Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-11 Thread Tobias Verbeke
- Original Message - > From: "Dirk Eddelbuettel" > To: "Jeroen Ooms" > Cc: "Simon Urbanek" , "r-devel@r-project.org" > , "Dirk Eddelbuettel" > > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 12:07:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Rd] binar

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-11 Thread Tobias Verbeke
Thank you, Hadley. It would be great indeed if this can be fixed! Kind regards, Tobias - Original Message - > From: "hadley wickham" > To: "Tobias Verbeke" > Cc: "r-devel@r-project.org" > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 8:32:17 PM > Subj

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-11 Thread Tim Taylor
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025, at 8:07 AM, Iñaki Ucar wrote: > On 10 February 2025 at 23:19, Jeroen Ooms wrote: >> some people prefer installing binaries via apt rather than >> install.packages(), which is all fine, but methods both have pros and >> cons. > > Some people prefer having all their binaries *man

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-11 Thread Stephanie Evert
> On 10 Feb 2025, at 17:23, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > What we (ie Detlef, Inaki, myself) myself do for the distros is fundamentally > different. Both are merits, both can coexist, but I like the added 'oomph' > you get by integrating properly with the distribution you deploy on. Ubuntu > i

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-11 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On 10 February 2025 at 23:19, Jeroen Ooms wrote: > some people prefer installing binaries via apt rather than > install.packages(), which is all fine, but methods both have pros and > cons. Some people prefer having all their binaries *managed* by apt/dnf, but still using install.packages() to tri

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 February 2025 at 23:19, Jeroen Ooms wrote: | The "naked binaries" are widely used, and therefore probably useful to | many folks, me included. Some standardisation on paths would be | incredibly useful, even if CRAN would not offer such binaries, other | repositories could. Sure, but naked

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Jeroen Ooms
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 9:48 PM Simon Urbanek wrote: > > > > On Feb 11, 2025, at 5:23 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > > > > On 10 February 2025 at 07:35, Carl Boettiger wrote: > > | Great discussion. > > | > > | Just to note another example I don't think was mentioned -- The r-universe > > | p

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Simon Urbanek
> On Feb 11, 2025, at 5:23 AM, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > On 10 February 2025 at 07:35, Carl Boettiger wrote: > | Great discussion. > | > | Just to note another example I don't think was mentioned -- The r-universe > | project also builds binaries for Linux (Ubuntu latest) https:// > |

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Hadley Wickham
> > > > The proprietary Package Manager (PPM) from Posit ( > https://packagemanager.posit.co/client/#/) does offer binary packages for > GNU/Linux, but the usage of this service is restricted in ways that go > against the principles of open source ( > https://posit.co/about/posit-service-terms-of-u

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 February 2025 at 07:35, Carl Boettiger wrote: | Great discussion.   | | Just to note another example I don't think was mentioned -- The r-universe | project also builds binaries for Linux (Ubuntu latest) https:// | docs.r-universe.dev/install/binaries.html (as well as other targets includi

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Lluís Revilla
Adding a different project to this discussion: Recently at the R repository working group a project to provide them for multiple distributions and toolchain was presented. See the documentation about what do they (Patrick Schratz) share: https://docs.r-package-binaries.devxy.io/index.html The exi

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Carl Boettiger
Great discussion. Just to note another example I don't think was mentioned -- The r-universe project also builds binaries for Linux (Ubuntu latest) https://docs.r-universe.dev/install/binaries.html (as well as other targets including wasm). It also provides binaries for Bioconductor and packages

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 at 14:09, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote: > > > On 10 February 2025 at 11:00, Tobias Verbeke wrote: > | Another argument to demonstrate the feasibility is the r2u project > | (https://github.com/eddelbuettel/r2u). It offers CRAN as Ubuntu Binaries, > but > | in order to build these U

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 10 February 2025 at 11:00, Tobias Verbeke wrote: | Another argument to demonstrate the feasibility is the r2u project | (https://github.com/eddelbuettel/r2u). It offers CRAN as Ubuntu Binaries, but | in order to build these Ubuntu Binaries it actually makes use of the binary R | packages built

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Tobias Verbeke
Hi Simon, Thank you for your prompt reply. - Original Message - > From: "Simon Urbanek" > To: "Tobias Verbeke" > Cc: "r-devel@r-project.org" > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 10:33:40 AM > Subject: Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linu

Re: [Rd] binary R packages for GNU/Linux

2025-02-10 Thread Simon Urbanek
Tobias, although we did discuss the possibility of extending the os/toolchain/architecture notation for binary packages beyond macOS, Linux was not necessarily on the list as Linux distributions have already established ways of providing binaries, so it does not seem productive to duplicate the