[Rd] TCITex and R

2005-08-22 Thread Mark.Bravington
Several times my packages have fallen foul of the latex check at the uploading-to-CRAN stage, creating extra work for Kurt Hornik. I've never bothered trying to get latex working on my own packages (happy with vanilla help) but am told that "latex is the closest thing to a syntax checker for Rd fil

[Rd] pos option to function 'library'

2005-08-31 Thread Mark.Bravington
At the moment, the 'pos' argument to 'library' defaults to 2. Would it be possible to change this default to something functionally like the following? pos= if( is.null( pos.expr <- getOption( 'library.pos.default.expr'))) 2 else eval( pos.expr) The proposal is fully back-compatible in that 'pos'

[Rd] Rd and guillemots

2005-09-15 Thread Mark.Bravington
First of all, thanks to those who've set up R to work so smoothly with Miktex-- even a total Latex bunny like me got it to work instantly, so that for the first time I'm able to run my Rd files through the Latex side of RCMD CHECK. Now the question/buglet. One of my Rd files contains the following

Re: [Rd] external pointers

2005-12-11 Thread Mark.Bravington
I don't entirely follow Ross's outline below (?how does the R object 'opaque' get to feature in the call to 'docompute'?), but I have written large amounts of R-linked Delphi code with persistent Delphi objects, using only the '.C' interface and no external pointers. You might find this useful if y

Re: [Rd] external pointers

2005-12-11 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Simon Thanks for that... see below for my feeble counterblasts! (And two questions.) > Mark, > > On Dec 12, 2005, at 7:48 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (i)The first '.C' call uses Delphi code to allocate (using Delphi's > > own memory manager) and set up a persistent object that R >

[Rd] sealed namespaces and lockEnvironment

2006-01-01 Thread Mark.Bravington
Dear R-devel I'm experimenting with easy-to-use ways for a package maintainer to modify a"live" package-- i.e. while it's loaded & in use. One difficulty is that packages with namespaces are usually sealed with 'lockEnvironment', which means you can't add/remove objects. After some effort, I've

[Rd] Problem installing from source: no CONTENTS files

2006-01-08 Thread Mark.Bravington
I've just had the error below while trying to install a package from source under R2.2.1 and Windows XP. I recall encountering this sporadically in the past. It is a pretty confusing message and took me quite some time to figure out; I've seen queries about it on the R site search, but couldn't fin

Re: [Rd] Problem installing from source: no CONTENTS files

2006-01-09 Thread Mark.Bravington
> Brian D. Ripley, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > This will only happen if you installed R without HTML help > and then install a package *with* HTML help *and* do so into > a non-standard directory. That seems an arcane thing to do: > why do you want HTML help for some packages and not

Re: [Rd] NAMESPACE Q: does import as exist?

2006-02-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
> On 2/7/2006 8:48 PM, Seth Falcon wrote: > > Is there a way to rename a function when importing it? I > want to say, > > "import yourFunc from Foo as myFunc" in the NAMESPACE file. > I don't think Seth's facility exists yet, but it has occurred to me previously that it would be useful when yo

[Rd] broken link to new features in R-devel: no NEWS file

2010-07-20 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi The link from CRAN to "new features in R-devel" hasn't been working for a few days. Specifically, there is no NEWS file in https://svn.r-project.org/R/trunk/, though there is an ONEWS. The link is in the "Source code for all platforms" subwindow, where it says: Daily snapshots of current pa

Re: [Rd] No RTFM?

2010-08-23 Thread Mark.Bravington
It seems as if the original point has been buried a bit here. So I'd just like to briefly agree with what Ted Harding said about guidelines, and then return to RTFM etc. The price paid for writing the best bit of software in the world, is that people want to use it. Some of those people will be

[Rd] RCMD CHECK and non-methods

2010-08-24 Thread Mark.Bravington
I recently moved a function 'subset.with.warning' into the 'mvbutils' package (a version not yet on CRAN). When I tried RCMD CHECK, I got this warning: * checking S3 generic/method consistency ... WARNING subset: function(x, ...) subset.with.warning: fu

Re: [Rd] RCMD CHECK and non-methods

2010-08-31 Thread Mark.Bravington
Thanks for those (very different!) responses. I was about to respond to Martin's question about doco amendments, when I saw Simon's reply. Case 1: If Martin completely prevails, then I guess the appropriate amendment to the documentation would be in R-extensions, section 1.3.1 "Checking packag

