Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-25 Thread Edward Marczak
On 3/24/02 9:14 AM, "Ed Wilts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Which makes me ask: Have I just missed a way to have samba authenticate >> through Pam instead of using its own database? > > http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/winbindd.8.html > winbindd is a daemon that provides a service for the Na

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-24 Thread Brandon Caudle
D] >Subject: Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux >Date: 21 Mar 2002 12:47:02 -0800 > >On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 09:15, Ed Wilts wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:37:25AM -0500, David Kramer wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Scott Sharkey wrote: > > > > >

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-24 Thread Edward Marczak
On 3/24/02 1:12 AM, "David Talkington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Gordon Messmer wrote: > >> On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 21:15, David Talkington wrote: >>> Edward Marczak wrote: >>> Which makes me ask: Have I just missed a way to have samba

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-24 Thread Ed Wilts
> Which makes me ask: Have I just missed a way to have samba authenticate > through Pam instead of using its own database? http://us4.samba.org/samba/docs/man/winbindd.8.html winbindd is a daemon that provides a service for the Name Service Switch capability that is present in most modern C libra

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Gordon Messmer wrote: >On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 21:15, David Talkington wrote: >> Edward Marczak wrote: >> >> >Which makes me ask: Have I just missed a way to have samba authenticate >> >through Pam instead of using its own database? >> >> Yes, but yo

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 21:15, David Talkington wrote: > Edward Marczak wrote: > > >Which makes me ask: Have I just missed a way to have samba authenticate > >through Pam instead of using its own database? > > Yes, but you may have to roll your own. See --with-pam and > - --with-pam_smbpass optio

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
... The copy of the message I sent which I received was incomplete. I'm resending it. On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 07:26, Ed Wilts wrote: > OE mangled your message - it came through entirely as an attachment so it's > a little more awkward for me to reply, so I'm leaving your message intact at > the bo

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Sat, 2002-03-23 at 21:00, Edward Marczak wrote: > > ...and a third: sites with mixed clients. Ever try to serve people who hop > around between Macs *and* PCs? While possible, it's not pretty. However, > with NetWare or 2000, both clients share the same password to authenticate > and groups

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Edward Marczak wrote: >Which makes me ask: Have I just missed a way to have samba authenticate >through Pam instead of using its own database? Yes, but you may have to roll your own. See --with-pam and - --with-pam_smbpass options to configure. Th

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread Edward Marczak
On 3/21/02 12:15 PM, "Ed Wilts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:37:25AM -0500, David Kramer wrote: >> On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Scott Sharkey wrote: >> >> Today, there is only one valid reason for not using a Linux box with Samba >> to replace NT shares or Netware. > > [compa

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread Gordon Messmer
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Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-23 Thread Ed Wilts
?In my opinion, XFS just hasn't been out long enough on Linux to prove long-term stability and vendor committment. .../Ed Ed Wilts Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Messmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-22 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 15:00, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:47:02PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > > > Have you looked at XFS on Linux? Using Samba on XFS (or ext3 with ACLs) > > should give you what you need: > > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ > > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/x

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ed Wilts wrote: >All this leads me back to my original comments - there is lots of work going >on, and I'm sure we'll have good ACL support eventually, but today it's not >there for most of us. You might get something work that works for you, but >

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 12:47:02PM -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > Have you looked at XFS on Linux? Using Samba on XFS (or ext3 with ACLs) > should give you what you need: > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/ > http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs/102_installer.html Start with the FAQ and you'll very

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 09:15, Ed Wilts wrote: > On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:37:25AM -0500, David Kramer wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Scott Sharkey wrote: > > > > Today, there is only one valid reason for not using a Linux box with Samba > > to replace NT shares or Netware. > > [compatibility

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On Thu, 2002-03-21 at 11:33, Lewi wrote: > > well, when I'm trying to search information in internet, I found that > linux with samba is slower than NT > try a look at: > http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/openbench1.html > I know that the result maybe can't be compared today > does anyone kno

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ed Wilts wrote: >Actually, there is a 2nd reason. Linux with Samba simply does not have the >access control mechanisms that NT does, and this limits the granularity of >access. For some businesses (like ours), this is a show stopper. Linux ACL >s

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread David Kramer
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > Linux is not the answer to every problem. It's getting better, but for > some > > tasks, Windows is still superior. > > Evil, Evil I tell you! No, realistic. If Linux apostles run around making like Linux can cure cancer and grow hair, manag

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott Sharkey wrote: >> http://www.mindcraft.com/whitepapers/openbench1.html >The mindcraft "study" was bought and paid for by Microsoft, and has >been widely shown to be fraudulent and invalid. MANY, many articles >have been written about the mult

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Jonathan M. Slivko
> Linux is not the answer to every problem. It's getting better, but for some > tasks, Windows is still superior. Evil, Evil I tell you! ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/redhat-list

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Ed Wilts
On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:37:25AM -0500, David Kramer wrote: > On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Scott Sharkey wrote: > > Today, there is only one valid reason for not using a Linux box with Samba > to replace NT shares or Netware. [compatibility reason cut] Actually, there is a 2nd reason. Linux with S

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Frank Carreiro
It was my understanding that KeyLabs performed the follow up study and demonstrated Samba was slightly slower than NT. Not surprising. I wouldn't consider a system emulating something else to be just as fast or better when compared apples to apples. If you really need fast file server manipu

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Anthony E. Greene
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Lewi wrote: >I have a job to replace Netware to linux as linux server on my division, > >well, when I'm trying to search information in internet, I found that >linux with samba is slower than NT >try a look at: >http://www.mindcra

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Frank Carreiro
I remember that report. At first they wouldn't tell me when I called who paid for the tests. It was only after a week of bitching how they screwed up their tests that I finally received the answer. There were things they did in their detailed analysis that proves they boosted NT's default se

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Frank Carreiro
The gartner group says otherwise about Apache. They recommended last year that people migrate from IIS to some OTHER web server product such as Apache. Speaking of which. I used both products for years. I haven't had a problem with my Apache servers over the last 4 years however the IIS s

Re: [REDHAT] Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread David Kramer
On Thu, 21 Mar 2002, Scott Sharkey wrote: > The mindcraft "study" was bought and paid for by Microsoft, and has > been widely shown to be fraudulent and invalid. MANY, many articles > have been written about the multitude of ways in which they skewed > the results to favor MS. In addition, ther

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Brandon Caudle
Samba is great, I use it home, at school, and at my office! Any ?s just email me! Oh and its fast, i think faster than an NT server. ~brandon >From: Lewi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: file server with linux >Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:33:13 -

Re: file server with linux

2002-03-21 Thread Scott Sharkey
The mindcraft "study" was bought and paid for by Microsoft, and has been widely shown to be fraudulent and invalid. MANY, many articles have been written about the multitude of ways in which they skewed the results to favor MS. In addition, there were some valid criticisms of Linux in the report