Re: [Rd] anova and intercept

2022-12-28 Thread peter dalgaard
Yes, that works fine too. It likely depends on what you want to show and to whom. The audience might be ready to see the equivalence between t-tests and anova(lm(...)) but not yet prepared for variance components. - Peter > On 27 Dec 2022, at 18:55 , Greg Snow <538...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Why

Re: [Rd] anova and intercept

2022-12-27 Thread Greg Snow
Why compute the differences manually when `aov` can do paired comparisons on this data as is: summary(aov(extra ~ factor(group) + Error(ID), data=sleep )) gives the same F and P values On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 3:32 AM Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > Good idea. > > On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 12:59 PM

Re: [Rd] anova and intercept

2022-12-27 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
Good idea. On Mon, Dec 26, 2022 at 12:59 PM peter dalgaard wrote: > > My usual advice on getting nonstandard F tests out of anova() is to fit the > models explicitly and compare. > > So how about this? > > fit1 <- lm(diff(extra,10) ~ 1, sleep) > fit0 <- update(fit1, ~ -1) > anova(fit0, fit1) > >

Re: [Rd] anova and intercept

2022-12-26 Thread peter dalgaard
My usual advice on getting nonstandard F tests out of anova() is to fit the models explicitly and compare. So how about this? fit1 <- lm(diff(extra,10) ~ 1, sleep) fit0 <- update(fit1, ~ -1) anova(fit0, fit1) -pd > On 26 Dec 2022, at 13:49 , Gabor Grothendieck wrote: > > Suppose we want to