Re: [Rd] introspective capabilities

2010-09-01 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Christophe You could also look at the 'foodweb' function in package 'mvbutils'-- and specifically 'callers.of'. It should do just what you want, though you do have to tell it which environments to search through. bye Mark -- Mark Bravington CSIRO Mathematical & Information Sciences Marine

Re: [Rd] a small suggestion for improving the building of packages

2010-09-16 Thread Mark.Bravington
FWIW, the package-building tools in the 'mvbutils' package-- see ?mvbutils.packaging.tools-- are supposed to alleviate much of this (provided of course you are willing to sign up to MY view of the universe...). Building a "legal" package out of existing code from scratch takes me less than 5 min

Re: [Rd] How to debug reference classes?

2011-04-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
'mtrace' will work with reference classes, at least after an object is instantiated. I'm not familiar with the guts of reference classes, but the following quick experiment was successful.. If you run the example in '?ReferenceClasses' up to & including this line : xx <- mEditor$new(data = xMat

Re: [Rd] How to debug reference classes?

2011-04-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
Righto, thanks-- got it. When it comes to debugging, I'm no purist-- the 'debug' package has to work thru all sorts of undocumented "features" in R, so those of a sensitive disposition are advised _never_ to look at its internal code! Seems like the following works for mtracing refclass methods

Re: [Rd] Reproducible use case for R crash after updating R

2011-05-17 Thread Mark.Bravington
The ability to do a "wounded load", when a proper load() can't be completed but you still want as much of the stuff as possible, would be very useful. In my experience, the trouble has invariably been a missing namespace, eg (as in Henrik's example) from a package that can't be found. That's OK

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-04 Thread Mark.Bravington
I may have misunderstood, but: Please could we have an optional installation that does not *not* byte-compile base and recommended? Reason: it's not possible to debug byte-compiled code-- at least not with the 'debug' package, which is quite widely used. I quite often end up using 'mtrace' on

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
Thank you Duncan for those reassurances. I still have a couple of questions, as below, but there was definitely some good news for me in your replies: - IIUC , the "source" attribute will still be available for everything, provided R_KEEP_PKG_SOURCE=yes (I am not so worried about srcrefs) -

[Rd] Developing with Namespaces (was: Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel)

2011-07-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Kasper FWIW, the package development and maintenance support in 'mvbutils' makes it trivial to work with namespaced packages, even at the earliest stages of development. It's completely easy to add and remove functions to/from the namespace (and the exported visible bit) while the package is

Re: [Rd] Overwriting imported function in another package

2011-08-08 Thread Mark.Bravington
[Jeroen Ooms wrote:] > > I am running into a limitation of the grid::grid.newpage function, for > > which I would like to overwrite this function > > with a slightly modified one. Hopefully this is a temporary working > > solution until the package gets updated. I found a > > way to overwrite t

Re: [Rd] Please explain your workflow from R code -> package -> R code -> package

2011-09-10 Thread Mark.Bravington
I create & maintain all my packages using the 'mvbutils' package. Documentation in plain-text format (not Rd) is stored along with each function definition--- so when you edit your function, its doco is right there too, and it looks like proper documentation, not code-comments or quasi-Latex. Th

[Rd] grep problem in R-devel 2.14 r57004

2011-09-15 Thread Mark.Bravington
Problem below with PCRE grep in R-devel; works fine in R-patched. (Unless there's been an absolutely massive change in rules for updated PCRE version 8.13; jeez I hope not) > grep( '[.][.]', '', perl=TRUE) Error in grep("[.][.]", "", perl = TRUE) : invalid regular expression '[.][.]' In additi

Re: [Rd] Finding inter-function dependencies within a package

2011-09-29 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Keith 'foodweb' and friends in the 'mvbutils' package should do what you're after. For example, I just tried this on the 'debug' package: > ff <- foodweb( where=asNamespace( 'debug')) > # Now either just eyeball the dependency graph that 'foodweb' produces, or > more formally: > callers.o

Re: [Rd] [RE: why does parent.frame() cycle when called from inside capture.output()?]

