Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-29 Thread François Pinard
[Spencer Graves] > [...] I, too, would like to see all the accents, Arabic script, > Chinese characters, etc., that other people want to use. However, we > must work with the world as it is, not as we would like it to be > (while devoting some time where appropriate to making the world > bett

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-29 Thread Spencer Graves
Hi, Paul: Earlier in this thread, Göran Broström wrote, "I really only need non-ascii to write the name of the author (me) correctly." The standard advice I got from a similar thread some time ago is to use the 'vanilla' Latin alphabet for key words, file and function names,

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-29 Thread Paul Gilbert
Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Peter Dalgaard wrote: > >> Paul Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> I've been following this thread hoping for the definitive answer... >>> >>> Peter Dalgaard wrote: >>> >>> Well, I do tend to think that we should just use utf, ass

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-29 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Peter Dalgaard wrote: Paul Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I've been following this thread hoping for the definitive answer... Peter Dalgaard wrote: Well, I do tend to think that we should just use utf, assuming that people have the relevant glyphs. If they don'

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-28 Thread Peter Dalgaard
Paul Gilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've been following this thread hoping for the definitive answer... > > Peter Dalgaard wrote: > > > Well, I do tend to think that we should just use utf, assuming that > > people have the relevant glyphs. If they don't, then they might get > > littl

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-28 Thread Paul Gilbert
I've been following this thread hoping for the definitive answer... Peter Dalgaard wrote: > Well, I do tend to think that we should just use utf, assuming that > people have the relevant glyphs. If they don't, then they might get > little hollow rectangles but so what? My problem is that I

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Peter Dalgaard
"Göran Broström" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Seriously, I thoght that unicode and utf8 would make problems like > this disappear, but obviously we may have to wait another 30 years. > > Thanks for all the input. > > George Well, I do tend to think that we should just use utf, assuming that pe

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Latchezar Dimitrov
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spencer Graves > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 2:01 PM > To: Hin-Tak Leung > Cc: Prof Brian Ripley; r-devel@r-project.org > Subject: Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files > > Hell

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Göran Broström
On 6/27/06, Spencer Graves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, Göran: > > Have you considered the German solution: "Goeran"? (e.g., Wuertz > for Würtz)? Yes, but really not; I like your p.s. solution better! > Be thankful that you aren't Russian or Greek or Arabic or Chinese

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
We describe how to use \enc for possible transliterations for exactly this purpose in the `Writing R Extensions' manual. In answer to Göran's question, yes latin1 is safer than UTF-8 for HTML browsers but neither are guaranteed to contain a glyph for ö in a font used e.g. in a Russian locale.

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
Spencer Graves wrote: > Hello, Göran: > > Have you considered the German solution: "Goeran"? (e.g., Wuertz > for Würtz)? > > Be thankful that you aren't Russian or Greek or Arabic or Chinese, > etc., for which there may be no standard transliteration into the Latin > alphabet. W

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Spencer Graves
Hello, Göran: Have you considered the German solution: "Goeran"? (e.g., Wuertz for Würtz)? Be thankful that you aren't Russian or Greek or Arabic or Chinese, etc., for which there may be no standard transliteration into the Latin alphabet. Sorry I can't be more

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Hin-Tak Leung
Göran Broström wrote: > On 6/27/06, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Göran Broström wrote: >> >>> I have been converting to utf8 from latin1, and this gives me >>> problems, some solved, but here is one unsolved: In my .Rd files, I >>> have included '\encoding{UT

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Göran Broström
On 6/27/06, Prof Brian Ripley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Göran Broström wrote: > > > I have been converting to utf8 from latin1, and this gives me > > problems, some solved, but here is one unsolved: In my .Rd files, I > > have included '\encoding{UTF-8}' at the top. Despite

Re: [Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006, Göran Broström wrote: I have been converting to utf8 from latin1, and this gives me problems, some solved, but here is one unsolved: In my .Rd files, I have included '\encoding{UTF-8}' at the top. Despite this, the HTML help pages contains 'content="text/html; charset=iso-88

[Rd] UTF-8 and .Rd files

2006-06-27 Thread Göran Broström
I have been converting to utf8 from latin1, and this gives me problems, some solved, but here is one unsolved: In my .Rd files, I have included '\encoding{UTF-8}' at the top. Despite this, the HTML help pages contains 'content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"', and my name is mangled. What can I do