Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-07 Thread Hervé Pagès
Hi, On 11-07-04 05:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: There was an R-core meeting the week before last, and various planned changes will appear in R-devel over the next few weeks. These are changes planned for R 2.14.0 scheduled for Oct 31. As we are sick of people referring to R-devel as '2.14' o

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-07 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 07/07/2011 3:38 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: Thank you Duncan for those reassurances. I still have a couple of questions, as below, but there was definitely some good news for me in your replies: - IIUC , the "source" attribute will still be available for everything, provided R_KEE

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-07 Thread Mark.Bravington
evel was that the distro would be byte-compiled already. Thanks Mark Bravington CSIRO CMIS Marine Lab Hobart Australia From: Duncan Murdoch [murdoch.dun...@gmail.com] Sent: 06 July 2011 21:43 To: Stephan Wahlbrink Cc: tobias.verb...@openanalytics.eu; Bravingto

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Steve Lianoglou
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Simon Urbanek wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: [aggressive trimming] >>> It seems like something a front end could do to make assignInNamespace >>> easier to use to make working with namespaces easier. >> >> Indeed I find this cha

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Jul 6, 2011, at 10:06 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Duncan Murdoch > wrote: >> On 11-07-06 9:25 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley >>> wrote: In the near future all packages will have a na

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 11-07-06 9:25 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley >>  wrote: >>> >>> In the near future all packages will have a name space.  If the sources >>> do >>> not contain one, a default NAMESPAC

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 11-07-06 9:25 AM, Kasper Daniel Hansen wrote: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: In the near future all packages will have a name space. If the sources do not contain one, a default NAMESPACE file will be added. This again will simplify the descriptions and also a lot

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Kasper Daniel Hansen
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: > In the near future all packages will have a name space.  If the sources do > not contain one, a default NAMESPACE file will be added. This again will > simplify the descriptions and also a lot of internal code.  Maintainers of > packages w

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 11-07-06 3:46 AM, Stephan Wahlbrink wrote: Duncan Murdoch wrote [2011-07-05 17:21]: On 05/07/2011 11:20 AM, Stephan Wahlbrink wrote: Dear developers, Duncan Murdoch wrote [2011-07-05 15:25]: On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: L.S. On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.a

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-06 Thread Stephan Wahlbrink
Duncan Murdoch wrote [2011-07-05 17:21]: On 05/07/2011 11:20 AM, Stephan Wahlbrink wrote: Dear developers, Duncan Murdoch wrote [2011-07-05 15:25]: > On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >> L.S. >> >> On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: >> > I may have misunderstood,

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/07/2011 1:45 PM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: On 07/05/2011 04:21 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 05/07/2011 10:17 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >> Dear Duncan, >> >> On 07/05/2011 03:25 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> > On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >> >> L.S. >> >> >> >> On 07/0

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Simon Urbanek
On Jul 5, 2011, at 1:45 PM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: > On 07/05/2011 04:21 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >> On 05/07/2011 10:17 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >>> Dear Duncan, >>> >>> On 07/05/2011 03:25 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: >>> > On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >>> >> L.S. >>> >> >>> >> O

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Tobias Verbeke
On 07/05/2011 04:21 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 05/07/2011 10:17 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: Dear Duncan, On 07/05/2011 03:25 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >> L.S. >> >> On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: >> > I may have misundersto

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Stephan Wahlbrink
Dear developers, Duncan Murdoch wrote [2011-07-05 15:25]: On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: L.S. On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: > I may have misunderstood, but: > > Please could we have an optional installation that does not*not* byte-compile base and recomm

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/07/2011 11:20 AM, Stephan Wahlbrink wrote: Dear developers, Duncan Murdoch wrote [2011-07-05 15:25]: > On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >> L.S. >> >> On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: >> > I may have misunderstood, but: >> > >> > Please could we ha

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/07/2011 10:17 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: Dear Duncan, On 07/05/2011 03:25 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: >> L.S. >> >> On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: >> > I may have misunderstood, but: >> > >> > Please could we have

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Tobias Verbeke
Dear Duncan, On 07/05/2011 03:25 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote: On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: L.S. On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: > I may have misunderstood, but: > > Please could we have an optional installation that does not*not* byte-compile base and recom

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 05/07/2011 6:52 AM, Tobias Verbeke wrote: L.S. On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: > I may have misunderstood, but: > > Please could we have an optional installation that does not*not* byte-compile base and recommended? > > Reason: it's not possible to debug byte-comp

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-05 Thread Tobias Verbeke
L.S. On 07/05/2011 02:16 AM, mark.braving...@csiro.au wrote: I may have misunderstood, but: Please could we have an optional installation that does not*not* byte-compile base and recommended? Reason: it's not possible to debug byte-compiled code-- at least not with the 'debug' package, whic

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-04 Thread Mark.Bravington
I may have misunderstood, but: Please could we have an optional installation that does not *not* byte-compile base and recommended? Reason: it's not possible to debug byte-compiled code-- at least not with the 'debug' package, which is quite widely used. I quite often end up using 'mtrace' on

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-04 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
On Mon, 4 Jul 2011, Martin Morgan wrote: On 07/04/2011 05:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: There was an R-core meeting the week before last, and various planned changes will appear in R-devel over the next few weeks. These are changes planned for R 2.14.0 scheduled for Oct 31. As we are sick of

Re: [Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-04 Thread Martin Morgan
On 07/04/2011 05:08 AM, Prof Brian Ripley wrote: There was an R-core meeting the week before last, and various planned changes will appear in R-devel over the next few weeks. These are changes planned for R 2.14.0 scheduled for Oct 31. As we are sick of people referring to R-devel as '2.14' or '

[Rd] Recent and upcoming changes to R-devel

2011-07-04 Thread Prof Brian Ripley
There was an R-core meeting the week before last, and various planned changes will appear in R-devel over the next few weeks. These are changes planned for R 2.14.0 scheduled for Oct 31. As we are sick of people referring to R-devel as '2.14' or '2.14.0', that version number will not be used