Re: [R] Using n+1 instances of R to utilise n processors on one machine - something like R with tabbed browsing?

2008-11-15 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: This is what e.g. package snow does: it will also collect the results for you. See also package pvapply. Typo: 'papply' On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear R-help, Please forgive me if any of the following sounds naieve/confus

Re: [R] Using n+1 instances of R to utilise n processors on one machine - something like R with tabbed browsing?

2008-11-15 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
This is what e.g. package snow does: it will also collect the results for you. See also package pvapply. On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear R-help, Please forgive me if any of the following sounds naieve/confused, i've just got back from a mini-pub-crawl, slightly tipsy, and

Re: [R] Spatial ANCOVA in R

2008-11-15 Thread Andrew Robinson
Hi Camilo, try gls() in the nlme package. Andrew On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 11:34:57PM -0400, Camilo Mora wrote: > Hi: > > Does anyone know if it is possible to run an ANCOVA in R while accounting or > controlling for spatial autocorrelation? I have found usefull information into > how to account

Re: [R] unable to view vignette in R

2008-11-15 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
Why not ask on r-sig-debian?: presumably it is a setting in the binary install of R you are using that is inappropriate on your systems. On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Erik Iverson wrote: I never could figure this out, I had the exact same issue though. My solution was to simply set options(pdfviewer

Re: [R] HOW to provide a CITATION file?

2008-11-15 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, Spencer Graves wrote: "Writing R Extensions" is no longer available via "help.start()", at least not in the standard Windows install since R 2.7.2. If there is a way to get it to work again like it used to, I'd like to know. The only way I Are you getting the search

Re: [R] Statistics forums

2008-11-15 Thread David Winsemius
There are three sci.stat.* newsgroups on the original USENET hierarchy and at least one GoogleGroups location with activity. The Medstats group has reputable people contributing. If you post a difficult problem in integration or numerical analysis to sci.math or sci.math.num-analysis you

Re: [R] birthday problem (factorial limit)---fortune candidate

2008-11-15 Thread Richard M. Heiberger
The function ... works for different values of two Thomas Lumley __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide commented, min

Re: [R] I want my row name to be a variable

2008-11-15 Thread Jorge Ivan Velez
Dear CE.KA, Try this: X=read.table(textConnection(" Var1Var2 A 22 13 B5 2 C12 8 D199"),header=TRUE) closeAllConnections() X$Var3<-rownames(X) X HTH, Jorge On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM, CE.KA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi R users > > I

[R] Spatial ANCOVA in R

2008-11-15 Thread Camilo Mora
Hi: Does anyone know if it is possible to run an ANCOVA in R while accounting or controlling for spatial autocorrelation? I have found usefull information into how to account for spatial autocorrelaion in regression models but not much into how to deal with the problem in an ANCOVA. Thanks, Cami

Re: [R] HOW to provide a CITATION file?

2008-11-15 Thread Spencer Graves
Dear Henrik: Henrik Bengtsson wrote: Are you referring to the update that you now reach 'R: Search Engine'(*) when you call help.start() whereas before you got to the 'Statistical Data Analysis' main menu from where 'Writing R Extensions' is available (in HTML format)? Correct. You

Re: [R] HOW to provide a CITATION file?

2008-11-15 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
Are you referring to the update that you now reach 'R: Search Engine'(*) when you call help.start() whereas before you got to the 'Statistical Data Analysis' main menu from where 'Writing R Extensions' is available (in HTML format)? You can reach the latter from the former by clicking on the up-a

Re: [R] unable to view vignette in R

2008-11-15 Thread Erik Iverson
I never could figure this out, I had the exact same issue though. My solution was to simply set options(pdfviewer = "evince") in my .Rprofile. Presumably, you could set it to whatever PDF viewer is your favorite. I never looked further into why the default was doing what it was doing. Li

Re: [R] I want my row name to be a variable

2008-11-15 Thread stephen sefick
#if this doesn't work then swap the rownames... = ... to ...=rownames... a <- data.frame(your.df, rownames(your.df)=Var3) On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 5:34 PM, CE.KA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi R users > > Imagine this data.frame: >>X > >Var1Var2 > A 22 13 > B5 2 > C

Re: [R] I want my row name to be a variable

2008-11-15 Thread Erik Iverson
X$Var3 <- row.names(X) CE.KA wrote: Hi R users Imagine this data.frame: X Var1Var2 A 22 13 B5 2 C12 8 D199 A,B,C,D are the rows names (or index) Is there a way to create a new variable in this data frame which name is Var3 and which contain

[R] Classes

2008-11-15 Thread Nick
Code: # svm is an S3 class, so: setOldClass("svm") # Create the super class model: setClass("model") # For svm from e1071 this works (well gives no error): setIs("svm", "model") # For rvm from kernlab this gives and error: setIs("rvm", "model") # the "superclass" list for class "rvm" includes

[R] Using n+1 instances of R to utilise n processors on one machine - something like R with tabbed browsing?

