Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 09:46:19PM +0800, John wrote: > On 19/03/13 21:42, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > > And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: should we say > > that the proposal was _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project? > > > > > No, but what does it matter? Has ethics gone out th

Re: [Scid-users] Introduction of me Junji and question

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 04:50:07PM +0800, John wrote: > On 31/01/13 07:44, Chris Bannister wrote: > > WTF, what difference does browser version make? > > > > If you're using a modern standards-compliant browser, none. Unless they > want to break into your computer. > > Most probably, you're usin

Re: [Scid-users] Project Proposition

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
Hi Aljoscha, Please see my responses below. On 03/19/2013 03:35 PM, Aljoscha Lautenbach wrote: > Hi Alan, > > I'm not sure if you realize this, but I think your many mails to this > list are mostly hurting rather than helping to make any kind of > progress. I'm sorry that you perceive my messag

Re: [Scid-users] Project Proposition

2013-03-19 Thread Aljoscha Lautenbach
Hi Alan, I'm not sure if you realize this, but I think your many mails to this list are mostly hurting rather than helping to make any kind of progress. I have not chimed in in a while because I believe everything has been said, and there is nothing left to do but to wait and see how Fulvio and S

Re: [Scid-users] Project Proposition

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 02:12 PM, Detlef Steuer wrote: > Alan, > > with all respect: Why do you think you are in a position > to propose anything if you use such aggressive and abusive language? > > Your tone hinders any community building, I guess. > > Regards > Detlef > > > On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -07

Re: [Scid-users] Project Proposition

2013-03-19 Thread Joost 't Hart
Hear, hear! JtH. Op 19 mrt. 2013 22:13 schreef "Detlef Steuer" het volgende: > Alan, > > with all respect: Why do you think you are in a position > to propose anything if you use such aggressive and abusive language? > > Your tone hinders any community building, I guess. > > Regards > Detlef > >

Re: [Scid-users] Project Proposition

2013-03-19 Thread Detlef Steuer
Alan, with all respect: Why do you think you are in a position to propose anything if you use such aggressive and abusive language? Your tone hinders any community building, I guess. Regards Detlef On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:26:32 -0700 Alan Whiteman wrote: > It is now clear that many of the o

Re: [Scid-users] Scid on the Move - "My player names" Does Not Work

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Thomas, Gherard confirmed this morning: > Yes it's the right place. Bye, Ben -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.n

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Philipp Enoeckl
Am 2013-03-19 21:37, schrieb Lothar Weimer: > Hello all, > > I'm another SCID user. My opinion is: > > +1 on a merge with Steven as Lead. > +1 on Joao's proposals. > > -- > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make you

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Lothar Weimer
Hello all, I'm another SCID user. My opinion is: +1 on a merge with Steven as Lead. +1 on Joao's proposals. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite

[Scid-users] Project Proposition

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
It is now clear that many of the old scid developers are either disinterested or against any progressin having Stevelead the scid project. It seems that his conversations with Fulvio have stalled and have cometo nothing. With Fulvio accepting blame for neglecting the scid project for two years

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 09:14 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> Just stating the facts. He's MIA only to resurface and deliver a bunch of >> empty promises. > Predicting judgements are not facts. > > Unless you can expound yourcommentyou are justobfuscating the issuebeyond what it needs to be. ---

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> Just stating the facts. He's MIA only to resurface and deliver a bunch of > empty promises. Predicting judgements are not facts. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Dow

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 08:27 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Piling on Fulvio is not the way to pursue a community effort: > >> A healthy community should rarely need a vote. Just stating the facts. He's MIA only to resurface and deliver a bunch of empty promises.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Piling on Fulvio is not the way to pursue a community effort: > A healthy community should rarely need a vote. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSFDm3UYkeE&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1 -- Everyone hates slow websit

