Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-12-16 Thread Steve Haroz
Thank you for the update. Really helpful! Between this and the unicode changes, the next version will have a very positive impact on Windows users. Best, Steve On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 1:02 PM Tomas Kalibera wrote: > The default was now changed in R-devel to the local application data > (e.g. C:

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-12-13 Thread Tomas Kalibera
The default was now changed in R-devel to the local application data (e.g. C:\Users\username\AppData\Local), which should solve the issues with synchronization/backup/etc services and seems to be more in line with conventions for the OS. It is a hidden folder, to open in Windows explorer one ca

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-27 Thread Tomas Kalibera
On 7/26/21 1:44 AM, Steve Haroz wrote: Thanks Ben. I just sent a request for a bugzilla login. Jeroen chimed in earlier in support. Please note this has been reported, discussed and considered already, last time in PR#17842 (though proposing a different replacement for the default). I think

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Steve Haroz
Thanks Ben. I just sent a request for a bugzilla login. Jeroen chimed in earlier in support. Cheers, Steve __ R-devel@r-project.org mailing list https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/r-devel

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/07/2021 7:23 p.m., Ben Bolker wrote: Given (AFAICS) the absence of any actual R-core members chiming into the discussion here, and provided that you think that the issue has been sufficiently discussed, I would say the next step ("how to go

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Ben Bolker
Given (AFAICS) the absence of any actual R-core members chiming into the discussion here, and provided that you think that the issue has been sufficiently discussed, I would say the next step ("how to go about making the change") is to compose & s

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Steve Haroz
> So I would say that I still believe Microsoft doesn't give clear > guidance for this. Sure, there is some ambiguity on where MS would prefer these kinds of files. But what is clear is that the current location USER/Documents is causing a serious issue. And while we can all understand frustratio

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Avraham Adler
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 5:56 PM Duncan Murdoch wrote: > On 25/07/2021 9:54 a.m., Steve Haroz wrote: > >> Shouldn't it be in one of the AppData directories? > > > > I asked that same question on twitter. Here was a response > > (https://twitter.com/bmwiernik/status/1419033079495147522): > > * But

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/07/2021 9:54 a.m., Steve Haroz wrote: Shouldn't it be in one of the AppData directories? I asked that same question on twitter. Here was a response (https://twitter.com/bmwiernik/status/1419033079495147522): * But it's not for files that should be user-accessible, like a library (cf. Zote

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Steve Haroz
> That said I dont have a super strong opinion Neither do I. As long as it's somewhere other than USER/Documents > Another option would be to allow users to set the default library location > from within the windows installer (if you can't already). Currently, there is no option during install, b

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Gabriel Becker
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, 6:54 AM Steve Haroz wrote: > > Shouldn't it be in one of the AppData directories? > > I asked that same question on twitter. Here was a response > (https://twitter.com/bmwiernik/status/1419033079495147522): > * But it's not for files that should be user-accessible, like a >

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Gabor Grothendieck
At the very least it would be nice if there were a function that displays all the locations/paths currently being used in R. On Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 6:15 PM Steve Haroz wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to propose moving the default library install location on Windows > from: > %USERPROFILE%/Docume

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Steve Haroz
> Shouldn't it be in one of the AppData directories? I asked that same question on twitter. Here was a response (https://twitter.com/bmwiernik/status/1419033079495147522): * But it's not for files that should be user-accessible, like a library (cf. Zotero has preferences in AppData , but library f

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Duncan Murdoch
On 25/07/2021 6:17 a.m., Steve Haroz wrote: I think the benefits of fixing the default behavior easily outweigh the backward-compatibility and "there is a documented workaround" arguments. Exactly. This is an accessibility issue and a serious barrier for some beginners. It's possible to work ar

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Steve Haroz
> I think the benefits of fixing the default behavior easily outweigh the > backward-compatibility and "there is a documented workaround" > arguments. Exactly. This is an accessibility issue and a serious barrier for some beginners. It's possible to work around the error message, but users should

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-25 Thread Jeroen Ooms
On Sun, Jul 25, 2021 at 12:15 AM Steve Haroz wrote: > > Hello, > > I'd like to propose moving the default library install location on Windows > from: > %USERPROFILE%/Documents/R > to some other location such as: > %USERPROFILE%/R > > For many users the Documents folder is backed up or synchronize

Re: [Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-24 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
On 24 July 2021 at 15:53, Steve Haroz wrote: | I'd like to propose moving the default library install location on Windows from: | %USERPROFILE%/Documents/R | to some other location such as: | %USERPROFILE%/R Can you not set .Library.site in R_HOME/etc/Rprofile.site (or maybe setting R_LIBS_SITE

[Rd] Feature request: Change default library path on Windows

2021-07-24 Thread Steve Haroz
Hello, I'd like to propose moving the default library install location on Windows from: %USERPROFILE%/Documents/R to some other location such as: %USERPROFILE%/R For many users the Documents folder is backed up or synchronized. Installing libraries thrashes Documents, and it causes synchronizatio