2008-11-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear R-help, Please forgive me if any of the following sounds naieve/confused, i've just got back from a mini-pub-crawl, slightly tipsy, and am feeling brave to ask a possibly silly question... also, not to shiny on the technical side of things. Problem - I need to text mine a collection of 10,00

[R] unable to view vignette in R

2008-11-15 Thread Lionel Brooks
Hello All R-Gurus: ISSUE: Cannot view R vignettes due in Ubuntu Linux (a debian variant). note: this issue has been posted to this list before with no responses given see https://stat.ethz.ch/pipermail/r-help/2007-September/141178.html DETAILS: I am trying to view an R vignette. Here is the situ

[R] I need to compare ranking (1-15) across 10 replicates to see if the ranking changes significantly- how???

2008-11-15 Thread nashford86
Hi there all suggestions much appreciated! so our investigation is looking into the time pairs of guppies spend interacting... we have raw data in minutes, but have ranked each possible association between pairs (out of 15 possible) in order of frequency of occurence during a 20 min recording per

Re: [R] readPDF() -- unsure how to install xpdf to make this work?

2008-11-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I was just wondering if you had found a solution? I am having the same difficulty of converting pdf's into plain text documents in R. I originally thought I could use the readLines() function, but as you can see below that did not work. R> my.destfile <- "C:\\Documents and Settings\\clair\\

[R] I want my row name to be a variable

2008-11-15 Thread CE.KA
Hi R users Imagine this data.frame: >X Var1Var2 A 22 13 B5 2 C12 8 D199 A,B,C,D are the rows names (or index) Is there a way to create a new variable in this data frame which name is Var3 and which contains the rows names: Var1Var2

Re: [R] HOW to provide a CITATION file?

2008-11-15 Thread Spencer Graves
"Writing R Extensions" is no longer available via "help.start()", at least not in the standard Windows install since R 2.7.2. If there is a way to get it to work again like it used to, I'd like to know. The only way I know to get it is to go to "www.r-project.org" -> Manuals -> "Writing

Re: [R] Statistics forums

2008-11-15 Thread s j
I am also curious if someone can direct us to a good statistical group mailing list. I have been using R since few days and I find this groups amazing (with so many discussions pouring in!! I just love it.) But, I also seem to hit a roadblock for deciding which test to use, sometimes. It will help

Re: [R] HOW to provide a CITATION file?

2008-11-15 Thread Henrik Bengtsson
See 'Writing R Extensions' via help.start() and then search for CITATION. My $.02 /Henrik On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Charles Annis, P.E. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Greetings, R-ians: > > I am sure I am missing something obvious. > > How do I provide a CITATION file for my home-brew packag

Re: [R] Statistics forums

2008-11-15 Thread s j
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM, ANJAN PURKAYASTHA < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > Given that the R forum is mostly a site to discuss issues related to the > language, are there any forums that discuss statistical issues? I am > specifically interested in the statistical issues in experimenta

[R] RES: PostScript File Dimensions

2008-11-15 Thread Rodrigo Aluizio
Thanks David, you are absolutely right, the solution was more simple than I was wondering, sorry for the mistake. I always read the help files and search the older topic of the list before posting, but this time I wasn't able found out a solution for such a simple thing. I got very closer to your s

[R] rgamma with rate as vector

2008-11-15 Thread wcyee
Hi - I have a question about the following code from Bayesian Computation with R (Jim Albert). par(mfrow=c(2,2)) m = 500 alphas = c(5, 20, 80, 400) for (j in 1:4) { mu = rgamma(m, shape=10, rate=10) lambda1 = rgamma(m, shape=alphas[j], rate=alphas[j]/mu) lambda2 = rgamma(m, shape=alpha

[R] HOW to provide a CITATION file?

2008-11-15 Thread Charles Annis, P.E.
Greetings, R-ians: I am sure I am missing something obvious. How do I provide a CITATION file for my home-brew package, so that it will be packaged using R CMD build --binary myPackage? I have placed a CITATION file in the myPackage directory along with the DESCRIPTION file, but it is ignore

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread john polo
Megha Patnaik wrote: > Great! You can navigate to choosing the resolution from the warning window. > will do. thanks for your help. __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http

Re: [R] 3D trajectory plot?

