Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Joris Meys
Dear Hadley, given you're on the list of R foundation members, I rest assured you have other channels to ask about the identity of new CRAN staff directly to those responsible. Their names and paychecks are of no interest to the general dev world. I can understand CRAN doesn't want to make these n

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Joris Meys
Dear Hadley, a follow up mail: You know who they are. Your organisation has the policy to add all email correspondence with CRAN to the github repo. https://github.com/r-lib/gargle/tree/master/cran-correspondence That's how I now also found out who they are. One is a doctor. She has a PhD. The m

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Hugh Parsonage
I can't speak for Hadley, but my read of his email was that CRAN has appointed new staff and while extra staff are clearly justified, it was unclear how they were appointed and whether they had equal seniority and authority as existing members. Indeed, the fact they use titles which are clearly jun

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Gábor Csárdi
Thinking about this a bit more, I think this might be a bug in R CMD check, actually. I understand that these flags are not portable, and yes, they should be reported if they are specified in the packages's Makevars* files. But in this case they are coming from the Ubuntu system's Makevars setup,

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread David C Sterratt
Dear all, as a CRAN contributor, I am interested in answers to the questions Hadley raises. I very much appreciate the huge amount of work the CRAN team do. I get the impression that hitherto much of it has been funded by "goodwill". That's not sustainable and it definitely needs to be staffed su

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 15 May 2019 at 11:49, Gábor Csárdi wrote: | Thinking about this a bit more, I think this might be a bug in R CMD | check, actually. | | I understand that these flags are not portable, and yes, they should | be reported if they are specified in the packages's Makevars* files. | But in this cas

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Martin Morgan
message() / warning() / stop() write to stderr whereas print() / cat() write (by default) to stdout. Even without being able to suppress messages, it is well-established practice (the story is that this is the reason why 'stderr' was introduced into unix, https://www.jstorimer.com/blogs/working

Re: [R-pkg-devel] advice about errorCondition() function in the Rcmdr package

2019-05-15 Thread Uwe Ligges
Dear John, I guess Rcmdr::errorCondition() will rarely be called by users (nor base::errorCondition), hence it should be quite safe if other packages import correctly into their namespace and use the version their maintainers import? From that point of view, there are no changes required in

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 13:16, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > On 15 May 2019 at 11:49, Gábor Csárdi wrote: > | Thinking about this a bit more, I think this might be a bug in R CMD > | check, actually. > | > | I understand that these flags are not portable, and yes, they should > | be reported if th

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Goldfeld, Keith
Forgive me for not completely understanding the back and forth. Do I need to do anything on my end, or are these changes that are being made on the server side? - Keith From: R-package-devel on behalf of I�aki Ucar Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:01:31 AM To:

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Gábor Csárdi
You don't need to do anything. Gabor On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:13 PM Goldfeld, Keith wrote: > > Forgive me for not completely understanding the back and forth. Do I need to > do anything on my end, or are these changes that are being made on the server > side? > > > - Keith > > ___

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Jim Hester
I agree that `message()` is in an ideally preferred, precisely because of the reasons Martin stated, it is easily controlled by the user. Unfortunately, in the real world, the windows R gui console and RStudio (which copied behavior) color messages, and anything on stderr in fact, in red, which co

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Goldfeld, Keith
So - even though I am getting the same note: Compilation used the following non-portable flag(s): from Ubuntu Linux, I should go ahead and submit? From: G�bor Cs�rdi Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 9:14:50 AM To: Goldfeld, Keith Cc: I�aki Ucar; Dirk Eddelbuett

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Jim Hester
Sorry first sentence should read I agree that `message()` is ideally preferred, precisely because of the reasons Martin stated, it is easily controlled by the user. On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 9:41 AM Jim Hester wrote: > > I agree that `message()` is in an ideally preferred, precisely because > of t

Re: [R-pkg-devel] Compilation used the "non-portable flag"

2019-05-15 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 15:43, Goldfeld, Keith wrote: > So - even though I am getting the same note: > > Compilation used the following non-portable flag(s): > > from Ubuntu Linux, I should go ahead and submit? Definitely. Iñaki __ R-package-devel@r-pr

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread John Mount
Dialogue is not always getting what you demand in one step. One form dialogue with CRAN is re-submitting with CRAN-correspondence stating what one wants. Also, for a lot of applications being able to turn off messages is critical. > Sorry first sentence should read > > I agree that `message(

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Jennifer Bryan
Hello, Since this has turned into a worldwide code review, I will briefly address that, then reiterate the point of the original message. I am working on an initial release of a package. It reveals information to a user, sometimes in a print method-y way, sometimes in more of a verbose / debuggin

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Mark van der Loo
For what it's worth, I recently submitted a new package that was initially refused (with comments) by CRAN. I updated number of them accordingly, but there were a few that with good reasons I could not change. I explained this in the comments when uploading a new version and it got accepted. So I

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 15/05/2019 10:40 a.m., Jennifer Bryan wrote: Hello, Since this has turned into a worldwide code review, I will briefly address that, then reiterate the point of the original message. I am working on an initial release of a package. It reveals information to a user, sometimes in a print metho

Re: [R-pkg-devel] advice about errorCondition() function in the Rcmdr package

2019-05-15 Thread Fox, John
Dear Uwe, > -Original Message- > From: Uwe Ligges [mailto:lig...@statistik.tu-dortmund.de] > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:51 AM > To: Fox, John ; R Package Development de...@r-project.org> > Subject: Re: [R-pkg-devel] advice about errorCondition() function in the Rcmdr > package > > D

[R-pkg-devel] noLD error in CRAN checks in package 'HACSim'

2019-05-15 Thread Jarrett Phillips
Hello, My package has recently been posted to CRAN, however, there is an additional issue of noLD on tests on x86_64 Linux with R-devel. I haven't yet received an email from CRAN maintainers on resolving the issue. However, I would like to submit an updated package version with improved document

Re: [R-pkg-devel] noLD error in CRAN checks in package 'HACSim'

2019-05-15 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 15.05.2019 19:50, Jarrett Phillips wrote: Hello, My package has recently been posted to CRAN, however, there is an additional issue of noLD on tests on x86_64 Linux with R-devel. I haven't yet received an email from CRAN maintainers on resolving the issue. However, I would like to submit

[R-pkg-devel] R CMD check works but with devtools::check() examples fail

2019-05-15 Thread Barbara Lerner
I have just upgraded to R 3.6.0 and when building and checking my package, R CMD check passes all the checks, including running the examples, but devtools::check reports a failure when running the examples.  I have also run the example successfully manually in RStudio. I would appreciate help i

Re: [R-pkg-devel] CRAN student assistants

2019-05-15 Thread Hong Ooi via R-package-devel
--- Begin Message --- I had a similar experience with a couple of my package updates needing changes. The background is that I have a family of packages for talking to Microsoft's Azure cloud service from R, and my examples are all marked \dontrun because they need an Azure subscription to work.

Re: [R-pkg-devel] R CMD check works but with devtools::check() examples fail

2019-05-15 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
Barbara, On 15 May 2019 at 17:09, Barbara Lerner wrote: | I have just upgraded to R 3.6.0 and when building and checking my | package, R CMD check passes all the checks, including running the | examples, but devtools::check reports a failure when running the | examples.  I have also run the e