2016-12-12 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Frederik Goodo, glad you found mvbutils::mvb.parent.frame useful. I had forgotten that it's in mvbutils rather than debug package. This all dates back about 15 years... To be fair, I don't think R's behaviour with duplicated-but-aliased frames in the call stack is a "bug"--- everything norm

Re: [Rd] can we override "if" in R?

2017-03-05 Thread Mark.Bravington
I can't comment for Da, but one example where the ability to make 'if' generic would have been desirable: A couple of years ago I wrote S3 classes and methods for 1-byte integers and logicals stored as raw vectors, in order to handle massive amounts of genetic data (by the standards of the day)

Re: [Rd] ':::' call

2013-08-28 Thread Mark.Bravington
<< Extracted from email trail below >> > And as a potential user of your package, I don't want you to > use ::: if you don't have control over the other package, > because its author might unwittingly change it in a way that > causes me to get incorrect results. > > If you want to use :::, go

Re: [Rd] type.convert and doubles

2014-04-29 Thread Mark.Bravington
[...snip...] Martin Maecher wrote: > > I have now committed svn rev 65507 --- to R-devel only for now --- > > the above: exact = NA is the default > > and it means "warning + FALSE". > > > > Interestingly, I currently get 5 identical warnings for one > > simple call, so there seems clearly ro

Re: [Rd] debuggingState() analogous to tracingState() ?

2014-10-02 Thread Mark.Bravington
Just FYI: the 'debug' package lets you set a stop-before-exit, and of course the ability to adjust breakpoints while the function is running. You can get the current return value via 'get.retval()'. There is some rough-edged support for debugging scripts, too. Mark Mark Bravington CSIRO CMIS M

Re: [Rd] Unexpected behavior of identical() with language objects

2014-10-29 Thread Mark.Bravington
[See below for full email trail-- Outlook has beaten me into submission] > I ran into this and found the result very surprising: > identical( quote({ a }), quote({ a }) ) # FALSE > <<...>> > -Winston > > Yes, looks like srcrefs are to blame: > > > > x <- quote({ a }) > > y <- quote({ a }) > > >

[Rd] S4 summary method not being called (VGAM)

2012-01-09 Thread Mark.Bravington
The symptom triggering this email is that an S4 summary method sometimes refuses to be invoked, even when a package is explicitly loaded, if the first load of the package is implicit. It may or may not be specific to 'summary' methods and/or the 'VGAM' package. I've sent to R-devel because (i) i

[Rd] parse( connection) and source-keeping

2012-01-11 Thread Mark.Bravington
In R <= 2.13.x, calling 'parse( con)' where 'con' is a connection, 'options( keep.source)' is TRUE, and default 'srcfile' would preserve the source. In R >= 2.14.1, it doesn't. > tf <- tempfile() > options( keep.source=TRUE) > texto <- c( 'function() { # comment', '}') > parse( text=texto) exp

Re: [Rd] CRAN policies

2012-03-29 Thread Mark.Bravington
I'm concerned this thread is heading the wrong way, towards techno-fixes for imaginary problems. R package-building is already encumbered with a huge set of complicated rules, and more instructions/rules eg for metadata would make things worse not better. RCMD CHECK on the 'mvbutils' package ge

Re: [Rd] CRAN policies

2012-03-31 Thread Mark.Bravington
Herewith comments on some replies to my earlier post. To avoid burying my own points, I'll briefly restate my views (which may have evolved a bit): - We should not be concocting yet more complicated rules to solve imaginary problems; - RCMD CHECK should have (i) Notes, which are up to the ind

Re: [Rd] tcltk freezing using MS Windows for R-2.14+

2012-12-18 Thread Mark.Bravington
Just a caveat about Sys.sleep() etc style fixes: I've had long-standing problems with tcltk on Windows in my 'debug' package-- i.e. for at least 7 years. The typical syndrome is that the debug window appears just as an empty frame, which has to be manually minimized/maximized/restored (or some

[Rd] bug in help: R-devel pre 3.0

2013-01-28 Thread Mark.Bravington
G'day There's a bug in R-devel help() when something is documented in multiple places. Eg > library( gmp) > ?apply The browser window then contains: Error in length(packages):"Help on topic '%s' was found in the following package:" : NA/NaN argument Also, the *next* time 'help' or '?' is

[Rd] internal and external debugging [was: [R] step by step debugger in R?]

