Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-05 Thread Markus Armbruster
Gerd Hoffmann writes: [...] >> Libvirt doesn't use  '-machine graphics=off' AFAIK, only '- >> nographic'. > > I think that is pretty much the same. Setting "graphichs=off" is one > of the effects of passing -nographic, and the other effects (like > setting up default serial + monitor in a differ

Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-03 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > Hmm, why?  The user asked for a serial console.  Whenever that is > > provided by seabios builtin support or the sgabios rom doesn't > > really > > matter, no? > > Surely it has ABI implications for the guest if we stop putting the > sgabios option ROM into memory - changing layout of R

Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-03 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Nov 03, 2017 at 07:49:03AM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Thu, 2017-11-02 at 16:11 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > >   Hi, > > > > > > One problem we have with the serial console support in seabios and > > > sgabios:

Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-02 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Thu, 2017-11-02 at 16:11 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > >   Hi, > > > > One problem we have with the serial console support in seabios and > > sgabios:  It can happen that both are activated.  We'll go fix that > > in > > qemu

Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-02 Thread Paolo Bonzini
On 02/11/2017 17:11, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Historically libvirt will always use '-device sgabios' if the user has > requested . So if that -device arg is given, I > think QEMU must honour it, which implies QEMU must disable Seabios' > own built-in serial console impl in that scenario. We sh

Re: [Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-02 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Nov 02, 2017 at 05:04:20PM +0100, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Hi, > > One problem we have with the serial console support in seabios and > sgabios: It can happen that both are activated. We'll go fix that in > qemu, but that'll work for new qemu versions only, not for the old > already rele

[Qemu-devel] seabios serial console vs. sgabios

2017-11-02 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, One problem we have with the serial console support in seabios and sgabios: It can happen that both are activated. We'll go fix that in qemu, but that'll work for new qemu versions only, not for the old already released ones. So I think it would be useful if seabios makes sure sgabios and