On 04/04/2023 15:00, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing 32-bit host OS
On 05/04/2023 13.54, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 04/04/2023 17.42, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
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On 4/4/23 16:00, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Al
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 04/04/2023 17.42, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
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On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
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Daniel P. Berrangé write
On 04/04/2023 17.42, BALATON Zoltan wrote:
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
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On 4/4/23 16:00, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
Unrelated to KVM: Do you happen to know whether there are any problems when
running 32-bit guests with TCG with the mac99 or g3beige machine while
using qemu-system-ppc64 ?
We removed rfi support for 64bit machine in QEMU 2.7. Commit a2e71b28e8
("pp
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing 32-bit host OS s
On Tue, 4 Apr 2023, Cédric Le Goater wrote:
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On 4/4/23 16:00, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan
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On 4/4/23 16:00, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing
Unrelated to KVM: Do you happen to know whether there are any problems when
running 32-bit guests with TCG with the mac99 or g3beige machine while using
qemu-system-ppc64 ?
We removed rfi support for 64bit machine in QEMU 2.7. Commit a2e71b28e8
("ppc: Fix rfi/rfid/hrfi/... emulation"). So a m
On 05/02/2023 23.12, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time duri
Reinoud Zandijk writes:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 09:51:57AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 09:11:13AM +, Bernhard Beschow wrote:
>> > Are there any plans or ideas to support 128 bit architectures
>> > such as CHERI in the future? There is already a QEMU fork
>>
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 09:51:57AM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 09:11:13AM +, Bernhard Beschow wrote:
> > Are there any plans or ideas to support 128 bit architectures
> > such as CHERI in the future? There is already a QEMU fork
> > implementing CHERI for RISC V [
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 09:11:13AM +, Bernhard Beschow wrote:
>
>
> Am 30. Januar 2023 20:45:47 UTC schrieb "Alex Bennée"
> :
> >
> >Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >
Am 30. Januar 2023 20:45:47 UTC schrieb "Alex Bennée" :
>
>Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
>
>> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the
>>>
Am 19.02.23 um 12:27 schrieb Reinoud Zandijk:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:05:46PM +0100, Stefan Weil wrote:
So there still seems to be a certain small need for QEMU installers for
32-bit Windows: 170 users für 32 bit only, 339 users for both 32 and 64 bit,
5132 users for 64 bit only.
As you see
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:05:46PM +0100, Stefan Weil wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
> > Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
>
> Citing my previous mail:
>
>I now checked all downloads of the latests installers since 2022-12-30.
>
>
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 08:22:43AM -1000, Richard Henderson wrote:
> On 2/17/23 06:06, Reinoud Zandijk wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > > I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
> > >
> > > I don't think letting the status quo win by
在2023年2月17日二月 下午6:57，Thomas Huth写道：
> On 17/02/2023 18.43, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
>> (Cc'ing Huacai & Jiaxun).
>>
>> On 17/2/23 17:38, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>> On 2/17/23 11:47, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> I feel
On 17/02/2023 17.38, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
On 2/17/23 11:47, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
here.
Which 32
On 17/02/2023 18.43, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
(Cc'ing Huacai & Jiaxun).
On 17/2/23 17:38, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
On 2/17/23 11:47, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
I don't t
On 2/17/23 06:06, Reinoud Zandijk wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
here.
Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
NetBSD
(Cc'ing Huacai & Jiaxun).
On 17/2/23 17:38, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
On 2/17/23 11:47, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 05:06:42PM +0100, Reinoud Zandijk wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
> >
> > I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
> > here.
> >
> > Which 3
On 2/17/23 11:47, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
here.
Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
Whi
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
>
> I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
> here.
>
> Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
NetBSD runs on a bunch of 32 bit-only h
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 12:05:46PM +0100, Stefan Weil wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
> > Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
>
>
> Citing my previous mail:
>
>I now checked all downloads of the latests installers since 2022-12-30.
>
Stefan Weil writes:
> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>
>> Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
>
>
> Citing my previous mail:
>
>I now checked all downloads of the latests installers since 2022-12-30.
>
>qemu-w32-setup-20221230.exe – 509 differ
On 1/30/23 12:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
> Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
> contiguous integration tests, and considering that many OS vendors stopped
> shipping 32-bit variants of their OS distributions and most hardware from
> the past >10 years is capable
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
Citing my previous mail:
I now checked all downloads of the latests installers since 2022-12-30.
qemu-w32-setup-20221230.exe – 509 different IP addresses
qemu-w64-setup-
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
>
> I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
> here.
>
> Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
Which 32-bit hosts does Linux still pro
On 2/17/23 11:36, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
>
> I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
> here.
>
> Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
Hi Markus,
if the question is very very general, my opinion i
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 11:36:41AM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
>
> I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
> here.
>
> Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
>
> Please note my question is not abou
I feel the discussion petered out without a conclusion.
I don't think letting the status quo win by inertia is a good outcome
here.
Which 32-bit hosts are still useful, and why?
Please note my question is not about the cost of keeping them (or
savings from not keeping them), it's about the value
On 30/01/2023 20:45, Alex Bennée wrote:
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
contiguous integration tests, and
On 31/1/23 00:33, Richard Henderson wrote:
On 1/30/23 13:14, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
On 30/1/23 20:19, Richard Henderson wrote:
But I do question whether we need to support 64-bit guests on 32-bit
hosts at all.
Retaining 32-bit on 32-bit allows arm32 to emulate i686, which I
suspect, bu
On 1/30/23 13:14, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé wrote:
On 30/1/23 20:19, Richard Henderson wrote:
But I do question whether we need to support 64-bit guests on 32-bit hosts at
all.
Retaining 32-bit on 32-bit allows arm32 to emulate i686, which I suspect, but have no
proof, is the limit of what users
On 30/1/23 20:19, Richard Henderson wrote:
But I do question whether we need to support 64-bit guests on 32-bit
hosts at all.
Retaining 32-bit on 32-bit allows arm32 to emulate i686, which I
suspect, but have no proof, is the limit of what users actually want.
I presume you implicitly restric
Daniel P. Berrangé writes:
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
>> >
>> > Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
>> > contiguous integration tests, and considering that many OS
On 1/30/23 02:01, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
I vaguely recall someone mentioned problems with atomic ops in the past,
or was it 128-bit ints, caused implications for the codebase ?
TCG_OVERSIZED_GUEST, where 32-bit host running 64-bit guest cannot run the guest except in
round-robin mode. It's
On 30/01/2023 13.43, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 01:22:22PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
On 30/01/2023 13.01, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing 32-bit host OS s
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 01:22:22PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote:
> On 30/01/2023 13.01, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
> > > On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of pre
On 30/01/2023 13.01, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
contiguous integration tests, and considering that many OS
On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:47:02AM +, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
> >
> > Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
> > contiguous integration tests, and considering that many OS vendors stopped
> > shipping 32-bit v
On Mon, 30 Jan 2023 at 11:44, Thomas Huth wrote:
>
> Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
> contiguous integration tests, and considering that many OS vendors stopped
> shipping 32-bit variants of their OS distributions and most hardware from
> the past >10 y
Testing 32-bit host OS support takes a lot of precious time during the QEMU
contiguous integration tests, and considering that many OS vendors stopped
shipping 32-bit variants of their OS distributions and most hardware from
the past >10 years is capable of 64-bit, keeping the 32-bit support alive
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