainly a general ref DB but also >more specialized DBs like tactics, endings, openings (enhancing critical >positions). Separate databases are better for this, I think, as those are likely to contain pos

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-23 Thread Alexander Wagner
a brilliancy within the collection to also flag it as brilliancy, stuff like that. If you want to I'd contribute my [Ref...] tags to the project ie. links to printed literature I added to my reference DB. Its not much that I've on my shelf and I'm not yet complete but ther

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-23 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/23 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Besides: I'm not sure that cvs or a similar tool is suitable > for a project that would result in that large an ammount of > individual files if you keep it in pgn. Surely, it can > handle it but I don't think very effectively. > > Maybe it is a b

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-23 Thread Alexander Wagner
Cory Helfrich wrote: Hi! >> **Unique Ids**. ~~ Those little gremlins are what makes >> a database a real database. We should normalize to a >> point we get those for all the essential parts of our >> information system. All the work my friend is doing is >> of absolutely no use because he p

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-23 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Hello Cory, The CVS acronym stands for Controlling Version System, or something like that. It either means the concept of controlling version, or some piece of software that is used to that effect. In my case, I was thinking about the concept of controlling versions. All this should be automati

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Cory Helfrich
On Jun 22, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: > Alexander, > > I like the ideas you are putting forward ! > > **Unique Ids**. ~~ Those little gremlins are what makes a database > a real database. We should normalize to a point we get those for > all the essential parts of our informat

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Alexander, I like the ideas you are putting forward ! **Unique Ids**. ~~ Those little gremlins are what makes a database a real database. We should normalize to a point we get those for all the essential parts of our information system. All the work my friend is doing is of absolutely no use b

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Israel Chauca wrote: Hi! > I would like to help with this, it's the least I can do ;) Great. Welcome to the club. :) >> Perfectly agree. Additionally, if there're other tags >> available you could also include them. Usual tags that >> might be available are: > > Throwing away info hurts, usual

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I had something like this in mind : http://trac.edgewall.org/ That may be overkill, tho. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http:/

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Israel Chauca
Hi there! I would like to help with this, it's the least I can do ;) On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Alexander Wagner wrote: > > Perfectly agree. Additionally, if there're other tags > available you could also include them. Usual tags that might > be available are: Throwing away info hurts, usual

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > Suppose you have a closed tournament. You have all the games, except > one. That one, you're not sure, or you're waiting for the score to come > in. It's sensible that you enter the header without providing the score > : you're waiting. Sometimes, it's empty b

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Pascal, Suppose you have a closed tournament. You have all the games, except one. That one, you're not sure, or you're waiting for the score to come in. It's sensible that you enter the header without providing the score : you're waiting. Sometimes, it's empty because the game was forfeited, or

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! Ah :) It has a name, it takes shape :) > Here are very important concerns, in the words of Alexander : > > Especially taking care about doublette games, crosschecking that all > tournaments are included completely and stuff like that makes this a > bit mo

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Having one main database has its problems. Having distributed little > databases too. For logical reasons that are too long to explain now, I > think we should have a tool to help the maintenance of both style of > managers. > > But my point was

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Having one main database has its problems. Having distributed little databases too. For logical reasons that are too long to explain now, I think we should have a tool to help the maintenance of both style of managers. But my point was to have means to talk about the current status of the elemen

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > Just to separate the topics, I am posting here to promote the project of > building a free central repository of games. Hence the name, "centriscid", > which is the only prefix my word finder can give me to "scid" [1]. It is a > family

[Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Hello, Just to separate the topics, I am posting here to promote the project of building a free central repository of games. Hence the name, "centriscid", which is the only prefix my word finder can give me to "scid" [1]. It is a family of fish, as one can find here [2]. The Aeoliscus strigatus