Hi!
>> But reworking 8.4 without using new 8.5 doesn't seem
>> effective. For me it seems more reasonable to start
>> usability work once 8.5 is accepted for main branch.
> I'm afraid I just don't agree here. Scid's usability
> issues are not from the lack of shiny new widgets. They
> a
Garth Corral, czwartek, 22 maja 2008:
>The bottom line is that yes, it is doable but it is more development
>effort and requires maintenace of an 8.5 environment on the
>development side. It also ignores the fact that people that build it
>themselves will still have to install the dependencies s
On May 21, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Why the work should be useless? The only thing to add is static Tcl
> library,
> built once (we won't be changing them).
> Isn't it possible to create installation packages for Mac? And how
> adding
> newer Tcl library
Garth Corral, środa, 21 maja 2008:
>Well, it's true that there hasn't been an installable binary for Mac,
>but I have been doing some work to that end. In fact I can build one
>today that will work for the majority of cases. Going to 8.5 would
>render most of that work useless and delay making
On May 21, 2008, at 8:33 AM, Cory Helfrich wrote:
> On May 21, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Michal Rudolf wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't Scid compiled separately for Mac or FreeBSD?
> No. I have not seen a working scid installation package for Mac yet.
> I must compile scid from the source files to install it.
Well, i
Michal Rudolf schrieb:
Hi!
>> This requires a binary distribution outside the packaging system of the
>> target platforms in question. Also I want to mention that for binary
>> distributions target platforms need to be defined. Linux only? Mac?
>> FreeBSD? Others?
> Wasn't Scid compiled sepa
On May 21, 2008, at 5:27 PM, Michal Rudolf wrote:
>
> Wasn't Scid compiled separately for Mac or FreeBSD?
No. I have not seen a working scid installation package for Mac yet.
I must compile scid from the source files to install it.
>
> While I understand your concerns as proposed solution isn't
Alexander Wagner, środa, 21 maja 2008:
>This requires a binary distribution outside the packaging system of the
>target platforms in question. Also I want to mention that for binary
>distributions target platforms need to be defined. Linux only? Mac?
>FreeBSD? Others?
Wasn't Scid compiled separat
Michal Rudolf schrieb:
> Pascal Georges, środa, 21 maja 2008:
>>> One more idea: can we just provide Scid package for Linux containing Tcl
>>> 8.5 for those who cannot install it separately?
>> The simplest solution is to static link , and provide Tcl packages (Img,
>> http, tdom, etc.) : this i
Pascal Georges, środa, 21 maja 2008:
>> One more idea: can we just provide Scid package for Linux containing Tcl
>> 8.5 for those who cannot install it separately?
>The simplest solution is to static link , and provide Tcl packages (Img,
>http, tdom, etc.) : this is what I do on Windows.
Right, th
2008/5/21 Michal Rudolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Pascal Georges, środa, 21 maja 2008:
> >This way of migrating to Tk 8.5 is not feasible. The best thing to do
> would
> >be a branch of Scid that
> >will only handle UI stuff (no features), given that Scid 3.6.23+ continues
> >to evolve using Tcl/Tk
Alexander Wagner, środa, 21 maja 2008:
> > One more idea: can we just provide Scid package for Linux
> > containing Tcl 8.5 for those who cannot install it
> > separately?
>
>I do not think this is a good idea. In this case it would be
>better to add some script to the installer that fetches
>Tcl/
Hi!
>> This way of migrating to Tk 8.5 is not feasible.
Why? One could first adopt the easy parts. If I follow you
it means touching almost every UI part to move to the new
widgets. This will take some time, I guess.
>> Note that Tcl/Tk 8.5 does not only bring fancier
>> scrollbars but widget
Pascal Georges, środa, 21 maja 2008:
>This way of migrating to Tk 8.5 is not feasible. The best thing to do would
>be a branch of Scid that
>will only handle UI stuff (no features), given that Scid 3.6.23+ continues
>to evolve using Tcl/Tk 8.4. Then one day a merge can be done and this
>merging is
>
> One could consider of course to use wrapper functions for
> the widgets in quesion. Something like
>
>Scid::Scrollbar {} {
> if tk > 8.4 {
> use_new_widget
> } else {
> use_old_widget
> }
>}
>
> And then replace all occurances of the scrollbar call by
Michal Rudolf wrote:
> Alexander Wagner, środa, 21 maja 2008:
>>> BTW. Is Tcl already part of Linux distributions? I use
>>> Gentoo and it is there, though not enabled by default.
>> Of course. Its availabe since years, and actually, in a
>> decent package managing system installing a tool
Alexander Wagner, środa, 21 maja 2008:
> > BTW. Is Tcl already part of Linux distributions? I use
> > Gentoo and it is there, though not enabled by default.
>Of course. Its availabe since years, and actually, in a
>decent package managing system installing a tool that
>requires them will just add
Michal Rudolf wrote:
Hi!
> Alexander Wagner, wtorek, 20 maja 2008:
>> I just wanted to stress that someone who "just wants to play
>> chess" might be more interested in just using the stuff and
>> not that much in locating a screw named "tcl/tk 8.5 what the
>> hell that means". Its just ano
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