Re: [R] Error message in gamm. Problem with temporal correlation structure

2012-02-17 Thread HERNANDEZ PLAZA, MARIA EVA
Thank you Simon, that works well. I had tried previously m1 <-gamm(H ~ Tillage + s(Year, by =Tillage), random=list(Block=~ Tillage), na.action=na.omit, data =mydata, correlation = corARMA(form =~ Year|Tillage/Block, p = 1, q = 0)) and that gave me convergence problems. Thank you!

Re: [R] Error message in gamm. Problem with temporal correlation structure

2012-02-17 Thread Simon Wood
eva, The problem is that the random effects and correlation structure that you have specified don't meet the restrictions required by lme (which gamm calls). You can see this by trying M0 <-lme(H ~ Tillage , random=list(Block=~1), na.action=na.omit, data = mydata, correlation = corARMA(form

Re: [R] Error message in gamm. Problem with temporal correlation structure

2012-02-17 Thread Simon Wood
eva, I can't manage to replicate this by simulation. Is there any chance you could send me the data off-list, and I can take a look (if so I'll only use the data for the purpose of finding out what's wrong, of course). best, Simon On 17/02/12 09:35, HERNANDEZ PLAZA, MARIA EVA wrote: HELLO

[R] Error message in gamm. Problem with temporal correlation structure

2012-02-17 Thread HERNANDEZ PLAZA, MARIA EVA
HELLO ALL, I AM GETTING AN ERROR MESSAGE WHEN TRYING TO RUN A GAMM MODEL LIKE THE ONE BELOW. I AM USING R VERSION 2.14.1 (2011-12-22) AND MGCV 1.7-12. M1 <-gamm(DepVar ~ Treatment + s(Year, by =Treatment), random=list(Block=~1), na.action=na.omit, data = mydata, correlation = corARMA(f