Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-05 Thread seanpor
Good morning, I read (and occasionally post to) R-Help through nabble.com (http://www.nabble.com/R-f13819.html) and there is a rating system there by post rather than by author. Message boards (e.g. www.boards.ie amongst many others) note on each message how many posts that a person has made sin

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-04 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Dec 5, 2007 12:49 AM, Patrick Connolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 04-Dec-2007 at 05:32PM -0800, Ben Bolker wrote: > > |> > |> > |> > |> S Ellison wrote: > |> > > |> > Package review is a nice idea. But you raise a worrying point. > |> > Are any of the 'downright dangerous' packages on

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-04 Thread Patrick Connolly
On Tue, 04-Dec-2007 at 05:32PM -0800, Ben Bolker wrote: |> |> |> |> S Ellison wrote: |> > |> > Package review is a nice idea. But you raise a worrying point. |> > Are any of the 'downright dangerous' packages on CRAN? |> > If so, er... why? |> > |> > |> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/01/07 7:21

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-04 Thread Ben Bolker
John Sorkin wrote: > > I believe we need to know the following about packages: > (1) Does the package do what it purports to do, i.e. are the results > valid? > (2) Have the results generated by the package been validate against some > other statistical package, or hand-worked example? > (3) Ar

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-04 Thread Ben Bolker
S Ellison wrote: > > Package review is a nice idea. But you raise a worrying point. > Are any of the 'downright dangerous' packages on CRAN? > If so, er... why? > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/01/07 7:21 AM >>> >>I think the need for this is rather urgent, in fact. Most packages are >>very g

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-04 Thread Patrick Connolly
On Sun, 02-Dec-2007 at 11:20PM +, S Ellison wrote: |> Package review is a nice idea. But you raise a worrying point. |> Are any of the 'downright dangerous' packages on CRAN? Don't know about "dangerous", but I would like the opportunity to provide feedback or to have seen feedback from other

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-03 Thread Mike Prager
"John Sorkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I believe we need to know the following about packages: > (1) Does the package do what it purports to do, i.e. are the results valid? > (2) Have the results generated by the package been validate against some > other statistical package, or hand-worked e

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-03 Thread Pablo G Goicoechea
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Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-02 Thread John Sorkin
ailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cmis.csiro.au/bill.venables/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doran, Harold Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2007 6:13 AM To: R Help Subject: [R] Rating R Helpers Since R is open source and help may come fro

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-02 Thread S Ellison
Package review is a nice idea. But you raise a worrying point. Are any of the 'downright dangerous' packages on CRAN? If so, er... why? >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/01/07 7:21 AM >>> >I think the need for this is rather urgent, in fact. Most packages are >very good, but I regret to say some are pr

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-01 Thread Johannes Hüsing
Mark Kimpel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Sat, Dec 01, 2007 at 05:28:28PM CET]: > What I would find useful would be some sort of tagging system for messages. Hrm. I find tags immensely useful for entities which do not contain primarily text, such as photos. I am at doubt how keywords are important when the

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
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Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-01 Thread Mark Kimpel
is.csiro.au/bill.venables/ > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of Doran, Harold > Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2007 6:13 AM > To: R Help > Subject: [R] Rating R Helpers > > Since R is open source and help may come from

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-12-01 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Dec 1, 2007 2:21 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To me a much more urgent initiative is some kind of user online review > system for packages, even something as simple as that used by Amazon.com > has for customer review of books. > > I think the need for this is rather urgent, in fact. Most

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread Bill.Venables
-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doran, Harold Sent: Saturday, 1 December 2007 6:13 AM To: R Help Subject: [R] Rating R Helpers Since R is open source and help may come from varied levels of experience on R-Help, I wonder if it might be helpful to construct a method that

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread Matthew Keller
see it happen, Matt On Nov 30, 2007 1:53 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "Doran, Harold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Date: 2007/11/30 Fri PM 02:12:36 CST > >To: R Help <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [R] Rating R Helpers > > Of cou

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread Max
Maybe I haven't been on the list long enough, but how bad is the R advice on this list? Is a rating system even necessary? As Mark Leeds pointed out, there is the issue that what a beginner thinks is good advice isn't what an expert thinks in good advice. There is also the converse, expert advi

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread markleeds
>From: "Doran, Harold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: 2007/11/30 Fri PM 02:12:36 CST >To: R Help <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: [R] Rating R Helpers Of course, it's just MHO, but I think your suggestion is more work than neccesary because it becomes pretty ob

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread hadley wickham
A nice model might be http://www.workingwithrails.com/. It also suggests other possible measures of authority: * member of R core * packages written by/contributed to * R conference attended/presented at * contributer to wiki Hadley On 11/30/07, Doran, Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Si

Re: [R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread Frank E Harrell Jr
Doran, Harold wrote: > Since R is open source and help may come from varied levels of > experience on R-Help, I wonder if it might be helpful to construct a > method that can be used to "rate" those who provide help on this list. > > This is something that is done on other comp lists, like > http:

[R] Rating R Helpers

2007-11-30 Thread Doran, Harold
Since R is open source and help may come from varied levels of experience on R-Help, I wonder if it might be helpful to construct a method that can be used to "rate" those who provide help on this list. This is something that is done on other comp lists, like http://www.experts-exchange.com/. I t