Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread bogdan romocea
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Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 12/18/2007 12:44 PM, Antony Unwin wrote: > On 18 Dec 2007, at 4:49 pm, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > >>> One good alternative here is the fluctuation diagram variant of a >>> mosaic plot: >>> xx<-as.factor(x) >>> yy<-as.factor(y) >>> imosaic(xx,yy, type="f") >> >> That plot is better than jitterin

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 12/18/2007 11:21 AM, James W. MacDonald wrote: > Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> Yes, I agree. (As an aside, there's actually a capital S in >> smoothScatter(), and it's a bit of a pain to install, because >> geneplotter depends on something that depends on DBI, which is not so >> easily available

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Antony Unwin
On 18 Dec 2007, at 4:49 pm, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> One good alternative here is the fluctuation diagram variant of a >> mosaic plot: >> xx<-as.factor(x) >> yy<-as.factor(y) >> imosaic(xx,yy, type="f") > > That plot is better than jittering, but there's the problem in the > mosaic plot of u

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread James W. MacDonald
Duncan Murdoch wrote: > Yes, I agree. (As an aside, there's actually a capital S in > smoothScatter(), and it's a bit of a pain to install, because > geneplotter depends on something that depends on DBI, which is not so > easily available these days.) Somehow I always forget the capital S and

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 18/12/2007 10:02 AM, James W. MacDonald wrote: > Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> On 18/12/2007 7:31 AM, Antony Unwin wrote: >>> Wayne, >>> >>> Try the iplot command in iPlots. You can then vary both the >>> pointsize and the transparency of your scatterplot interactively and >>> decide which scatt

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 18/12/2007 10:01 AM, Antony Unwin wrote: > On 18 Dec 2007, at 2:42 pm, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > >>> (I must admit to being very surprised that jittering and >>> sunflower plots have been suggested for a dataset of 5000 >>> points. Do those who mentioned these methods have examples on >>

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread James W. MacDonald
Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 18/12/2007 7:31 AM, Antony Unwin wrote: >> Wayne, >> >> Try the iplot command in iPlots. You can then vary both the >> pointsize and the transparency of your scatterplot interactively and >> decide which scatterplot conveys the information best. Sometimes >> it's

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Antony Unwin
On 18 Dec 2007, at 2:42 pm, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> (I must admit to being very surprised that jittering and >> sunflower plots have been suggested for a dataset of 5000 >> points. Do those who mentioned these methods have examples on >> that scale where they are effective?) > > Sure.

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread hadley wickham
On 12/17/07, Jim Porzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Wayne, > > I am fond of the bagplot (think 2D box plot) to replace scatter plots > for large N. See > http://www.wiwi.uni-bielefeld.de/~wolf/software/aplpack/ and aplpack > in CRAN. The big drawback of the bagplot, like the boxplot, is that it's

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 18/12/2007 7:31 AM, Antony Unwin wrote: > Wayne, > > Try the iplot command in iPlots. You can then vary both the > pointsize and the transparency of your scatterplot interactively and > decide which scatterplot conveys the information best. Sometimes > it's helpful to use more than one

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread S Ellison
>> Antony Unwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >I must admit to being very surprised that jittering and sunflower >plots have been suggested for a dataset of 5000 points. Do those who >mentioned these methods have examples on that scale where they are >effective?) You have a point. haha. But che

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Antony Unwin
Wayne, Try the iplot command in iPlots. You can then vary both the pointsize and the transparency of your scatterplot interactively and decide which scatterplot conveys the information best. Sometimes it's helpful to use more than one scatterplot when presenting your results. (I must ad

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Duncan Murdoch
Jari Oksanen wrote: > Wayne Aldo Gavioli fas.harvard.edu> writes: > > >> Hello all, >> >> I'm trying to graph a scatterplot of a large (5,000 x,y coordinates) of data >> with the caveat that many of the data points overlap with each other (share >> the >> same x AND y coordinates). In using t

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Jari Oksanen
Wayne Aldo Gavioli fas.harvard.edu> writes: > > > Hello all, > > I'm trying to graph a scatterplot of a large (5,000 x,y coordinates) of data > with the caveat that many of the data points overlap with each other (share > the > same x AND y coordinates). In using the usual "plot" command, >

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-18 Thread Jim Lemon
Wayne Aldo Gavioli wrote: > > Hello all, > > > I'm trying to graph a scatterplot of a large (5,000 x,y coordinates) of data > with the caveat that many of the data points overlap with each other (share > the > same x AND y coordinates). In using the usual "plot" command, > > > >>plot(educat

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-17 Thread Jim Porzak
Wayne, I am fond of the bagplot (think 2D box plot) to replace scatter plots for large N. See http://www.wiwi.uni-bielefeld.de/~wolf/software/aplpack/ and aplpack in CRAN. -- HTH, Jim Porzak Responsys, Inc. San Francisco, CA http://www.linkedin.com/in/jimporzak On Dec 17, 2007 5:14 PM, Wayne Al

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-17 Thread Johannes Hüsing
Wayne Aldo Gavioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Tue, Dec 18, 2007 at 02:14:23AM CET]: > Is there anyway to indicate the frequency of such points > on such a graph? Should I be using a different command than "plot"? ?sunflowerplot -- Johannes H�sing There is something fascinating about sci

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-17 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 17/12/2007 8:14 PM, Wayne Aldo Gavioli wrote: > > Hello all, > > > I'm trying to graph a scatterplot of a large (5,000 x,y coordinates) of data > with the caveat that many of the data points overlap with each other (share > the > same x AND y coordinates). In using the usual "plot" command,

Re: [R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-17 Thread jim holtman
Use 'hexbin' from bioconductor to show how many points are in a grid on the graph. On Dec 17, 2007 8:14 PM, Wayne Aldo Gavioli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > I'm trying to graph a scatterplot of a large (5,000 x,y coordinates) of data > with the caveat that many of the data poin

[R] Scatterplot Showing All Points

2007-12-17 Thread Wayne Aldo Gavioli
Hello all, I'm trying to graph a scatterplot of a large (5,000 x,y coordinates) of data with the caveat that many of the data points overlap with each other (share the same x AND y coordinates). In using the usual "plot" command, > plot(education, xlab="etc", ylab="etc") it seems that the