Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Cory Helfrich
On Jun 22, 2008, at 2:47 PM, Benoit St-Pierre wrote: > Alexander, > > I like the ideas you are putting forward ! > > **Unique Ids**. ~~ Those little gremlins are what makes a database > a real database. We should normalize to a point we get those for > all the essential parts of our informat

Re: [Scid-users] News from Shane and Scid at SF

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
I don't know. Pascal 2008/6/23 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Cool ! > > Is he still living at the adress he published in NZ ? > > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Pascal Georges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> >> >> 2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> I want to h

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 18

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
Did you try configure the engine, and its multipv line number (try 4) ? Pascal 2008/6/23 Roy Brunjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The engine I use is UCI. (Rybka 2.3.2a). > > The same is true for other UCI engines (Toga II for example). > > They both behave differently under 3.6.24 than they do under

Re: [Scid-users] News from Shane and Scid at SF

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Cool ! Is he still living at the adress he published in NZ ? On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 6:01 PM, Pascal Georges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > 2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> I want to help with SF webpage ! > > > You've got the job ! > >> >> I want to have news from Shane !

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 18

2008-06-22 Thread Roy Brunjes
The engine I use is UCI. (Rybka 2.3.2a). The same is true for other UCI engines (Toga II for example). They both behave differently under 3.6.24 than they do under 3.6.23 but I have no idea why. Thanks for your thoughts on this. Roy - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMA

Re: [Scid-users] News from Shane and Scid at SF

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I want to help with SF webpage ! You've got the job ! > > I want to have news from Shane ! Shane is well, but have no time now for Scid. > > I want the two above simultaneously ! Done. Pascal > > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Isra

Re: [Scid-users] News from Shane and Scid at SF

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I want to help with SF webpage ! I want to have news from Shane ! I want the two above simultaneously ! On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Israel Chauca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > WOW! Congrats to the new admin! > > My web design abilities stop at replacing content and html tags :) and > I only u

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Alexander, I like the ideas you are putting forward ! **Unique Ids**. ~~ Those little gremlins are what makes a database a real database. We should normalize to a point we get those for all the essential parts of our information system. All the work my friend is doing is of absolutely no use b

Re: [Scid-users] News from Shane and Scid at SF

2008-06-22 Thread Israel Chauca
WOW! Congrats to the new admin! My web design abilities stop at replacing content and html tags :) and I only use SF to download apps, sorry I can't help. On Jun 22, 2008, at 3:45 PM, Pascal Georges wrote: > Hi, > > Shane Hudson added me as admin at SF. So let's say bye to Scid2 at > SF (

[Scid-users] News from Shane and Scid at SF

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, Shane Hudson added me as admin at SF. So let's say bye to Scid2 at SF (I will delete the project). So I will be able to update CVS there, but some sections need work : - Scid's home page (mine at free.fr is not a model) ; - download section, which is a bit trickier than Google's code. So wh

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 14

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
What engine do you use ? UCI or xboard ? Pascal 2008/6/22 Roy Brunjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I tried to post screen shots to show the differences but that may not make > it to the rest of you (some sort of moderator action may be needed I think). > So, here are the differences (typed by hand): >

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Israel Chauca wrote: Hi! > I would like to help with this, it's the least I can do ;) Great. Welcome to the club. :) >> Perfectly agree. Additionally, if there're other tags >> available you could also include them. Usual tags that >> might be available are: > > Throwing away info hurts, usual

Re: [Scid-users] Next steps for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > I start a new thread for thinks to be clearer for me. > Continuing Scid development, I feel important (for my own > usage) to develop the opening related code and things like > the calculation of vars. For opening bases my idea is to > try to handle positions instead o

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
I had something like this in mind : http://trac.edgewall.org/ That may be overkill, tho. - Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. It's the best place to buy or sell services for just about anything Open Source. http:/

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Israel Chauca
Hi there! I would like to help with this, it's the least I can do ;) On Jun 22, 2008, at 1:35 PM, Alexander Wagner wrote: > > Perfectly agree. Additionally, if there're other tags > available you could also include them. Usual tags that might > be available are: Throwing away info hurts, usual

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > Suppose you have a closed tournament. You have all the games, except > one. That one, you're not sure, or you're waiting for the score to come > in. It's sensible that you enter the header without providing the score > : you're waiting. Sometimes, it's empty b

[Scid-users] Scid for the Impatient -- version 0.3

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Hello again, Here is the second version of a document called Scid for the Impatient. Links are not complete, since they await the creation of some other files. Comments are welcome. I am looking for proofreader, by the way. A short note about the format. I am choosing MultiMarkdown for the docu

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Pascal, Suppose you have a closed tournament. You have all the games, except one. That one, you're not sure, or you're waiting for the score to come in. It's sensible that you enter the header without providing the score : you're waiting. Sometimes, it's empty because the game was forfeited, or

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! Ah :) It has a name, it takes shape :) > Here are very important concerns, in the words of Alexander : > > Especially taking care about doublette games, crosschecking that all > tournaments are included completely and stuff like that makes this a > bit mo

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Cory Helfrich wrote: Hi! >> Exactly. ;) I'd suggest to base such a DB not on mass but on >> quality. > Agreed. We should decide how we will treat things like ambiguous > player names. Well, the names should be normalised to scids usual spellchecking/rating file provided by Franz, I'd suggest.