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 12:02 AM, John wrote: > On 16/03/13 02:09, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> Please stop filibustering. > I think you don't even know what filibustering is. > > The Roman senators did it in the ays of the Republic. If a senator > didn't want some motion carried, all he needed to do was talk unt

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/18/2013 10:05 PM, Jai Dayal wrote: > Based on principle, I'd follow Fulvio. It seems that people are > trying to push him out of the project he created. That's pretty > unacceptable, even if you all came from 3rd tier universities. > > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:01 AM, John

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 06:51 AM, Ben St-Pierre wrote: >> No, but what does it matter? > It matters insofar as the only reason provided to say that it's not > _exactly_ a rebranding effort *because* the scidvspc would remain > open. > > If this argument is unimportant, the whole argument falls apart. > > ---

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 03:32 AM, Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning) wrote: > Guys, > > Can I make one last ditch attempt to organize a conference call/IRC session, > anything where we can have a forum of open discussion between the main > parties? > > Again, I don't mind organizing it. >

Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 12:45 AM, Leander Laruelle wrote: > Hello all, > > I would apreciate if all socalled developers would keep their discussion > in the developer group. > SCID users are not de facto interested in these endless discussions. > > Thank you > Op 19/03/2013 8:21, John schreef: >> On 18/03/13

Re: [Scid-users] tk.h

2013-03-19 Thread Alan Whiteman
On 03/19/2013 12:57 AM, John wrote: > On 14/03/13 00:25, Fulvio wrote: >> Please open a database, open the tree window with CTRL+T, open the best >> games window clicking on the button in the left-bottom corner and check >> that you can sort the output by clicking on the column's headers. >> Thanks

[Scid-users] Problem with building from GIT on Debian

2013-03-19 Thread John
To rework my mods as Fulvio has asked me to do, I cloned the SCID repo using git. I ran the configure script, specifying BINDIR and SHAREDIR to install the binaries away from scidvspc. The compile failed, it couldn't find tcl.h. The configure script thought it was in /usr/include and that is be

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> No, but what does it matter? It matters insofar as the only reason provided to say that it's not _exactly_ a rebranding effort *because* the scidvspc would remain open. If this argument is unimportant, the whole argument falls apart.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 19/03/13 21:42, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: should we say > that the proposal was _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project? > > No, but what does it matter? -- Santa

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> The proposal was not _exactly_ to rename the scidvspc project, but rather to use it as the base for the new SCID. Whether the current scidvspc project remains depends on Steven and Sourceforce, but I guess Steven will soon stop work on it. And what if the current scidvspc project gets removed: s

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
+1 on Joao's proposals. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar_

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Kevin Taylor
+1 on a merge with Steven as Lead. Lets get this done and make SCID an active project again. --Kevin Taylor Twitter: @ktaylor *All that counts in life is intention.* - Andrea Bocelli -- Eve

Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
> Is there a developer mailing list? No, I don't think so. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Ben St-Pierre
Since we're into the Australian elections, here's another analogy: *** When psychologists talk about whether someone is in control of their situation, they talk about _agency_. A person with high agency controls their destiny. A person with low agency is at the mercy of others for their situati

Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?

2013-03-19 Thread Luciano Salerno
Il 19/03/2013 08:45, Leander Laruelle ha scritto: > Hello all, > > I would apreciate if all socalled developers would keep their discussion > in the developer group. > SCID users are not de facto interested in these endless discussions. > > Thank you I am just an user and I am interested.

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Joao Rita (Food Supply Chain & Logistics Planning)
Guys, Can I make one last ditch attempt to organize a conference call/IRC session, anything where we can have a forum of open discussion between the main parties? Again, I don't mind organizing it. J -Original Message- From: Philipp Enoeckl [mailto:philipp.enoe...@gmail.com] Sent: 19

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Philipp Enoeckl
Am 2013-03-19 08:06, schrieb Steve A: > Fulvio hasn't really looked at my project as far as i can tell, and i > get the impression he is not interested. > > So perhaps we can close this thread. Well, i am just a user, but it makes me really sad and frustated, there apparently will be no merge. I

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 19/03/13 14:58, Chris Bannister wrote: > You can't just change the name of the scidvspc project to scid and think > that it's OK. They are two separate projects. It's fine to merge any > changes in the scidvspc project into the scid project and then carry on > development within the scid project

Re: [Scid-users] Scid iOS Features?

