Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?

2006-07-05 Thread John R. Hogerhuis
On Thu, 2006-07-06 at 13:04 +0800, James Lau wrote: > hi everybody, > For some security issues, I want to detect whether my Windows program > is running inside qemu. Have any ideas? > Security issues? That's a bit vague. More information about what you're attempting to do would be helpful. Th

Re: [Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?

2006-07-05 Thread Natalia Portillo
Hard disk model is QEMU. El 06/07/2006, a las 7:04, James Lau escribió: hi everybody, For some security issues, I want to detect whether my Windows program is running inside qemu. Have any ideas? Best Regards, James Lau ___ Qemu-devel mailing l

[Qemu-devel] Have any ideas about how to detect whether a program is running inside QEMU?

2006-07-05 Thread James Lau
hi everybody, For some security issues, I want to detect whether my Windows program is running inside qemu.  Have any ideas?   Best Regards,   James Lau ___ Qemu-devel mailing list Qemu-devel@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/qemu-devel

Re: [Qemu-devel] ARM9 emulation?

2006-07-05 Thread Andrew Lentvorski
Mike Swanson wrote: On Tuesday 04 July 2006 17:17, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: You might want to put an ARM9 or ARM7 as a separate word somewhere on the page. Putting "qemu arm9" into any of the search engines provides nothing useful. Possibly, but wouldn't the documentation be the first place t

RE: [Qemu-devel] QEMU wiki (was re: windows documentation etc)

2006-07-05 Thread Armistead, Jason
Jim C. Brown wrote: >You can already do this with the unofficial wiki. I don't see any difference >between an "official" and an "unofficial" wiki other than its title. > >Lots of people contribute to the wiki. If you have something to say, just stick >it in there. A wiki wouldn't be viable unless

Re: [Qemu-devel] Documentation for Windows host - is a QEMU wiki the way forward ?

2006-07-05 Thread Jim C. Brown
On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 07:55:14PM -0400, Armistead, Jason wrote: > I know there is the "Unofficial #qemu Wiki" on > http://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ > > How about an official (rather than unofficial) QEMU Wiki where we can ALL > contribute to the documentation process ? I think there are lo

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread benb
haha i did not intend to direct that to you. sorry -Ben > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> That being said, help is given to those who ask...not offend > > This was not meant to be offensive in any way. > > - -- > Flavio Visentin > GPG Key: http://ww

Re: [Qemu-devel] ARM9 emulation?

2006-07-05 Thread Mike Swanson
On Tuesday 04 July 2006 17:17, Andrew Lentvorski wrote: > You might want to put an ARM9 or ARM7 as a separate word somewhere on > the page. Putting "qemu arm9" into any of the search engines provides > nothing useful. Possibly, but wouldn't the documentation be the first place to look?

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Mike Swanson
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 15:01, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Yes, but the doc doesn't, for example, explain how you are supposed to > put a bootable image in "file". This is addressed by the excellent > responses from Nathaniel and Rick, and I included it in my proposed > tutorial. > > This is the sort

[Qemu-devel] Documentation for Windows host - is a QEMU wiki the way forward ?

2006-07-05 Thread Armistead, Jason
I don't want to start another flame war regarding the QEMU documentation. I accept that like many open source projects, QEMU is a work in progress (and a mighty fine one at that) and that like many of these systems, the documentation often gets a bit out of step with the current bleeding edge of t

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Flavio Visentin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > That being said, help is given to those who ask...not offend This was not meant to be offensive in any way. - -- Flavio Visentin GPG Key: http://www.zipman.it/gpgkey.asc There are only 10 types of people in this world: tho

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread WaxDragon
The "unoffical" FAQ has several usage examples. qemu.org links to the FAQ on this wiki, but examples are not in the FAQ, so you would have to look for it. http://kidsquid.com/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/ WD -- why does the size matter? ___ Qemu-devel mailing

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread benb
Were you able to get it going? > On Thu, 2006-06-07 at 00:48 +0200, Flavio Visentin wrote: >> This is qemu-DEVEL, not qemu-HELP; it's supposed to be a place where to >> chat about the development and related issues (although lack of doc is >> effectively a development issue). > > Yes. As I wro

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Thu, 2006-06-07 at 00:48 +0200, Flavio Visentin wrote: > This is qemu-DEVEL, not qemu-HELP; it's supposed to be a place where to > chat about the development and related issues (although lack of doc is > effectively a development issue). Yes. As I wrote in my initial email, I wrote here because