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 14

2008-06-22 Thread Roy Brunjes
I tried to post screen shots to show the differences but that may not make it to the rest of you (some sort of moderator action may be needed I think). So, here are the differences (typed by hand): 3.6.24 shows this (only one line of output in the analysis window) for a 13 ply search: 13 +0.13

Re: [Scid-users] Makefile and lang modifications

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Mikhail Kalenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > This patch didn't add $(DESTDIR) to engines install path because I didn't > build and install engines from the scid package. > Hi, This is not good, as this will break some Scid features. > > 2) I converted tcl/lang/russian.tcl from the cp12

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Having one main database has its problems. Having distributed little > databases too. For logical reasons that are too long to explain now, I > think we should have a tool to help the maintenance of both style of > managers. > > But my point was

[Scid-users] Makefile and lang modifications

2008-06-22 Thread Mikhail Kalenkov
Hello, I have built linux RPM package for the Fedora 9 distribution. I had to apply two patches. Perhaps these patches will be suitable to be added upstream 1) Makefile patch that added $DESTDIR prefix to all paths === diff -uNrp scid.orig/Makefile.conf scid/M

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Having one main database has its problems. Having distributed little databases too. For logical reasons that are too long to explain now, I think we should have a tool to help the maintenance of both style of managers. But my point was to have means to talk about the current status of the elemen

[Scid-users] Next steps for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
I start a new thread for thinks to be clearer for me. Continuing Scid development, I feel important (for my own usage) to develop the opening related code and things like the calculation of vars. For opening bases my idea is to try to handle positions instead of sequence of moves (so transpositions

Re: [Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > Just to separate the topics, I am posting here to promote the project of > building a free central repository of games. Hence the name, "centriscid", > which is the only prefix my word finder can give me to "scid" [1]. It is a > family

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Woops! Wrongly sent to Pascal : I like both ideas : + Using something like the Dublin Core + Using the YAWIS acronym for this kind of wish A temptative idea : if it's a short description, it could be laid beside the name of the database, at the topmost end of the main window ; but to know what

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > As far as I see, a scid DB consists of quite a bunch of > files. Eg. time stamping for CC is stored in a file called > *.sem. I could imagein to add another text file that > contains the description and that is read if it's available. > Just like th

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Cory Helfrich
Hello Alexander, On Jun 22, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Alexander Wagner wrote: [...] > Exactly. ;) I'd suggest to base such a DB not on mass but on > quality. Agreed. We should decide how we will treat things like ambiguous player names. Also, my opinion is that the seven-tag roster plus the source tag

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
The engine output is exactly the same as in previous Scid's versions. Only the UI has changed. Pascal 2008/6/22 Roy Brunjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I just downloaded and compiled 3.6.24. The analysis window only shows the > current PV and not the previous PVs. Is there a way to show each PV as it

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As far as I see, a scid DB consists of quite a bunch of > files. Eg. time stamping for CC is stored in a file called > *.sem. I could imagein to add another text file that > contains the description and that is read if it's available. > Just like

[Scid-users] A CentriScid Project

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Hello, Just to separate the topics, I am posting here to promote the project of building a free central repository of games. Hence the name, "centriscid", which is the only prefix my word finder can give me to "scid" [1]. It is a family of fish, as one can find here [2]. The Aeoliscus strigatus

Re: [Scid-users] Ratings lists / Photo files

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/21 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi! > > Could it be possible to have more than one ratings.ssp > within scid? I stumbled accross this idea while working on > CC support in some discussion with Austin. Actually, it > would probably be pretty easy to export e.g. the SchmingMind > r

Re: [Scid-users] Scid 3.6.24

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Pascal Georges wrote: > > Hi! > > I released Scid 3.6.24 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/ >> See the changelog for details. >> > [...] > >> Note also I set a link to download from google code (see the download >> page), so I will have less bandwid

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > [^wish] Wish-speak on. The database could also come with some > premiliminary comment, but I don't know how it could be done in Scid. > > > Scid bases contains at least a description field and a > flag. One (poor) solution is to use the game #1 to enter >

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10 - default DB for scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > -- >Which spelling must I consider if I look for a player? > >All special characters are converted into the English >spelling, therefore you must enter e.g. "Mueller"

