Re: [R] How to make a Cluster of Clusters

2011-01-08 Thread Tal Galili
Hi Diego, It sounds like what you want to do is to cluster 18 "observations" (each of them are clusters themselves), and then have each of the 18 tips have the rest of the cluster hierarchy in them. I don't think this is possible through hclust, BUT, it can (relatively) be easier to program using a

Re: [R] How to make a Cluster of Clusters

2011-01-07 Thread Michael Bedward
Hi Diego, It depends on your what your research questions are. You haven't told us :) For example, if you wanted to know whether (a) the environmental distance between lakes is correlated with spatial distance and (b) if the relationship changes over time you might do a series of Mantel tests. T

Re: [R] How to make a Cluster of Clusters

2011-01-07 Thread Diego Pujoni
Hi Michael, I agree with you and I will make this ordination. But I also want to check a spatial correlation of the variables, so I thought that comparing the dendrogram of the environmental variables with the dendrogram of the geographical distances of the lakes it will indicates if similar lakes

Re: [R] How to make a Cluster of Clusters

2011-01-06 Thread Michael Bedward
Hello Diego, This might not be relevant, but on reading your question the first idea that struck me was that ordination trajectories of your lakes over time might be more informative than clustering. Michael On 5 January 2011 01:31, Diego Pujoni wrote: > Dear R-help, > > In my Master thesis I m

[R] How to make a Cluster of Clusters

2011-01-04 Thread Diego Pujoni
Dear R-help, In my Master thesis I measured 10 variables from 18 lakes. These measurements were taken 4 times a year in 3 depths, so I have 12 samples from each lake. I know that 12 samples can not be treated as replications, since they don't correspond to the same environmental characteristics an