2008-11-15 Thread Michael Grant
Are you talking about a 'streamline' like might be made with 'vtk'? or in a number of fluid dynamics, groundwater packages, particle physics codes, etc.? There was an exploratory hook up of R and vtk by M. Kondrin a year or two back (linux only). Search the archives. Parsing a vtk dataset in R s

[R] R: How to enable R on-line search in HTML help

2008-11-15 Thread mauede
-Messaggio originale- Da: Prof Brian Ripley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: ven 14/11/2008 18.27 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: r-help@r-project.org Oggetto: Re: [R] How to enable R on-line search in HTML help First, there is a R-sig-mac list for Mac OS questions. I will try the channel y

Re: [R] Superimposing y-variables in Lattice formulas

2008-11-15 Thread Deepayan Sarkar
On 11/15/08, Stavros Macrakis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Deepayan Sarkar > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> ...But how do I specify that I want to display all the Subjects on a... > single graph, superimposing them all? > > > > > Have you tried > > xyplot ( co

Re: [R] warning : increasing the PDF version to 1.3

2008-11-15 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, June Kim wrote: What does the warning mean? In dev.off() : increasing the PDF version to 1.3 It means you have an obsolete version of R, and failed to follow the posting guide in telling us what it is. ?pdf should explain the message to you in your version of R. E.g.

Re: [R] Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL best?

2008-11-15 Thread Wacek Kusnierczyk
Duncan Temple Lang wrote: > > Hans W. Borchers wrote: >> Below I enclose a solution that I have written some month ago. It is >> given in pythonic language, but you can easily translate it into the >> corresponding Perl terms. One drawback is that one cannot use numbers >> as keys, only keys follow

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread Megha Patnaik
Great! You can navigate to choosing the resolution from the warning window. 2008/11/16 john polo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Peter Dalgaard wrote: > >> from xdpyinfo: > >> screen #0: > >> dimensions:1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) > >> resolution:112x968 dots per inch > > > > Ick! > >

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread john polo
Peter Dalgaard wrote: >> from xdpyinfo: >> screen #0: >> dimensions:1280x800 pixels (289x21 millimeters) >> resolution:112x968 dots per inch > > Ick! > > Yes that will do that to you. > > You might want to try putting > > DisplaySize 339 212 > > in the Monitor section of xorg.conf > it

Re: [R] Rename objects based on list

2008-11-15 Thread jim holtman
Here is one way using a 'list': > x <- data.frame(a=1:10, b=21:30, c=41:50) > out <- lapply(x, function(z){ + hist(z, plot=FALSE) + }) > > str(out) List of 3 $ a:List of 7 ..$ breaks : num [1:6] 0 2 4 6 8 10 ..$ counts : int [1:5] 2 2 2 2 2 ..$ intensities: num [1:5] 0.1 0.1 0.1

Re: [R] Problems with rbind

2008-11-15 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
It also works for me using zoo 1.5-4 and R 2.7.2. Try it running at the beginning of a vanilla session. If still a problem reinstall zoo: install.packages("zoo", dep = TRUE) If still a problem reinstall R and then reinstall zoo, preferable going to R 2.8.0. On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Di

[R] Rename objects based on list

2008-11-15 Thread Wade Wall
Hi all, I am trying to find a way to rename R objects with names pulled from a vector of names. For example, I have a data frame, my.data.frame, and a list of names, my.names. My.names is simply the column names of my.data.frame. I want save the histogram with the column name as the name of the

Re: [R] make a triple summation more efficient

2008-11-15 Thread Charles C. Berry
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008, kathie wrote: Dear R users... I made the R-code for this triple summation computation http://www.nabble.com/file/p20517134/a.jpg - Here is my code.. x=seq(.1,1,.1); l=10 y=seq(1,10); m=10 z=seq(.1,1,.1); n=10 sum(sapply

Re: [R] PostScript File Dimensions

2008-11-15 Thread David Winsemius
You may be new to R but that does not mean you should stay "new" to the help pages. It looks as though postscript() is ignoring your setEPS efforts,,, with perfectly legitimate reason since that is not a defined parameter for that function. It is a separate function. What happens when you u

Re: [R] creating matrices from vectors

2008-11-15 Thread Patrick Burns
I think this approximates what you want: a1 <- 1:10 a2 <- a1 + 100 a3 <- a1 + 200 a4 <- a1 + 300 arr <- rbind(a1, a2, a3, a4) dim(arr) <- c(2, 2, 10) apply(arr, 3, function(x) eigen(x)$values[2]) Patrick Burns [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 (0)20 8525 0696 http://www.burns-stat.com (home of S Poetry and