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread benb
That being said, help is given to those who ask...not offend > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Daniel Carrera wrote: >> I'll write a brief tutorial and post it here as promised. > > This is qemu-DEVEL, not qemu-HELP; it's supposed to be a place where to > chat about the dev

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Flavio Visentin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Carrera wrote: > I'll write a brief tutorial and post it here as promised. This is qemu-DEVEL, not qemu-HELP; it's supposed to be a place where to chat about the development and related issues (although lack of doc is effectively a development

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread NyOS
Hi! --- Let's see an example: installation. Qemu is a virtual machine program. So, that's a machine in the machine. There is a computer, called "host", which runs an OS, called Host OS, and Qemu (besides other programs). Qemu is a simple program from the ho

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread benb
What OS are you using? in linux: (assumptions: you want to boot from cd and your cdrom is located at /dev/cdrom) #cd /home/ #qemu-img create windows.img 500M #qemu -boot d -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda windows.img > On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 15:34 -0700, Ronnie Misra wrote: >> I think it's great tha

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 15:34 -0700, Ronnie Misra wrote: > I think it's great that you've offered to write documentation for > qemu, but perhaps the discussion would have been smoother if you'd > started with: Point taken. I admit I have little patience for poor documentation. Especially when it

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Ronnie Misra
I think it's great that you've offered to write documentation for qemu, but perhaps the discussion would have been smoother if you'd started with: On Jul 5, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Daniel Carrera wrote: It is tempting to simply list all the features that a program has. But a feature-based document

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Jamie Lokier
Udo 'Robos' Puetz wrote: > -hda file > -hdb file > -hdc file > -hdd file > Use file as hard disk 0, 1, 2 or 3 image (see section 3.6 Disk Images). > -cdrom file > Use file as CD-ROM image (you cannot use -hdc' and and -cdrom' at the same > time). You can use the host CD-ROM by using /dev/cdrom

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread benb
What OS are you using? in linux: (assumptions: you want to boot from cd and your cdrom is located at /dev/cdrom) #cd /home/ #qemu-img create windows.img 500M #qemu -boot d -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda windows.img > Daniel Carrera wrote: >> In any event, since you find it so easy to use, could you pl

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Jamie Lokier
Daniel Carrera wrote: > In any event, since you find it so easy to use, could you please tell me > how to use it? I don't use it any more, I only needed it for a couple of days as it happens. So I've completely forgotten everything, sorry ;-) Well, > The only reason why now I have a fair idea

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu tutorial

2006-07-05 Thread Larry Brigman
On 7/5/06, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A quick FYI. I mentioned that on another list someone explained that I was supposed to create a blank disk image first and then boot from a CD ROM. I then asked there "do you know how to do that?". His response was "No, I don't... I switched to

Re: [Qemu-devel] Qemu tutorial

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
A quick FYI. I mentioned that on another list someone explained that I was supposed to create a blank disk image first and then boot from a CD ROM. I then asked there "do you know how to do that?". His response was "No, I don't... I switched to vmware". The point of this is that I'm not the only p

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 23:46 +0200, Udo 'Robos' Puetz wrote: > __Straight from the docs__ > > -hda file > -hdb file Yes, but the doc doesn't, for example, explain how you are supposed to put a bootable image in "file". This is addressed by the excellent responses from Nathaniel and Rick, and I in

[Qemu-devel] Qemu tutorial

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello all, As promised, here is a tutorial I would recommend to get people started. It's short and sweet: <- Tutorial: Full system emulation under Linux --- Alright, you have qemu installed and now you want to run a client OS under q

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Udo 'Robos' Puetz
On Wed, 05.07.06, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi List and Daniel. I already answered him off-list to keep this IMHO noise down but now I have to answer. Normally I only lurk... > > Dan - Try reading. -Ben > > > > Thank you, I did think of that, it didn't work. The documentation is

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 16:25 -0500, Rick Vernam wrote: > qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda /path/to/your/image -boot d Thank you!!! You're the man! I'll write a brief tutorial and post it here as promised. Cheers, Daniel. -- http://opendocumentfellowship.org "The reasonable man adapts himself to the

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 22:25 +0100, Jamie Lokier wrote: > Personally I found Qemu astonishingly easy to use, and simply not > needing a lot of documentation to get an OS installed from CD into it. I don't expect it needs a lot of documentation. It is a mistake to think that "good" documentation equ

RE: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Dugger, Donald D
Well, calling it worthless is a little harsh. As with all documentation I'm sure it could be made better but, if you read the documentation carefully, it actually tells you what to do. Note that there are instructions on how to boot a CD image (section 3.3 of the user manual, check out the option

