Re: [R] Problem fitting a non-linear regression model with nls

2010-01-13 Thread Nathalie Yauschew-Raguenes
Actually, the data that I used are measurements of plant growth during an entire year.It is usual to model the growth with logistic models. I have already tried the simple logistic model (which works). But the problem is that with this model the inflexion point occurs half-way up or down the logis

Re: [R] Problem fitting a non-linear regression model with nls

2010-01-13 Thread Bert Gunter
> My question is how could I estimate those initial values so that the nls > fitting works. > You can't. Your parameters are almost certainly nonidentifiable (which is what Gabor told you more gracefully). Just because you believe in a complex (often mechanistic) nonlinear model and have some data

Re: [R] Problem fitting a non-linear regression model with nls

2010-01-13 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
You could try the brute force of nls2 package; however, note that you have 8 parameters and only 16 points so you might look for a more parsimonious model. Plotting it it seems somewhat gaussian in shape so: mod <- nls(y ~ a * dnorm(x, b, c), start = c(a = mean(y)/dnorm(0, 0, sd(x)), b = mean(x),

[R] Problem fitting a non-linear regression model with nls

2010-01-13 Thread Nathalie Yauschew-Raguenes
Hi, I'm trying to make a regression of the form : formula <- y ~ Asym_inf + Asym_sup * ( (1 / (1 + (n1 * (exp( (tmid1-x) / scal1) )^(1/n1) ) ) ) - (1 / (1 + (n2 * (exp( (tmid2-x) / scal2) )^(1/n2) ) ) ) ) which is a sum of the generalized logistic model proposed by richards. with data such