Re: [R] Superimposing y-variables in Lattice formulas

2008-11-15 Thread Stavros Macrakis
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 6:55 PM, Deepayan Sarkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> ...But how do I specify that I want to display all the Subjects on a... >> single graph, superimposing them all? > > Have you tried > xyplot ( conc ~ time , Indometh, groups = Subject ) ? Thanks very much for your help

[R] GAMs and GAMMS with correlated acoustic data

2008-11-15 Thread David M Warner
Greetings This is a long email. I'm struggling with a data set comprising 2,278 hydroacoustic estimates of fish biomass density made along line transects in two lakes (lakes Michigan and Huron, three years in each lake). The data represent lakewide surveys in each year and each data point rep

Re: [R] Problems with rbind

2008-11-15 Thread Dieter Menne
TU wrote: > > A recent update on base packages on my R installation has introduced a > problem to my code which did not exist before the update. The offending > function is rbind, which fails where it was working just fine before the > update. > > I have two zoo objects, foo and bar, index

[R] Statistics forums

2008-11-15 Thread ANJAN PURKAYASTHA
Hi, Given that the R forum is mostly a site to discuss issues related to the language, are there any forums that discuss statistical issues? I am specifically interested in the statistical issues in experimental design. TIA, Anjan -- = anjan purkayastha, phd bioinforma

[R] make a triple summation more efficient

2008-11-15 Thread kathie
Dear R users... I made the R-code for this triple summation computation http://www.nabble.com/file/p20517134/a.jpg - Here is my code.. x=seq(.1,1,.1); l=10 y=seq(1,10); m=10 z=seq(.1,1,.1); n=10 sum(sapply(1:l, function(i) {sum(sapply(1:m,

Re: [R] Lattice: groups and no groups with panel.superpose

2008-11-15 Thread baptiste auguie
Hi, I think the following code should do what you want, xyplot(yvar~year|week,data=df,layout = c(4, 5), type='p', groups = temp , panel = function(x, y, ...) { panel.superpose(x, y,

Re: [R] creating matrices from vectors

2008-11-15 Thread Erik Iverson
James Rudge wrote: If I have 4 vectors (a, b, c, and d) each of length 1000, how do I then create 1000 two by two matrices from these vectors, such that: myMatrix[i] = matrix(c(a[i],b[i],c[i],d[i]),2) Then I'd like to create a single vector containing the largest eigenvalues of each matrix

Re: [R] Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL best?

2008-11-15 Thread Duncan Temple Lang
Hans W. Borchers wrote: Dear all, Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL? I'd like to set up a lookup table, which could be accomplished by HASH if using PERL. Which of the data structures in R is the most efficient for lookup table? Thanks for your help. Best regards, Leon The

Re: [R] Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL best?

2008-11-15 Thread Hans W. Borchers
> Dear all, > >Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL? I'd like to set > up a lookup table, which could be accomplished by HASH if using PERL. > Which of the data structures in R is the most efficient for lookup > table? > Thanks for your help. > > Best regards, > Leon The regular

Re: [R] Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL best?

2008-11-15 Thread Duncan Temple Lang
You could use new.env(hash = TRUE, emptyenv()) and you can even specify an initial size. Seth Falcon has a package named dict that allows for different choices of hash function. D. Leon Yee wrote: Dear all, Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL? I'd like to set up a loo

Re: [R] how to join these two models?

2008-11-15 Thread Dieter Menne
Sara Mouro wrote: > > I have this 2 models that fit to my data: > > M3varI <- update (M3, weights=varIdent(form= ~ 1|SITE)) > > M3AR1<-update(M3,correlation=corAR1()) > > How can I put them toghether in one final model? > > This looks like lme in package nlme, but it is pure guesswork, sin

[R] how to join these two models?

2008-11-15 Thread Sara Mouro
Dear R users, I have this 2 models that fit to my data: M3varI <- update (M3, weights=varIdent(form= ~ 1|SITE)) M3AR1<-update(M3,correlation=corAR1()) The first one, updates my M3 so that I can account for the variance structure of random erros. The second one, updates my M3 so that I can ac

Re: [R] How to calculate?

2008-11-15 Thread Erik Iverson
see ?tapply, for example: tapply(df$x, df$z, mean) Might also look at ?ave and ?aggregate depending on what form you want the result to have... or the "plyr" package on CRAN. Lots of options! stat4u wrote: hi, How can i calculate means with catergory of variable... like x yz 2 3

[R] How to calculate?