2009-05-27 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hello all I'm coming late to this discussion, and my comments may now be beside the point-- but I have been intending to ask what people think of the pros & cons of internal and external (e.g. 'debug' package) debuggers. When I wrote 'debug', the internal debugger just didn't do what I wanted,

Re: [Rd] Monkey patching +.POSIXt

2009-09-09 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Hadley > This summer I've been working with a grad student to bring more of the > date time classes from JODA (http://joda-time.sourceforge.net/) into > R. To make these work seamlessly with existing date time objects, we > need to patch +.POSIXt. (The ruby community uses the term > monkey-patc

Re: [Rd] Monkey patching +.POSIXt

2009-09-09 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hmmm... 'assign.to.base( "+.POSIXt", myfun)' works on my system (2.9.1 patched on Windows, at time of writing). Could be the 'mvbutils' version, I guess. What happened when you tried it? And what if you did 'getAnywhere( "+.POSIXt")' afterwards? I was wrong about where '+.POSIXt' lives, though-

[Rd] post-installation startup problem with 2.10.0

2009-10-15 Thread Mark.Bravington
I've just installed R2.10.0 v50082, and found the problem described below the first few times I launched it. Did not occur with v49613 (the previous most recent version I have). The problem has now gone away, and is therefore non-reproducible, but there seems to be something up with parameter pr

[Rd] Bug with .First in R 2.10

2009-10-18 Thread Mark.Bravington
Under R2.10.0 beta (2009-10-14 r50082) my .First does not run reliably. I reported this last week, but not reproducibly, and it seemed to go away, so I thought it might be installation-related. But it has now recurred reproducibly, at least on my machine. The website ftp://ftp.csiro.au/MarkBrav

Re: [Rd] Bug with .First in R 2.10

2009-10-18 Thread Mark.Bravington
I started the same version of R in my usual starting directory (where there's a larger .RData, whose .First is running OK right now) and then did save( .First, file=<>) I'm not sure exactly where the .First came from before that; I use a couple of different machines and (in the runup to 2.10) a

[Rd] weird warning in [.data.frame with 2.10

2009-10-18 Thread Mark.Bravington
I'm getting the following warnings under 2.10 v50082 but not v49613 >> In addition: Warning messages: 1: In `[.data.frame`(df, -(1:nrow(df)), , >> drop = FALSE) : named arguments other than 'drop' are discouraged 5: In `[.data.frame`(object, !omit, , drop = FALSE) : >> named arguments other th

[Rd] parse_Rd and/or lazyload problem

2009-10-29 Thread Mark.Bravington
I'm encountering problems when making lazy-loadable databases of the output from 'parse_Rd'. The lazy-load database is of seemingly limitless size when I try to reload it... Admittedly I am using functions that I'm not really supposed to use, which is why this isn't a bug report, but there does

Re: [Rd] parse_Rd and/or lazyload problem

2009-10-30 Thread Mark.Bravington
The errors are generated inside lazyLoadDBfetch; I don't call object.size, so unfortunately that's not the issue (unless o.s. is called somewhere inside the .Primitive for lazyLoadDBfetch). > > I'm encountering problems when making lazy-loadable databases of the output > > from 'parse_Rd'. The

Re: [Rd] parse_Rd and/or lazyload problem

2009-10-31 Thread Mark.Bravington
> Does this happen in R-patched? I've seen similar errors in 2.10.0, but > not in a current build. Yes, still there in R-patched. (Still haven't got to your code, this was in > mine. I'm reluctant to spend time on code that is messing with > internals, because you might be using things in a way

Re: [Rd] parse_Rd and/or lazyload problem

2009-11-01 Thread Mark.Bravington
> Okay, then we both agree we should drop it. > Duncan Murdoch No we don't. I can't provide a functioning mvbutils, or debug, until this is resolved. I am trying to be a good citizen and prepare reproducible bug reports-- e.g. the 3 line example. It would be quicker for me to write some ugly h

Re: [Rd] parse_Rd and/or lazyload problem

2009-11-03 Thread Mark.Bravington
> Sorry. What I thought you said was that you had spent several hours > on it and didn't want to spend more time on it. I've told you I > don't want to work on it either. > > If there is no way to trigger this bug without using internals, then > it has not been demonstrated to be a bug in R.

