Re: [Scid-users] Crafty 21.6 on Mac

2008-06-27 Thread Pascal Georges
> > Ahm, crafty is no UCI engine and I do not know of a > mechanism how to use a general book using xboard protocol. > AFAIK this is a major difference between the two. (Plus > pondering.) How did you accomplish to handle the book for > crafty? > In exactly the same way as for an UCI engine : the

Re: [Scid-users] Scid Database + Some suggestions

2008-06-27 Thread Michal Rudolf
Pascal Georges, piątek, 27 czerwca 2008: >> I do have some suggestions: >> - maybe budle up the chess12 latex package along with scid: this way latex >> opening reports saved with scid can be turned into pdf... on my gentoo >> linux I'm using rubber for this >> (http://iml.univ-mrs.fr/~beffara/sof

Re: [Scid-users] Scid Database + Some suggestions

2008-06-27 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/27 Bogdan Burlacu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > I haven't quoted everything discussed but I have read it all. > I'm playing chess for almost 14 years now, and been using chess software > starting with the earliest fritz and chessbase version; anyway, my point is, > you only need a datab

Re: [Scid-users] Crafty 21.6 on Mac

2008-06-27 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > > Yes, I got it and now crafty works, except that it's unable to open > > book.bin and books.bin, any idea about this? > > > Not sure, really. They're not in the scid tree and their installation > is commented out in Makefile.conf. You can prob

Re: [Scid-users] Scid Database + Some suggestions

2008-06-27 Thread Bogdan Burlacu
Hello, I haven't quoted everything discussed but I have read it all. I'm playing chess for almost 14 years now, and been using chess software starting with the earliest fritz and chessbase version; anyway, my point is, you only need a database for two things: opening preparation and tournament

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread pgeorges
Michal Rudolf a écrit : > Pascal Georges, czwartek, 26 czerwca 2008: > > >> The penalty is at least 15 bytes + tag (uid) = 18 bytes. I checked the >> "enormous" base on Crafty's site, and each game is 82 bytes on average. So >> we increase games' data by 18% ! The figure is high, and should be

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread pgeorges
Benoit St-Pierre a écrit : > Would this algorithm be of any use ? > > http://blog.tech.stylefeeder.com/2008/05/27/generating-primary-keys/ > Yes of course, I know this kind of thing. But there remains technical problems, along with performance ones. And the ratio value/cost is really too low. Pa

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Would this algorithm be of any use ? http://blog.tech.stylefeeder.com/2008/05/27/generating-primary-keys/ - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Ope

Re: [Scid-users] OT: how handle would work / Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Alexander Wagner
Hi! Living without IDs is IMHO only not worse than now. DOI (Handle) is beyond the scope for the project. These are persistent identifier schemes that work by a central DB that knows how to resolve the ID to the unique resource in question. This stuff is all web-based and target is "any objec

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > What do you do if you have the Gligoric annotated game, and the > Kasparov one, your Togofied one, and all the drafts about the game > ? What do you do if you have ten snapshots (fragments) from this game ? > > This is a good example demonstrating UIDs

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > and especially the validation process that Scid *must* > succeed : > http://www.monkeyproofsoftware.com/en/validation.php Scid will most likely not pass that at the one star level. (Not that much a problem as most chimps don't play chess ;) > The penalty is at lea

Re: [Scid-users] About a 3rd engine

2008-06-27 Thread Alexander Wagner
Giorgio Bellegotti wrote: Hi! > Yes, and also we can't add a new menu item every engine, but it would > be far better to have only one menu "Add engine...". Simple question: how do you want to separate the different engines analysing? (I do not see an issue with another window as long as it hoo

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Alexander Wagner
Michal Rudolf wrote: Hi! > Benoit St-Pierre, piątek, 27 czerwca 2008: >>> This is a good example demonstrating UIDs are useless : everybody would >>> prefer to set an "Annotator" tag and even comments, far easier to >>> understand and manage than a game with same tags but different UID. >> This

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Michal Rudolf
Benoit St-Pierre, piątek, 27 czerwca 2008: >> This is a good example demonstrating UIDs are useless : everybody would >> prefer to set an "Annotator" tag and even comments, far easier to >> understand and manage than a game with same tags but different UID. > >This is a good example of reasoning s

Re: [Scid-users] About a 3rd engine

2008-06-27 Thread Giorgio Bellegotti
Yes, and also we can't add a new menu item every engine, but it would be far better to have only one menu "Add engine...". Bye. Giorgio. >Messaggio originale >Da: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Data: 27-giu- 2008 10.35 >A: "Scid" >Ogg: [Scid- users] About a 3rd engine > >Hi, > >The idea of extra eng

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
> > This is a good example demonstrating UIDs are useless : everybody would > prefer to set an "Annotator" tag and even comments, far easier to understand > and manage than a game with same tags but different UID. This is a good example of reasoning showing why we don't have correct chess databas

[Scid-users] About a 3rd engine

2008-06-27 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, The idea of extra engine windows already popped up before, somebody asking for even 10 engines. My consideration is that it would a good thing to avoid windows proliferation, which implies to set an unique window embedding all engines. Pascal --

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/27 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I strongly DISAGREE with Michal on UIDs. These work and once established > are well accepted. A prominent examples is DOI for scientific literature > e.g. Besides I come from a discipline where you use to say "you should check > this paper by Mueller" (Michals ap

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/26 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > PGN tags are handled as strings. With this layout, each game will have an >> UID which will cost around 20 chars. So the sg3 file is increased by 60 MB >> for a 3 M games DB. So the average number of games in each block will >> decrease, leading

Re: [Scid-users] Crafty 21.6 on Mac

2008-06-27 Thread Garth Corral
On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:25 AM, Pascal Georges wrote: > > > 2008/6/27 Garth Corral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Yes, I got it and now crafty works, except that it's unable to open > > book.bin and books.bin, any idea about this? > > > Not sure, really. They're not in the scid tree and their installa

Re: [Scid-users] Crafty 21.6 on Mac

2008-06-27 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/27 Garth Corral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Yes, I got it and now crafty works, except that it's unable to open > > book.bin and books.bin, any idea about this? > > > Not sure, really. They're not in the scid tree and their installation > is commented out in Makefile.conf. You can probably

Re: [Scid-users] Database for Scid: CentriScid

2008-06-27 Thread a . wagner
Hi! A short comment only to this one at the moment. I agree with Michal that I prefer something that exits and works. I also agree with Michal that one should _not_ try to find the perfect solution for life, universe and everything including chess, but base it on simple terms. AFAIK building a