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Alexander Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Well, acutally I think to host it together with scid would > be great thing for new users. Both for a "scid reference db" > and a "scid reference opening book". So, if there're some > readers of the list that would want to take on the > challenge,

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 11

2008-06-22 Thread Roy Brunjes
I just downloaded and compiled 3.6.24. The analysis window only shows the current PV and not the previous PVs. Is there a way to show each PV as it is calculated and scroll the PVs so the user can see how it changes over time? Without that, I'm afraid I'll have to go back to .23 ... Thanks, Ro

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Cory Helfrich wrote: Hello Cory! >> Also a community project within the current scid framework >> to create such a DB is worth to consider. A start might be >> "complete TWIC" plus manual selection of major tournaments >> before TWIC started, or whatever. I don't know what the >> community here

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > So I think we need a sample database. It should not be too big, just > enough to see how things work. It should be interesting to have for > its own sake. > I uploaded a sample DB in the download section. It can be a good start. > > [^wish]

Re: [Scid-users] Scid 3.6.24

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > I released Scid 3.6.24 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/ > See the changelog for details. [...] > Note also I set a link to download from google code (see the download > page), so I will have less bandwidth problems. Pascal, I added all the files also to http://www.s

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Cory Helfrich
Hi Alexander, On Jun 22, 2008, at 2:33 AM, Alexander Wagner wrote: [...] > Also a community project within the current scid framework > to create such a DB is worth to consider. A start might be > "complete TWIC" plus manual selection of major tournaments > before TWIC started, or whatever. I don'

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Hi! > The original idea sprung when writing a document I once called "Scid > for the Impatient". In this kind of tutorial, you introduce the > reader to the basic usage. Scid's on-line tutorial does that, but > with an almost random database [^tutorial]. > > So I think we need a sample databas

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10 - default DB for scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Hi! > Hello everybody! > > Regarding the discussion about scid having a default db included, maybe > a script/program to download games from the internet could be bundled > up. For example I have my own little C program using libcurl which can > get all TWIC issues from chessc

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Pascal Georges wrote: Hi! > Also a community project within the current scid > framework to create such a DB is worth to consider. A > start might be "complete TWIC" plus manual selection > of major tournaments before TWIC started, or > whatever. I don't know what the communi

[Scid-users] Ratings lists / Photo files

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Hi! Could it be possible to have more than one ratings.ssp within scid? I stumbled accross this idea while working on CC support in some discussion with Austin. Actually, it would probably be pretty easy to export e.g. the SchmingMind ratings to a proper rating file for scid, though one would stil

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Benoit St-Pierre
Hello again, The original idea sprung when writing a document I once called "Scid for the Impatient". In this kind of tutorial, you introduce the reader to the basic usage. Scid's on-line tutorial does that, but with an almost random database [^tutorial]. So I think we need a sample database.

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10 - default DB for scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
2008/6/22 Bogdan Burlacu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello everybody! > > Regarding the discussion about scid having a default db included, maybe > a script/program to download games from the internet could be bundled > up. For example I have my own little C program using libcurl which can > get all TW

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
> > One could also think about offering a large reference DB. > Some time ago chesslib.no offered a free 2*10^6 games subset > of their main db, and they also released their final db to > the public domain before the site went down. Today you can > not get this DB from chesslib.no, but still I'd ha

Re: [Scid-users] Scid-users Digest, Vol 23, Issue 10 - default DB for scid

2008-06-22 Thread Bogdan Burlacu
Hello everybody! Regarding the discussion about scid having a default db included, maybe a script/program to download games from the internet could be bundled up. For example I have my own little C program using libcurl which can get all TWIC issues from chesscenter.com, ending up with over 700

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Alexander Wagner
Benoit St-Pierre wrote: Hi! > A few months ago was discussed the idea to include a > default database. I was juggling about many ideas, > nothing convincing : Morphy's games, Zurich 1953, the > example database from [Scid's tutorial] [1], etc. Well most of this can easily be created from a larg

[Scid-users] Scid 3.6.24

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, I released Scid 3.6.24 at http://prolinux.free.fr/scid/ See the changelog for details. There is one point I am not happy with : piece sets does not look as good on Windows than on Linux (bad handling of transparency). Note also I set a link to download from google code (see the download page

Re: [Scid-users] Default database for Scid

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
Hi, 2008/6/22 Benoit St-Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > > A few months ago was discussed the idea to include a default database. > I was juggling about many ideas, nothing convincing : Morphy's games, > Zurich 1953, the example database from [Scid's tutorial] [1], etc. > > But now I think

Re: [Scid-users] Scid: scmerge does not work

2008-06-22 Thread Pascal Georges
You were right : uint gamesCount = 0; should be a global var and commented out in mergeFile function, and simply declared outside of this function: uint gamesCount = 0; //~~ // mergeFile inline uint mergeFile(Index * targe