Re: [Rd] parse_Rd and/or lazyload problem

2009-11-04 Thread Mark.Bravington
Great-- thanks for the info. For now, hopefully I can get the behaviour I want by sticking a .Call( 'R_lazyLoadDBflush'...) [as per 'detach'] before calling 'lazyLoad'. Seems to work on my examples, but please let me know if you don't think it'll work generally-- if not, I could presumably crea

Re: [Rd] Best style to organize code, namespaces

2010-02-22 Thread Mark.Bravington
Ben-- FWIW my general take on this is: - Namespaces solve the collision issue. - Style 2 tends to make for unreadably long code inside Foo, unless the subfunctions are really short. - Style 3 is too hard to work with - So I usually use a variant on style 1: ### Style 4 (m

Re: [Rd] R CMD check tells me 'no visible binding for globalvariable ', what does it mean?

2010-04-15 Thread Mark.Bravington
Speaking as a copious generator of CMD CHECK notes: I don't see that there's a problem to be solved here-- i.e. I don't see why it's worth changing good code or adding conventions just to circumvent CMD CHECK notes. (If the code is bad, of course it should be changed!) As the original poster sai

Re: [Rd] Developer work cycle

2007-03-29 Thread Mark.Bravington
Couple of quick points: FYI1: the 'mtrace' function in the 'debug' package does let you trace hidden S3 methods (though it lacks the edit= argument). FYI2: In my own alpha-version of 'mvbutils', I am able to do live edits of code in (selected) installed packages, including adding & deleting fun

[Rd] rbind.data.frame changes

2007-06-27 Thread Mark.Bravington
Dear R-devel Pre-2.5.0, 'rbind.data.frame(x,y,...)' would set the class of each column to be the class of that column in 'x'. This has changed now, because 'rbind.data.frame' first deletes any zero-row arguments; so if 'x' is a zero-row DF, the classes will be set to those in 'y'. This breaks my

[Rd] rbind.data.frame: bug?

2007-07-06 Thread Mark.Bravington
Consider the following, which is new behaviour under R 2.5+: > df1 <- data.frame( x=2, y='cat') > df2 <- data.frame( x=3, y='dog') > rbind( df1[-1,], df2)$y == rbind( df1, df2)[-1,]$y Error in Ops.factor(rbind(df1[-1, ], df2)$y, rbind(df1, : Level sets of factors are different T

[Rd] slow load() in R2.6.0

2007-10-10 Thread Mark.Bravington
I'm encountering excruciatingly slow load times for character vectors in R 2.6.0-- up to 30sec for a 15K file that contains a no-attributes character vector of length ~1e4 and object size ~0.5MB. In R 2.5.1, repeated loads of the same set of files are near-instantaneous. The problem is proving tri

Re: [Rd] slow load() in R2.6.0

2007-10-11 Thread Mark.Bravington
Problem fixed by R-patched, thanks; see comments below. >On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I'm encountering excruciatingly slow load times for character vectors >> in R 2.6.0-- up to 30sec for a 15K file that contains a no-attributes >> character vector of length ~1e4 and object

Re: [Rd] isOpen on closed connections

2007-11-15 Thread Mark.Bravington
I'd support a change, to having a closed-but-not-invalid status for a 'rw' connection, and to have a usable 'isOpen'. The suggestion of relying on user-code to always "housekeep" after calling 'close', eg by setting to NULL, seems a bit risky as a guideline for R as a whole (one can never tell what

Re: [Rd] regexp with [:upper:] (PR#11032)

2008-03-24 Thread Mark.Bravington
Aaargh, sorry. I thought it might be to do with Australian English... Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > That is correct: I suspect you meant the character class [[:upper:]] > >> grep( '[[:upper:]]', letters, val=TRUE) character(0) > > You asked for matches amongst :upper:, and that is what you got. > A

[Rd] changed behaviour of 'get' in 2.8.0: request for unchange

2008-10-23 Thread Mark.Bravington
There is an unannounced and non-backwards-compatible change to the behaviour of 'get' in R2.8.0. 'get'ting a missing value now causes an error, whereas hitherto it's just returned a "missing" object. For example, in R2.8.0 this happens: test> getto <- function( x) get( 'x', sys.frame(1)) test>