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 21/01/13 23:37, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > You should take a look at Scid on the Go for Android. > > This is a wonderful tool. I really like the Study mode. So far, I've > studied Ruben Fine's games and am sifting through Kramnik's. I blame it > for my tendinitis. > SCID requires TCL. Unless you

Re: [Scid-users] Introduction of me Junji and question

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 31/01/13 07:44, Chris Bannister wrote: > WTF, what difference does browser version make? > If you're using a modern standards-compliant browser, none. Unless they want to break into your computer. Most probably, you're using something less well-known such as Seamonkey or a Debian version of

Re: [Scid-users] Referencing a game in a scid database

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 23/02/13 22:20, stephen williamson wrote: > Thanks for your reply, Ben. I'm a database professional both on the > theoretical side (data modelling and architecture) and on the > implementation side (design, administration and performance on Sybase > and MS-SQL). I deliberately tried to avoid men

Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?

2013-03-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 08:45:30AM +0100, Leander Laruelle wrote: > Hello all, > > I would apreciate if all socalled developers would keep their discussion > in the developer group. > SCID users are not de facto interested in these endless discussions. Is there a developer mailing list? -- "If

Re: [Scid-users] tk.h

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 14/03/13 00:25, Fulvio wrote: > Please open a database, open the tree window with CTRL+T, open the best > games window clicking on the button in the left-bottom corner and check > that you can sort the output by clicking on the column's headers. > Thanks, > Fulvio > That goes to explain somethi

Re: [Scid-users] Person of good will

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 14/03/13 21:07, till plewe wrote: > I would also be willing to help coding (I can code in most languages > but have never used Tcl/Tk seriously). What stopped me so far were > limited time and the fact that I could not decide which scid version > to start with. Limited time still applies so I w

Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?

2013-03-19 Thread Leander Laruelle
Hello all, I would apreciate if all socalled developers would keep their discussion in the developer group. SCID users are not de facto interested in these endless discussions. Thank you Op 19/03/2013 8:21, John schreef: > On 18/03/13 22:09, hardland wrote: >> Recently I see there are Scid and S

Re: [Scid-users] ¿Merge?

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 18/03/13 22:09, hardland wrote: > Recently I see there are Scid and ScidvsPC. I only download Scid. I > don't need two chess database programs . > > Here has been proposed to merge them both. Good. But... this has > turned out to be a kind of crisis. SCID's been a little neglected for some time

Re: [Scid-users] Any free databases out there?

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 18/03/13 05:35, Jai Dayal wrote: > Currently, I'm downloading TWIC archives; I might write a script to > automatically do this, I suppose... > > I thought Steven was going to implement downloading twic in scidvspc. But, I've not been following the action recently. In the past I've used this. #!

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread Steve A
Fulvio hasn't really looked at my project as far as i can tell, and i get the impression he is not interested. So perhaps we can close this thread. -- Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 16/03/13 08:47, Wes Freeman wrote: > I prefer the single window scid, and use it in linux and mac. Does scid > vs pc work in linux easily? Is there any way to make it run in a single > window, like the old scid? I actually have scid vs mac installed, but > don't use it because I didn't like the

Re: [Scid-users] Project merge

2013-03-19 Thread John
On 16/03/13 02:09, Ben St-Pierre wrote: > Please stop filibustering. I think you don't even know what filibustering is. The Roman senators did it in the ays of the Republic. If a senator didn't want some motion carried, all he needed to do was talk until sundown. The didn't have questions such