Dear Tomas, thank you so much for the explanation. Very helpful for myself, and
relevant for the wider context of packages using rwinlib! Andreas
Am 27.09.22, 20:18 schrieb "Tomas Kalibera" :
On 9/27/22 18:42, Blätte, Andreas wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> my apologies for a dull quest
On 9/27/22 18:42, Blätte, Andreas wrote:
Dear all,
my apologies for a dull question. I think I do understand that unnoticed
Internet access requires scrutiny and a more explicit approach.
But I am not sure how this would impact on the practice on many Windows
machines to download static libra
El mar., 27 sept. 2022 18:42, Blätte, Andreas
escribió:
> Dear all,
>
> my apologies for a dull question. I think I do understand that unnoticed
> Internet access requires scrutiny and a more explicit approach.
>
> But I am not sure how this would impact on the practice on many Windows
> machines
Dear all,
my apologies for a dull question. I think I do understand that unnoticed
Internet access requires scrutiny and a more explicit approach.
But I am not sure how this would impact on the practice on many Windows
machines to download static libraries from one of the rwinlib repositories?
El mar., 27 sept. 2022 4:22, Dirk Eddelbuettel escribió:
>
> Regarding 'system' libraries: Packages like stringi and nloptr download the
> source of, respectively, libicu or libnlopt and build a library _if_ the
> library is not found locally. If we outlaw this, more users may hit a
> brick
> wa
Ah, thats embarrassing. Thats a bug in how/where I handle lack of
connectivity, rather than me not doing it. I've just push a fix to the
github repo that now cleanly passes check with no internet connectivity
(much more stringent).
Using a canned file is a bit odd, because in the case where there
Regarding 'system' libraries: Packages like stringi and nloptr download the
source of, respectively, libicu or libnlopt and build a library _if_ the
library is not found locally. If we outlaw this, more users may hit a brick
wall because they cannot install system libraries (for lack of permissi
I would personally like something like an Android/iOS permissions
required/requested manifest document describing what the pkg needs
with R doing what it can to enforce said permissions. R would be
breaking some ground in this space, but it does that regularly in many
respects. Yes, I know I just 1
BTW: It is a good question whether packages that require internet access in
order to function at all should be flagged as such so they can be removed from
server installations. Let's say if a package provides an API for retrieving
stock quotes online and it's all it does then perhaps it does mak
> On 27/09/2022, at 11:02 AM, Gabriel Becker wrote:
>
> For the record, the only things switchr (my package) is doing internet wise
> should be hitting the bioconductor config file
> (http://bioconductor.org/config.yaml) so that it knows the things it need to
> know about Bioc repos/version
For the record, the only things switchr (my package) is doing internet wise
should be hitting the bioconductor config file (
http://bioconductor.org/config.yaml) so that it knows the things it need to
know about Bioc repos/versions/etc (at load time, actually, not install
time, but since install do
> On 27/09/2022, at 10:21 AM, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
>
> On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 23:07, Simon Urbanek
> wrote:
>>
>> Iñaki,
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand - system dependencies are an entirely different
>> topic and I would argue a far more important one (very happy to start a
>> discussion a
On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 23:07, Simon Urbanek
wrote:
>
> Iñaki,
>
> I'm not sure I understand - system dependencies are an entirely different
> topic and I would argue a far more important one (very happy to start a
> discussion about that), but that has nothing to do with declaring downloads.
>
Iñaki,
I'm not sure I understand - system dependencies are an entirely different topic
and I would argue a far more important one (very happy to start a discussion
about that), but that has nothing to do with declaring downloads. I assumed
your question was about large files in packages which p
Gabe,
that's a great example how **not** to do it and why it is such a bad idea.
icu4c is a system library, so it is generally available and it already includes
the data in the system library, so embedding data from an outdated version is
generally bad. I'm not sure why it should be needed in t
On Mon, 26 Sept 2022 at 21:50, Simon Urbanek
wrote:
>
> [snip]
> Sure, I fully agree that it would be a good first step, but I'm still waiting
> for examples ;).
Oh, you want me to actually name specific packages? I thought that
this was a well-established fact from your initial statement "I ful
Hi Simon,
The example of this I'm aware of that is most popular and widely used "in
the wild" is the stringi package (which is a dep of the widely used stringr
pkg) whose configure file downloads the ICU Data Library (icudt).
See https://github.com/gagolews/stringi/blob/master/configure#L5412
No
> On Sep 27, 2022, at 8:25 AM, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
>
> On Sat, 24 Sept 2022 at 01:55, Simon Urbanek
> wrote:
>>
>> Iñaki,
>>
>> I fully agree, this a very common issue since vast majority of server
>> deployments I have encountered don't allow internet access. In practice this
>> means that
On Sat, 24 Sept 2022 at 01:55, Simon Urbanek
wrote:
>
> Iñaki,
>
> I fully agree, this a very common issue since vast majority of server
> deployments I have encountered don't allow internet access. In practice this
> means that such packages are effectively banned.
>
> I would argue that not ev
Iñaki,
I fully agree, this a very common issue since vast majority of server
deployments I have encountered don't allow internet access. In practice this
means that such packages are effectively banned.
I would argue that not even (1) or (2) are really an issue, because in fact the
CRAN policy
On Fri, 23 Sept 2022 at 17:22, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
>
> [snip]
> Now, what if connection is suppressed during package load? There are
> basically three use cases out there:
>
> (1) The package requires additional files for the installation (e.g.
> the source code of an external library) that cannot b
Hi all,
I'd like to open this debate here, because IMO this is a big issue.
Many packages do this for various reasons, some more legitimate than
others, but I think that this shouldn't be allowed, because it
basically means that installation fails in a machine without Internet
access (which happen
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