[Scid-users] R: scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread f...@libero.it
Messaggio originale Da: maggie6...@web.de btw, i like the chessx project, the idea of writing a modern chess interface. but the work at scid is much more active, so what about putting the ideas of the chessx project into the scid project? The code is a mess, but i works well, i

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Michal Rudolf
2010-02-07 19:56:49, Remco Gerlich: > On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: > > Thank you, Michal and Alex, for your complete answers. > > > > As I see it now, there would be a need for Scid GUI to behave like a > > normal application. Its GUI must standardize with the others, li

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> What standard? Windows isn't Mac isn't Gnome isn't KDE isn't a mobile device Scid for Windows should behave like a Win app, Scid for Mac should behave like a Mac app, Scid for OSF/Motif should behave like a Motif app, etc. We can admit we are far from that. Among the many chessplayers to whom

[Scid-users] Free compiler for Scid under Windows?

2010-02-07 Thread Remco Gerlich
Hi, I don't know if this is in some FAQ somewhere, but: I want to compile Scid under Windows Vista. I don't want to pay for a compiler. Is there a free alternative with which I can produce executables? What else do I need (Tcl/Tk dev files, I guess?) Thanks, Remco Gerlich ---

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Remco Gerlich
On Sun, Feb 7, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: > Thank you, Michal and Alex, for your complete answers. > > As I see it now, there would be a need for Scid GUI to behave like a > normal application. Its GUI must standardize with the others, like > the strange context-dependent keystrokes

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > As I see it now, there would be a need for Scid GUI to behave like a > normal application. But it does. Some keystrokes just don't make sense in another applications while "usual" keystrokes don't make sense in Scid. (Think of Ctrl-A to add a variation vs. mark al

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Thank you, Michal and Alex, for your complete answers. As I see it now, there would be a need for Scid GUI to behave like a normal application. Its GUI must standardize with the others, like the strange context-dependent keystrokes. No doubt about that. But is that difficult to change that in T

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > Not wanting to enter yet another language war, the question still begs > to be asked : what limitations would justify to depart from Tcl/Tk ? I see no real limitations. The main drawback of Tcl/Tk is of course that you've a pretty small developers community with an

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Alexander Wagner
Michal Rudolf wrote: Hi! >> No offense to chessx, the idea is great, I agree. I even >> like the project in some respects. But you're here >> comparing a second class pgn viewer to a complete chess >> database in the league of some of the better commercial >> tools available. Just to give an idea

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Not wanting to enter yet another language war, the question still begs to be asked : what limitations would justify to depart from Tcl/Tk ? The two reasons so far are not really convincing. User-friendliness is unrelated to the language behind an application; "being not nice" is a bit fuzzy, to sa

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Michal Rudolf
2010-02-07 13:45:48, Alexander Wagner: > No offense to chessx, the idea is great, I agree. I even like the > project in some respects. But you're here comparing a second class pgn > viewer to a complete chess database in the league of some of the better > commercial tools available. Just to give

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Michal Rudolf
2010-02-07 12:19:00, Steven: > Michal... you can do it :-) > > Seriously.. There's around 150,000 lines of Tcl in Scid, which might equal > half a million lines of Gtk. ChessX started exactly with such an idea in mind: to combine Scid backend with modern GUI. Unfortunately, it turned out that Sc

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Alexander Wagner
Maggie Simpson wrote: Hi! > what do you think about the idea of porting scid to gtk(mm)? i think > that would make scid much more user friendly and it would be nicer in > the desktop environment. Well, if you have several man years in spare time or a complete development team... > before i a

Re: [Scid-users] scid in gtkmm

2010-02-07 Thread Steven
Michal... you can do it :-) Seriously.. There's around 150,000 lines of Tcl in Scid, which might equal half a million lines of Gtk. __ Yahoo!7: Catch-up on your favourite Channel 7 TV shows easily, legall