Re: [R] Ordinal regression with some categories combined for some data

2016-01-17 Thread Bob O'Hara
Thanks, Thierry & Duncan. I'll go down the survival analysis route. The data are for central American epiphytes, so not your usual species. Visually there's definitely differences in the times of germination, but not in eventual germination, so that's straightforward. Bob On 17 January 2016 at 0

Re: [R] Ordinal regression with some categories combined for some data

2016-01-17 Thread Frank Harrell
This does seem to be a good situation for ordinal regression. The R rms package's orm function allows for thousands of categories in Y. But it doesn't handle censoring. This discussion would be better for stats.stackexchange.com Frank -- ---

Re: [R] Ordinal regression with some categories combined for some data

2016-01-16 Thread Duncan Mackay
Hi I have never seen germination experiments carried out as ordinal regression. Most germination tests are done using a nls model. For some species germination may only start a week after planting and then germinate over 2 or 3 days. If all germinated over the experimental period and there is no

Re: [R] Ordinal regression with some categories combined for some data

2016-01-16 Thread Thierry Onkelinx
Dear Bob, I don't know any package that handles ordinal data the way you are looking for. I'd just would comment on the ordinal regression. Would the time of loss be the ordinal response? That seems inefficient to me when you have a lot of time points (= lots of ordinal classes). IMHO the survival