Re: [Rd] changed behaviour of 'get' in 2.8.0: request for unchange

2008-10-24 Thread Mark.Bravington
Thanks both > The other item that might have a relationship to this > is the ability to a copy an object without evaluating it. This can't be > done entirely in R but can be done in C code from R: > http://tolstoy.newcastle.edu.au/R/e2/devel/07/09/.html > For me, copying is even more importa

Re: [Rd] Two minor escaping issues using \preformatted{....} in Rd format

2008-11-06 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Peter I've recently run into very similar phenomena, not just in \preformatted. After extensive experimentation, I've found some ugly but effective workarounds. The Rd problems can occur *after* either a backslash or a left brace; that's a necessary but not sufficient condition, as they only

Re: [Rd] Locating MiKTeX

2008-11-10 Thread Mark.Bravington
I've recently had a very similar experience to Spencer. The MikTex project page assumes you know what you want; I don't, so it seemed best to download the whole thing. Ouch. Would it be straightforward for Duncan Murdoch to add some brief instructions on "what bit of MikTex to get" to the excel

Re: [Rd] package development

2008-12-11 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Terry I suspect many people struggle with similar issues. The new version of mvbutils contains a number of routines that facilitate creation & maintenance of a package, hopefully through its entire life-cycle: from "documenting your own stuff for personal use", through "giving out semi-docu

Re: [Rd] [Fwd: Re: [R] Randomly remove condition-selected rows from a matrix]

2009-01-02 Thread Mark.Bravington
This is a recurring problem and from previous correspondence it seems unlikely that "sample" itself will ever be changed (and having myself been on the wrong end of a number of non-back-compatible changes in R, that's fine with me!). To forestall future confusion, my suggestion is to add a funct

Re: [Rd] question

2009-03-06 Thread Mark.Bravington
[ivo welch wrote:] > The syntax for returning multiple arguments does not strike me as > particularly appealing. would it not possible to allow syntax like: > > f= function() { return( rnorm(10), rnorm(20) ) } > (a,d$b) = f() > FWIW, my own solution is to define a "multi-assign operator":

[Rd] suggestion/request: install.packages and unnecessary file modifications

2009-03-10 Thread Mark.Bravington
Dear R-devel When 'install.packages' runs, it updates all html files in all packages. Mostly, there seems to be no actual change to the html file contents, but the date/time does change. This has causing been me a bit of trouble, because I keep synchronized versions of R on several different ma

Re: [Rd] [R] Function hints

2006-06-19 Thread Mark.Bravington
[This is not about the feasibility of a "hints" function-- which would be incredibly useful, but perhaps very very hard to do-- but about some of the other documentation issues raised in Hadley's post and in Duncan's reply] WRTO documentation & code together: for several years, I've successfully u

Re: [Rd] An update method for lists?

2006-09-19 Thread Mark.Bravington
> > On 9/19/06, Gabor Grothendieck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Perhaps it should have another name, be made generic and > extended to > > functions in which case it would work on the formal arguments. e.g. > > > >read.table.comma <- modify(read.table, list(sep = ",")) > > > > would retur

Re: [Rd] Am I missing something about debugging?

2007-01-04 Thread Mark.Bravington
It is possible to do some of these things with the 'debug' package-- the article in R-news 2003 #3 shows a few of the tricks. Suppose 'b1' calls 'c1'. If 'c1' exists as "permanent" function defined outside 'b1' (which I generally prefer, for clarity), then you can call 'mtrace( c1)' and 'c1' will b

Re: [Rd] Am I missing something about debugging?

2007-01-04 Thread Mark.Bravington
Hi Ross > Suppose 'b1' > > calls 'c1'. If 'c1' exists as "permanent" function defined outside > > 'b1' (which I generally prefer, for clarity), then you can call > > 'mtrace( c1)' and 'c1' will be invoked whenever it's called-- you > > don't have to first 'mtrace' 'b1' and then manually call

Re: [Rd] substitute creates an object whichprints incorrectly (PR#9427)

2007-01-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
> I think we should get rid of source attributes completely, > since they are no longer needed, but your comment still > applies to source references. We should strip them when code > gets modified. > > Duncan Murdoch I would be very concerned about losing source attributes-- it would break a