2008-11-15 Thread stat4u
hi, How can i calculate means with catergory of variable... like x yz 2 3y 3 4n 1 2y 6 3n 9 1y 2 2n 8 3y i want to get mean of x and y with respective to its category(y,n) thanks... regards, Muhammad Faisal -- View this message in context: htt

[R] warning : increasing the PDF version to 1.3

2008-11-15 Thread June Kim
What does the warning mean? In dev.off() : increasing the PDF version to 1.3 __ R-help@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-help PLEASE do read the posting guide http://www.R-project.org/posting-guide.html and provide comme

[R] creating matrices from vectors

2008-11-15 Thread James Rudge
If I have 4 vectors (a, b, c, and d) each of length 1000, how do I then create 1000 two by two matrices from these vectors, such that: myMatrix[i] = matrix(c(a[i],b[i],c[i],d[i]),2) Then I'd like to create a single vector containing the largest eigenvalues of each matrix? (Sorry I am quite

[R] Problems with rbind

2008-11-15 Thread tolga . i . uzuner
Dear R Users, A recent update on base packages on my R installation has introduced a problem to my code which did not exist before the update. The offending function is rbind, which fails where it was working just fine before the update. I have two zoo objects, foo and bar, indexed by class D

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Dalgaard
john polo wrote: According to your setup, the system should believe that you have an ~8 inch screen (800/96) and >the default X11 window is 7x7 inches so there _should_ be plenty of room, but some systems try >to outsmart the user and use the actual physical dimensions, which could be smaller (hi

[R] Lattice: groups and no groups with panel.superpose

2008-11-15 Thread Robert Buitenwerf
Dear R listers, I am trying to create a lattice plot with independent regression lines per group for each panel, plus one overall regression line per panel. I succeed in having the separate regression lines for each group per panel, but I can't figure out how to add the overall regression line o

[R] r2html output gives "NULL"

2008-11-15 Thread slurpy
Win xp sp2, R v2.7.1, R2HTML v1.59 Hi. I have tried searching this extensively but to no avail. While using the R2HTML package, everytime I use HTMLStart() followed by HTML.title or HTML functions, I get a "NULL" in the output. For instance, > HTMLStart(outdir='dir name',filename="file",exten

[R] PostScript File Dimensions

2008-11-15 Thread Rodrigo Aluizio
Hi List, here I go again. Well I need to save plotted objects as .eps using the postscript() function, well I can do that but all resulting object are perfect squared dimensions (x = y). I need a rectangular output something like x = 2y dimension. Is it possible? The I’m new to R and postscript im

[R] Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL best?

2008-11-15 Thread Leon Yee
Dear all, Which data structure in R can mimic hash in PERL? I'd like to set up a lookup table, which could be accomplished by HASH if using PERL. Which of the data structures in R is the most efficient for lookup table? Thanks for your help. Best regards, Leon ___

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread Megha Patnaik
My xorg.conf has "Configured Monitor" as opposed to "Generic Monitor". Here is the relevant portion of my xorg.conf: Section "Device" Identifier"Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)" Driver"intel" EndSection Section "Mo

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread john polo
megha patnaik wrote: > Hi John, > an R problem, but an X11 bug in Ubuntu. This is evident from plot(rnorm(10)) > failing to perform. If you are seeing this, then it is because X11 does not > automatically detect Intel graphic cards. The solution is to edit your > xorg.conf file, changing it to some

Re: [R] ggplot2 - two or more axis

2008-11-15 Thread David Hajage
Thank you very much for the answer. I have seen very often the number of subject at risk on survival graph (see my pdf file). It is very easy to plot the curve with geom_step(), but is there a better way to show the number of subjects at risk at each time ? Thank you for your advice. 2008/11/14

Re: [R] configuring graphics device in Linux

2008-11-15 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Erik Iverson wrote: You should begin by telling us what you did to produce the result. That way we can tell if it's something in your R commands or not. If you give us step by step instructions to reproduce the problem (with simulated data, or a dataset distributed with R), it becomes much ea

Re: [R] GAM and Poisson distribution

2008-11-15 Thread Ben Bolker
sallyr wrote: > > Hi -I'm running a GAM with 7 explanatory variables with a Poisson error > structure. All of the variables are continuous so I'm getting error > messages in R. > > cod.fall.full.gam.model<-gam(Kept.CPUE~s(HOUR)+s(LAT_dec)+s(LONG_dec)+s(meantemp_C)+s(meandepth_fa)+s(change_d

Re: [R] licensing of R packages

2008-11-15 Thread Berwin A Turlach
G'day Duncan, On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:24:03 -0500 Duncan Murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Moreover, if you write a C/C++ program that makes use of GNU > >> extensions, you'd be in violation of the GPL if you were to > >> distribute it without GPLing it. Even the FSF doesn't believe > >> th