Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-20 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 07:47:51PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote: > On 17/02/2023 16.59, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 04:55:49PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: > > > The cost/benefit tradeoff of dropping the platforms entirely > > is not obviously favourable when we don't

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-20 Thread Markus Armbruster
Paolo Bonzini writes: > Il ven 17 feb 2023, 19:47 Thomas Huth ha scritto: > >> On 17/02/2023 16.59, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 04:55:49PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: >> >> > The cost/benefit tradeoff of dropping the platforms entirely >> > is not obviously fa

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-20 Thread Markus Armbruster
Thomas Huth writes: > On 17/02/2023 16.06, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 02:26:31PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote: > ... >> I'm also not so comfortable dropping the only version of SLES that we >> explicitly target, when we don't know when their new major release >> will arrive.

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il ven 17 feb 2023, 19:47 Thomas Huth ha scritto: > On 17/02/2023 16.59, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 04:55:49PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: > > > The cost/benefit tradeoff of dropping the platforms entirely > > is not obviously favourable when we don't have clea

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Thomas Huth
On 17/02/2023 16.59, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 04:55:49PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: The cost/benefit tradeoff of dropping the platforms entirely is not obviously favourable when we don't have clear demand to bump the min versions of native packages, and the co

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Thomas Huth
On 17/02/2023 16.06, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 02:26:31PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote: ... I'm also not so comfortable dropping the only version of SLES that we explicitly target, when we don't know when their new major release will arrive. Let's hope that the next major

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 04:55:49PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote: > Thomas Huth writes: > > > Our distro support policy has been written with a best-effort > > estimation of what users and developers need. However, as we now > > know, the support for older long-term distributions can get really

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Markus Armbruster
Thomas Huth writes: > Our distro support policy has been written with a best-effort > estimation of what users and developers need. However, as we now > know, the support for older long-term distributions can get really > troublesome for upstream development, since it is for example close > to im

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 02:26:31PM +0100, Thomas Huth wrote: > Our distro support policy has been written with a best-effort > estimation of what users and developers need. However, as we now > know, the support for older long-term distributions can get really > troublesome for upstream development

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 03:44:23PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote: > On 2/17/23 14:26, Thomas Huth wrote: > > Note: These changes mean that openSUSE is not considered as supported > > anymore (since version 15.0 has been released in May 2018), and > > RHEL/CentOS 8 will not be supported anymore in 3 mo

Re: [RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 2/17/23 14:26, Thomas Huth wrote: Note: These changes mean that openSUSE is not considered as supported anymore (since version 15.0 has been released in May 2018), and RHEL/CentOS 8 will not be supported anymore in 3 months (since version 8.0 has been released in May 2019). Signed-off-by: Tho

[RFC PATCH] docs/about/build-platforms: Refine the distro support policy

2023-02-17 Thread Thomas Huth
Our distro support policy has been written with a best-effort estimation of what users and developers need. However, as we now know, the support for older long-term distributions can get really troublesome for upstream development, since it is for example close to impossible to keep the code for al