> > Kevin what do you think of this ?
> > I could strip down the dedupe journal code to specialize it.
>
> If you think it turns out easier than using the journalling
> infrastructure that we're going to implement anyway, then why not.
This question need to be though.
The good thing about the cur
On Fri, 09/06 11:57, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 06.09.2013 um 11:20 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
> > On Wed, 09/04 11:39, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > First of all, excuse any inconsistencies in the following mail. I wrote
> > > it from top to bottom, and there was some thought process involved in
> > > almos
On Tue, 09/03 15:45, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> This contains an extension of the qcow2 spec that introduces journalling
> to the image format, plus some preliminary type definitions and
> function prototypes in the qcow2 code.
>
> Journalling functionality is a crucial feature for the design of data
> d
Am 06.09.2013 um 11:20 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
> On Wed, 09/04 11:39, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > First of all, excuse any inconsistencies in the following mail. I wrote
> > it from top to bottom, and there was some thought process involved in
> > almost every paragraph...
> >
> > Am 04.09.2013 um 10
On Wed, 09/04 11:39, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> First of all, excuse any inconsistencies in the following mail. I wrote
> it from top to bottom, and there was some thought process involved in
> almost every paragraph...
>
> Am 04.09.2013 um 10:03 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2013
Am 05.09.2013 um 17:26 hat Benoît Canet geschrieben:
> Le Thursday 05 Sep 2013 à 11:24:40 (+0200), Stefan Hajnoczi a écrit :
> > On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:55:23AM +0200, Benoît Canet wrote:
> > > > > I'm not sure if multiple journals will work in practice. Doesn't this
> > > > > re-introduce the
On 09/05/2013 09:20 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>
> One additional thought that might make the thing a bit more interesting:
> Sequence numbers can wrap around as well.
On the other hand, if sequence numbers are 64-bit, the number of
operations required to cause a wrap far exceeds the expected lifetime
Am 05.09.2013 um 16:55 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 05.09.2013 um 11:21 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> >> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:39:51AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >> > > > +A journal is organised in journal blocks, all of whic
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 05.09.2013 um 11:21 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
>> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:39:51AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> > However, what if we run 'qemu-img check -r leaks' with an old qemu-img
>> > version? It will reclaim the clusters used by
Le Thursday 05 Sep 2013 à 11:24:40 (+0200), Stefan Hajnoczi a écrit :
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:55:23AM +0200, Benoît Canet wrote:
> > > > I'm not sure if multiple journals will work in practice. Doesn't this
> > > > re-introduce the need to order update steps and flush between them?
> > >
> >
> Then you get very quickly alternating sequences of "L2 depends on
> refcount update" (for allocation) and "refcount update depends on L2
> update" (for freeing), which means that Qcow2Cache starts flushing all
> the time without accumulating many requests. These are cases that would
> benefit as
Am 05.09.2013 um 11:35 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> Although we are still discussing details of the on-disk layout, the
> general design is clear enough to discuss how the journal will be used.
>
> Today qcow2 uses Qcow2Cache to do lazy, ordered metadata updates. The
> performance is pretty
Am 05.09.2013 um 11:21 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:39:51AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > However, what if we run 'qemu-img check -r leaks' with an old qemu-img
> > version? It will reclaim the clusters used by the journal, and if we
> > continue using the journal we
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:45:52PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> This contains an extension of the qcow2 spec that introduces journalling
> to the image format, plus some preliminary type definitions and
> function prototypes in the qcow2 code.
>
> Journalling functionality is a crucial feature for t
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:55:23AM +0200, Benoît Canet wrote:
> > > I'm not sure if multiple journals will work in practice. Doesn't this
> > > re-introduce the need to order update steps and flush between them?
> >
> > This is a question for Benoît, who made this requirement. I asked him
> > the
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 11:39:51AM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> First of all, excuse any inconsistencies in the following mail. I wrote
> it from top to bottom, and there was some thought process involved in
> almost every paragraph...
I should add this disclaimer to all my emails ;-).
> Am 04.09.2
> > I'm not sure if multiple journals will work in practice. Doesn't this
> > re-introduce the need to order update steps and flush between them?
>
> This is a question for Benoît, who made this requirement. I asked him
> the same a while ago and apparently his explanation made some sense to
> me
Am 04.09.2013 um 10:32 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> On 2013-09-03 15:45, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >This contains an extension of the qcow2 spec that introduces journalling
> >to the image format, plus some preliminary type definitions and
> >function prototypes in the qcow2 code.
> >
> >Journalling func
First of all, excuse any inconsistencies in the following mail. I wrote
it from top to bottom, and there was some thought process involved in
almost every paragraph...
Am 04.09.2013 um 10:03 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:45:52PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > @@ -103,
> > +They consist of transactions, which in turn contain operations that
> > +are effectively executed atomically. A qcow2 image can have a main image
> > +journal that deals with cluster management operations, and additional
> > specific
> > +journals can be used by other features like data dedup
On 2013-09-03 15:45, Kevin Wolf wrote:
This contains an extension of the qcow2 spec that introduces journalling
to the image format, plus some preliminary type definitions and
function prototypes in the qcow2 code.
Journalling functionality is a crucial feature for the design of data
deduplicati
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 03:45:52PM +0200, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> @@ -103,7 +107,11 @@ in the description of a field.
> write to an image with unknown auto-clear features if it
> clears the respective bits from this field first.
>
> -Bits
Le Tuesday 03 Sep 2013 à 15:45:52 (+0200), Kevin Wolf a écrit :
> This contains an extension of the qcow2 spec that introduces journalling
> to the image format, plus some preliminary type definitions and
> function prototypes in the qcow2 code.
>
> Journalling functionality is a crucial feature f
This contains an extension of the qcow2 spec that introduces journalling
to the image format, plus some preliminary type definitions and
function prototypes in the qcow2 code.
Journalling functionality is a crucial feature for the design of data
deduplication, and it will improve the core part of
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