RE: solaris or linux

2000-10-19 Thread Alfredo Macias
> Other than that, it's up to you to go read some books, howtos, or ask a > linux kernel mailist list about your questions. Perhaps they already have > a draft/template written up. Well, thankfully I was asking for that kind of information. HOW-TOs, articles, papers, etc. Benchmarks would be a

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-17 Thread Bill Carlson
On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Martin A. Marques wrote: > Well, thankfully I was asking for that kind of information. HOW-TOs, > articles, papers, etc. Benchmarks would be appreciated. > Does somebody know where I can search the linux-kernel archives? The Solaris user license specifically forbids publish

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-17 Thread Kevin Holmquist
Hi Juha, > Ooohh... I couldn't resist replying to this one. In my experience, customers > decisions are based on what the sales geek tells them. It's often not very > related to the more important factors you mentioned above. > As for me, I don't know which is worse-- what our sales geek tells th

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-17 Thread Kevin Holmquist
Hi Rick, > Actually, Solaris was written for 32-bit SPARC chips then ported to 32-bit > Intel and 64-bit SPARC. SunOS 5.x (the actual OS component of Solaris) is > about 7-8 years old, the first 64-bit SPARC chips started shipping a bit > over 4 years ago, and the first 64-bit SunOS (5.7) came o

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-17 Thread Marco Shaw
> Well, thankfully I was asking for that kind of information. HOW-TOs, > articles, papers, etc. Benchmarks would be appreciated. > Does somebody know where I can search the linux-kernel archives? A search for 'linux-kernel mailist list' produced: http://www.tux.org/hypermail/ Marco ___

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-16 Thread Martin A. Marques
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > > I'm not sure what the intent of your questions is > > > > Linux would be a better shot then Solaris. I would like to know how each > > kernel works. How do the allocate memory, etc. > > Now, I'll still indicate that your question is a little too generic fo

RE: solaris or linux

2000-10-16 Thread Alfredo Macias
hard-to solve problems then ask in the lists. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marco Shaw Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 8:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: solaris or linux > > I'm not sure what th

RE: solaris or linux

2000-10-16 Thread Ward William E PHDN
then that Chase would be pre7.2 Bill Ward -Original Message- From: Dan Browning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: solaris or linux I've ask this in the FORD list, but as the discussion could have taken place here

RE: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Juha Saarinen
%-> Customers (and bosses) seldom make decisions based solely on %-> the technical %-> merits of a system. They often include training curves, cost, support, %-> personal preferences and other factors into the mix. Ooohh... I couldn't resist replying to this one. In my experience, customers dec

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Statux
> Well, I'm very confused. I have heard lots of people talk about the poor > performance that Solaris has, and I have to admit that I am suffering the low > performance, even on ULTRA-SPARC. What I want is technical reasons of why > Linux would be a better shot then Solaris. I would like to kno

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Rick Warner
On Sun, 15 Oct 2000, Kevin Holmquist wrote: > Remember the background, though: > Solaris is written for 64-bit Sparc chips and ported to 32-bit Intel, > whereas Linux was written for 32-bit Intel chips and ported to 64-bit Sparc. > I only mention this because when you start mixing 32 and 64 bit

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Kevin Holmquist
- Original Message - From: "Martin A. Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2000 8:54 AM Subject: Re: solaris or linux > Well, I'm very confused. I have heard lots of people talk about the poor > performance that

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Marco Shaw
> > I'm not sure what the intent of your questions is > Linux would be a better shot then Solaris. I would like to know how each > kernel works. How do the allocate memory, etc. Now, I'll still indicate that your question is a little too generic for an answer. You're asking people who dedic

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Martin A. Marques
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, you wrote: > Hi Martin, > > I'm not sure what the intent of your questions is Well, I'm very confused. I have heard lots of people talk about the poor performance that Solaris has, and I have to admit that I am suffering the low performance, even on ULTRA-SPARC. What I

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-15 Thread Martin A. Marques
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, you wrote: > I've ask this in the FORD list, but as the discussion could > have taken place > here, I'll ask: Don't know, I like Renault. Any way, this is not a car list, but a linux list, so your comment is totally Off-Topic, wheras mine is not. Saludos...:-) -- "And I'

RE: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Dan Browning
ECTED]]On Behalf Of Martin A. Marques > Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 6:56 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: solaris or linux > > > I've ask this in the SPARC list, but as the discussion could > have taken place > here, I'll ask: > > How does Solaris wor

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Martin A. Marques
in software (in my > experience this does tend to increase disk throughput to 150 or 200% of > normal, in fact it seems to let a pair of UDMA-IDE drives on separate > controllers easily outperform an Ultra3 SCSI drive. . .), and Solaris > won't, so Linux will allow these services to opera

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Michael R. Jinks
On Fri, Oct 13, 2000 at 05:57:58PM -0300, Chris Watt wrote: > AFAIK there is no software-only RAID > support in any version of SunOS. FWIW, in the Sun world these are available as add-on services. Sun resells two products that I know of, "Solstice DiskSuite" and "Veritas Volume Manager", the la

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Chris Watt
or 200% of normal, in fact it seems to let a pair of UDMA-IDE drives on separate controllers easily outperform an Ultra3 SCSI drive. . .), and Solaris won't, so Linux will allow these services to operate more quickly. Of course you can run Solaris (or Linux) with a hardware RAID controller

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Martin A. Marques
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, you wrote: > How do you define better? Instalation is easier, has better performance, easier to manage and administer, etc -- "And I'm happy, because you make me feel good, about me." - Melvin Udall - Mart

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Martin A. Marques
On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, you wrote: > I think your question is a little to generic, and you should be asking a > Solaris mailing list on how Solaris works. > > Myself, refuse to get into these "which is better arguments" without you > telling me your requirements. In my opinion, there is not "one OS

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Romain Kang
I think the question needs to focus on what your needs are -- there's no "one size fits all" answer. Both Solaris and Linux have their areas of strength, and if you extend them beyond those areas, you may wish you had another OS running. Likewise, they both have areas of weakness. If the objec

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Kevin Holmquist
Hi Martin, I'm not sure what the intent of your questions is Which is 'better' depends on what conditions exist. Do you need lots of support? Intel is probably better. Do you a huge enterprise level box to serve a database to thousands of users? Sparc is probably better. Remember, these

RE: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Warren Melnick
Godwin Plan: > cd /pub > more beer -Original Message- From: Martin A. Marques [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 9:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: solaris or linux I've ask this in the SPARC list, but as the discussion could have taken place here, I'l

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread tcurl
How do you define better? "Martin A. Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@redhat.com on 10/13/2000 10:25:51 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: solaris or linux I've ask this in the SPARC list, but as

Re: solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Marco Shaw
nother", but "one OS that better meets your needs than another". Marco - Original Message - From: "Martin A. Marques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 10:55 AM Subject: solaris or linux > I've ask thi

solaris or linux

2000-10-13 Thread Martin A. Marques
I've ask this in the SPARC list, but as the discussion could have taken place here, I'll ask: How does Solaris work internally, and why should I think that Linux is better (on SPARC or INTEL). Thanks -- "And I'm happy, because you make me feel good, about me." - Melvin Udall ---