FW: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat Don't be

2001-04-03 Thread Linux
ime Mike -Original Message- From: Aage J. Skjolingstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 2 April 2001 14:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat Charles, I regret my wrath, but it is the "no my fault" attitude of RH over a few years that an

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-03 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 4/2/01 10:37 PM -0500, you wrote: > > I could have had the whole thing for free; but there is no free lunch, and > > if you want lowest cost you don't get much (or any) support. Free downloads > > and product, but no free support. > >I never downloaded - I paid for it !!! I understand your sit

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-03 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 4/2/01 07:51 PM -0500, you wrote: > >Even better, stay subscribed and set a filter in your mail client to: > > > >* Mark all mails from this list as read, then > >* Put all mails from this list in a folder > >Why on earth expend the disk space, when Brother Mead has already done >the hard work

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-02 Thread Aage J. Skjolingstad
"Rodolfo J. Paiz" wrote: > > I disagree. I think the "small guy" is best served by not having to pay for > anything he doesn't want/need. I now host a mirror site for RedHat, but > before then I bought CD's for two reasons: installation support, and > supporting RedHat since I'm happy with the

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-02 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote: >Even better, stay subscribed and set a filter in your mail client to: > >* Mark all mails from this list as read, then >* Put all mails from this list in a folder > >This way when you have a problem, the first thing you do is run a quick

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-02 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 4/2/01 09:18 AM -0400, you wrote: >3. stay subscribed to this list as long as you can bear the volume. You >can always get a lot of help here. Even better, stay subscribed and set a filter in your mail client to: * Mark all mails from this list as read, then * Put all mails from this list in

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-02 Thread Rodolfo J. Paiz
At 4/1/01 09:36 PM -0500, you wrote: > > The different packages all have clearly defined support strategies - > > the cheapest one has installation support only, the "Professional" one > > has more AFAIR. From there, you can go all the way up to 24/7 with > > people here having your beeper - but t

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-02 Thread Charles Galpin
My advise would be to stop using up2date, or tell it not to upgrade apache on you then. I currently take a simple (and more labor intensive) approach to upgrading so I can't tell you how to do this. My approach is: 1. subscribe to the redhat-announce list. This low volume list announces updates.

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-01 Thread David Talkington
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Aage J. Skjolingstad wrote: >It is up working for now; - but I do not feel safe about it as I saw >many references to mod_sll and the possibilities when HUP do not succeed >in killing off the children and the server does not restart, - I'm Wait a minnit, mah g

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-01 Thread Aage J. Skjolingstad
Trond Eivind Glomsrød wrote: > > "Aage J. Skjolingstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > They are packing in a Linux version - say like 7.0 - and this goes back > > to first when I started with 5.1 - I have soon spent more money on RH > > upgrades than I did when I was running Windows NT. >

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-01 Thread Aage J. Skjolingstad
Charles, I regret my wrath, but it is the "no my fault" attitude of RH over a few years that annoys me. This was my latest issue; Using up2date and updating several files rendered my Apache 1.3.14-3 with mod_ssl and OpenSSL server dead every Sunday morning. After searching and posting to many ma

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-01 Thread Trond Eivind Glomsrød
"Aage J. Skjolingstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > They are packing in a Linux version - say like 7.0 - and this goes back > to first when I started with 5.1 - I have soon spent more money on RH > upgrades than I did when I was running Windows NT. You can also download it for free, and it cont

Re: Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-04-01 Thread Charles Galpin
So, what problem can we help you with? On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Aage J. Skjolingstad wrote: > Hi All, > I'm really pissed off with RH. > > Aage J. Skjolingstad charles ___ Redhat-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://listman.redhat.com/mailman

Annoyed and Pi...d off with Red Hat

2001-03-30 Thread Aage J. Skjolingstad
Hi All, It is incredible the attitude of Red Hat, - and this is not the first time I have experienced the same attitude: They are packing in a Linux version - say like 7.0 - and this goes back to first when I started with 5.1 - I have soon spent more money on RH upgrades than I did when I was ru