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Larry Brigman
On 7/5/06, Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 17:12 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > A person who is in your position (frustrated for lack of documentation) > is actually the most qualified person to write documentation. Feel free > to ask any questions you have on

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
To create an empty Hard Drive image do: qemu-img create for example: qemu-img create windows.img 2G You can also use the preferred ("qcow") image format by doing: qemu-img create -f qcow windows.img 2G That gives you the ability to save snapshots, encrypt the image, etc. Now we'll

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Rick Vernam
qemu -cdrom /dev/cdrom -hda /path/to/your/image -boot d On Wednesday 05 July 2006 16:19, Daniel Carrera wrote: > On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 17:12 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > > A person who is in your position (frustrated for lack of documentation) > > is actually the most qualified person to wri

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Jamie Lokier
Daniel Carrera wrote: > I've looked at qemu several times over the past several years. Every > time I get excited at the prospect of migrating people to GNU/Linux by > letting them run the one windows app they need... and every time I hit a > brick wall, as qemu fails to actually do anything useful

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 17:34 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dan - Try reading. -Ben > Thank you, I did think of that, it didn't work. The documentation is not particularly useful. In particular, it doesn't tell you how to actually get an OS running under qemu, which, I'm sure, is the most typic

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
On Wed, 2006-05-07 at 17:12 -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > A person who is in your position (frustrated for lack of documentation) > is actually the most qualified person to write documentation. Feel free > to ask any questions you have on this list. I would be happy to contribute a section.

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread benb
Dan - Try reading. -Ben > Hello, > > I write here because there doesn't seem to be a Bugzilla for qemu and > whoever is responsible for the qemu documentation must be here. > > The documentation is quite worthless. > > I'm sure you don't like hearing that, but consider that it doesn't > actually

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Nathaniel McCallum
A person who is in your position (frustrated for lack of documentation) is actually the most qualified person to write documentation. Feel free to ask any questions you have on this list. Nathaniel On Wed, 2006-07-05 at 21:57 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Hello, > > I write here because there

Re: [Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Rick Vernam
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 15:57, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Try to take this approach: You are writing to a technically competent > user (perhaps a sysadmin) who wants to run Windows under Linux with qemu > (perhaps to migrate some of the company computers). He has a Windows > install CD, he has qemu

[Qemu-devel] No useful documentation.

2006-07-05 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello, I write here because there doesn't seem to be a Bugzilla for qemu and whoever is responsible for the qemu documentation must be here. The documentation is quite worthless. I'm sure you don't like hearing that, but consider that it doesn't actually show the user how get qemu to do what qem

Re: [Qemu-devel] QEMU GUI

2006-07-05 Thread Luca Barbato
Chris Wilson wrote: > > I'd be interested to know why you dislike it. The library is incompatible with itself depending on the configure time options (see string constructors vs unicode string constructors) Its ABI/API changes too often (ok, that is the result of they fixing lots of bugs that r

Re: [Qemu-devel] balloon driver

2006-07-05 Thread Paul Brook
On Wednesday 05 July 2006 03:58, Eric L wrote: > I've been playing around with QEMU the past few days and have been > quite impressed. One thing I wondered about: it seems that most of > the other virtualization schemes have some sort of balloon driver to > reclaim unused (cached) guest memory. (

[Qemu-devel] qemu vl.h

2006-07-05 Thread Paul Brook
CVSROOT:/sources/qemu Module name:qemu Changes by: Paul Brook 06/07/05 14:39:57 Modified files: . : vl.h Log message: Don't include audio.h when building tools. CVSWeb URLs: http://cvs.savannah.gnu.org/viewcvs/qemu/vl.h?cvsroot=qemu&r1=1.134&r2=

RE: [Qemu-devel] qemu/hw pcnet.c

2006-07-05 Thread ZIGLIO, Frediano, VF-IT
> > that fixed the mingw/win32 build > thx > > On 7/4/06, Fabrice Bellard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > CVSROOT:/sources/qemu > > Module name:qemu > > Changes by: Fabrice Bellard06/07/04 21:42:10 > > > > Modified files: > >hw : pcnet.c > > > > Log mess

Re: [Qemu-devel] qemu/hw pcnet.c

2006-07-05 Thread Christian MICHON
that fixed the mingw/win32 build thx On 7/4/06, Fabrice Bellard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: CVSROOT:/sources/qemu Module name:qemu Changes by: Fabrice Bellard06/07/04 21:42:10 Modified files: hw : pcnet.c Log message: avoid unneeded dependencies