[Rd] plot(.xy) and add

2011-11-25 Thread Nick Sabbe
I am still an avid user of R base plotting and fortunately so are a lot of the interesting packages I use. However, to this day, I am still annoyed by the fact that many functions do not support the "add" parameter. In many cases, this is caused by xy.plot not supporting it (because the parame

[Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Pfaff, Bernhard Dr.
Dear R-Devel subscriber, I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance. Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been removed from CRAN, because it failed the checks and/or the dependencies are not any longer available. The package maintainer has been

Re: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 11-11-25 5:56 AM, Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. wrote: Dear R-Devel subscriber, I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance. Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been removed from CRAN, because it failed the checks and/or the dependencies are not any

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Terry Therneau
The ridge() function was put into the survival package as a simple example of what a user could do with penalized functions. It's not a "serious" function, and I'd be open to any suggestions for change. Actually, for any L2 penalty + Cox model one is now better off using coxme as the maximizatio

Re: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 25.11.2011 11:56, Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. wrote: Dear R-Devel subscriber, I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance. Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been removed from CRAN, because it failed the checks and/or the dependencies are not any

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/11/2011 9:10 AM, Terry Therneau wrote: The ridge() function was put into the survival package as a simple example of what a user could do with penalized functions. It's not a "serious" function, and I'd be open to any suggestions for change. Actually, for any L2 penalty + Cox model one is

Re: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Rainer M Krug
2011/11/25 Uwe Ligges > On 25.11.2011 11:56, Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. wrote: > >> Dear R-Devel subscriber, >> >> I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance. >> Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been >> removed from CRAN, because it failed the check

Re: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Uwe Ligges
On 25.11.2011 16:04, Rainer M Krug wrote: 2011/11/25 Uwe Ligges On 25.11.2011 11:56, Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. wrote: Dear R-Devel subscriber, I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance. Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been removed from CRA

Re: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Pfaff, Bernhard Dr.
On 25.11.2011 11:56, Pfaff, Bernhard Dr. wrote: > Dear R-Devel subscriber, > > I would like to raise a topic and ask for your advice, guidance. > Today on R-help an issue with a certain package popped up that has been > removed from CRAN, because it failed the checks and/or the dependencies are

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Terry Therneau
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 09:50 -0500, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > I think the general idea in formulas is that it is up to the user to > define the meaning of functions used in them. Normally the user has > attached the package that is working on the formula, so the package > author can provide usefu

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Michael Friendly
On 11/25/2011 9:10 AM, Terry Therneau wrote: The ridge() function was put into the survival package as a simple example of what a user could do with penalized functions. It's not a "serious" function, and I'd be open to any suggestions for change. Actually, for any L2 penalty + Cox model one is

Re: [Rd] Case: package removed from CRAN, but not orphaned

2011-11-25 Thread Joris Meys
I agree completely with Uwe on this one. Yet, the idea of Rainer is useful if you replace "remove the package" by "orphan the package". Some sort of automated orphanization. The package remains available that way if I understood it right, and can more easily be adopted by another developer that fee

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Terry Therneau
On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 10:42 -0500, Michael Friendly wrote: > Duncan provided one suggestion: make ridge() an S3 generic, and > rename ridge() > to ridge.coxph(), but this won't work, since you use ridge() inside > coxph() and survreg() to add a penalty term in the model formula. > Another idea m

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Terry Therneau wrote: > > On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 09:50 -0500, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> I think the general idea in formulas is that it is up to the user to >> define the meaning of functions used in them.  Normally the user has >> attached the package that is worki

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/11/2011 10:37 AM, Terry Therneau wrote: On Fri, 2011-11-25 at 09:50 -0500, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > I think the general idea in formulas is that it is up to the user to > define the meaning of functions used in them. Normally the user has > attached the package that is working on the for

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread John Fox
Hi Michael, I'll look into moving survival to suggests (this weekend, if I have time), but that doesn't address the more general issue. Best, John > -Original Message- > From: Michael Friendly [mailto:frien...@yorku.ca] > Sent: November-25-11 10:43 AM > To: Terry Therneau > Cc: r-devel@

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Terry Therneau
I like the idea of making the functions local, and will persue it. This issue has bothered me for a long time -- I had real misgivings when I introduced "cluster" to the package, but did not at that time see any way other than making it global. I might make this change soon in the ridge functio

Re: [Rd] How to deal with package conflicts

2011-11-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/11/2011 12:12 PM, Terry Therneau wrote: I like the idea of making the functions local, and will persue it. This issue has bothered me for a long time -- I had real misgivings when I introduced "cluster" to the package, but did not at that time see any way other than making it global. I

[Rd] Problem with & question about \preformatted in .Rd

2011-11-25 Thread Gray Calhoun
Hi, The "\preformatted" environment in Rd files doesn't seem to escape long sequences of backslashes properly when converted to pdf (LaTeX) documentation. I'm running R version 2.14 (from subversion, revision 57751) on Linux (RHEL). Here's an example from the command line: echo "\title{test}\n

[Rd] 32 vs 64 bit difference?

2011-11-25 Thread Terry Therneau
I've spent the last few hours baffled by a test suite inconsistency. The exact same library code gives slightly different answers on the home and work machines - found in my R CMD check run. I've recopied the entire directory to make sure it's really identical code. The data set and fit in q