> On Feb 17, 2021, at 12:25 AM, Karen Shaeffer via Python-list
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>
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>> On Feb 16, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Jason Friedman wrote:
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>>>
>>> I set listen(2) and expect to see "error" when more clients than "the
>>> ma
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On 16/02/2021 21:22, Tarjei Bærland via Python-list wrote:
> To me, it depends on what you want out of including programming in
> mathematics education.
That's a really important subclass distinction.
If programming is seen as an adjunct to math then the aims
can be simplified conside
make hard things easy.
Just a thought. Admittedly it is hard these days to give a homework
assignment when the student can find a trivial way to get the result and not
do the hard work.
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that method was borrowed from or vice versa. Being a rich language has pro's
and cons. LISP only had cons.
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plus or
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later, sure, maybe they get extra credit.
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class?
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advice or actual code that zoomed in one how to do it to a series. You clearly
saw it.
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above is not meant to be efficient and I could do better if I take more
than a few minutes but is straightforward and uses the vectorized approach
so no obvious loops are needed.
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. Unclicking
anything in this case may not be enough and perhaps the code should clear
all other items too. Clicking on any one, should mark all of them. So not
really a simple subset of the cases.
And what messages does a user get as they use the control?
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just a category that could be doable.
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The problem string is "win32". You should be able to open a terminal
Window and execute "uname -r".
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> Hey Community, Is there a site where I might/can download a version of
> Tkinter for Python 2.7?
Which OS?
If it's Linux you may need to fetch the tkinter
package for your distro.
In Windoze it should come as s
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> On 28/02/2021 00:17, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>
>> BUT... It also has a __iter__ value, which like any Box iterates over
>> the subboxes. For MDAT that is implemented like this:
>>
>> def __iter_
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>Sir I am facing the issue from 10 days. And I tried all the ways to
> remove
>this or to come out of this problem
>but as i t
I can't work out why
1 + - 1
1 + (not 1)
are legal syntax, but
1 + not 1
isn't.
Is there a good reason for this?
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how languages like Python and R grow and
how they keep adding features including many borrowed or imitated from
elsewhere and I conclude you can just put everything imaginable into Python
and the rest become superfluous! Problem solved.
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etail that maybe
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I want to make apriori algorithm from start. Anybody have any
ning('warning from <%s>', __name__)
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### baz.py
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import logging
l = logging.getLogger('foo.baz')
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l.debug('debug from <%s>', __name__)
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tuples or whatever the algorithm wants.
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anything, but I think a universal translator may not be imminent.
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before. Any
voluntary role here is generally to help with questions about fairly
specific python code as compared to big projects.
Good luck!
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> I hope that helps,
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On 11/03/2021 11:01, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
> This is a valid Python program:
>
> def f(): pass
> print(f)
>
> But at the REPL:
>
> >>> def f(): pass
> ... print(f)
> File "", line 2
> print(f)
> ^
> SyntaxErr
all the procedures listed there but there
is still no change. I need help on this
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> On 3/8/21 4:16 AM, Robert Latest via Python-list wrote:
>> Joseph L. Casale wrote:
>>>> I couldn't find any information on how to implement logging in a library
>>>> that doesn't know the name of the application that uses it. H
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db = Session()
egg = Item(name='egg', weight=50, color='white')
b = Basket()
# fails because in Link.__init__(), SQLAlchemy wants to create a new Item
# rather than using the existing one.
b.contents['egg'] = 6
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ne it. It’s a trivial
exercise in Go.
I’m not bashing Python here. I will continue to code with python. Its an
exceptional language and community. Just commenting on my experience.
humbly,
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idiotic, frankly.
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Well, it predates Python's use of Unicode in the default string type,
but not Python's use of Unicode in strings.
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> On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 4:31 AM Robert Latest via Python-list
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>>
>> Mats Wichmann wrote:
>> > The problem is that there isn't a standard for title case,
>>
>> The problem is that we owe the very existence of the .tit
me up with a solution.
I agree with everything you say. Especially the open source part. But wouldn't
you agree that .title() with all its arbitrary specificity to appear in the
very core of a general purpose language is quite an oddity?
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> On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 10:31 PM Robert Latest via Python-list
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>> Yes, I get that. But the purpose it (improperly) serves only makes sense in
>> the English language.
>
> Why? Do titles not exist in other languages? Does no other language
&g
n(). That
said, I doubt that .title() would make it into Python today if it weren't there
already. I'm having fun with this.
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Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2021-03-20, Robert Latest via Python-list wrote:
>> Mats Wichmann wrote:
>>> The problem is that there isn't a standard for title case,
>>
>> The problem is that we owe the very existence of the .title() method to too
>> much we
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Birth: -
Sadly all examples I can find on the web are for TCP sockets, not Unix domain.
Any tips?
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rong type for socket
>>
>
> Not familiar with socat, but here's some simple Python code to trigger your
> server:
>
>>>> import socket sock = socket.socket(socket.AF_UNIX)
>>>> sock.connect("/tmp/test.socket") sock.send(b"Hello, world")
> 12
>>>> sock.close()
>>>>
Works perfectly, thanks! I'm probably not using socat right.
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ut Unicode is
[many things]
> The documentation sometimes shorthands things with terms like "upper
> case" and "lower case", but that's partly because being pedantically
> correct in a docstring doesn't actually help anything, and the code
> itself IS correct.
...but hard to maintain and useless. I just love to hate .title() ;-)
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> and life with that wart.
Perfectly willing to as long as everybody agrees it's a wart ;-)
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print('Unpickled: ', data)
else:
print('Pickled: ', type(obj))
if os.path.exists(SOCKET):
os.unlink(SOCKET)
with UnixStreamServer(SOCKET, Handler) as server:
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tchas, then you are good to go.
I have no more time for this. Thanks for your comment. I learned a little
reading the long thread dealing with .title(). (chuckles ;)
Humbly,
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Benjamin Schollnick wrote:
> I’m sorry, but it’s as if he’s arguing for the sake of arguing. It’s
> starting to feel very unproductive, and unnecessary.
That was never five minutes just now!
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Am 22.03.21 um 16:03 schrieb Robert Latest:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> Cool thing is, nobody in Pyth
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anslator by just saving some JSON descriptions?
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On 23Mar2021 16:37, Tomasz Rola wrote:
>On Tue, M
On 23/03/2021 14:40, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote:
> $1 == 113 {
> if (x || y || z)
> print "More than one type $8 atom.";
> else {
> x = $2; y = $3; z = $4;
> istep++;
> }
> }
>
> I am a tod concerned as to where
w programs
as compared to a time they were really useful. So many people sort of live
within one application in a GUI rather than work at a textual level in a
shell where many problems can rapidly be done with a few smaller tools,
often in a pipeline.
Avi
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On 24/03/2021 16:00, Avi Gross via Python-list wrote:
> But I wonder how much languages like AWK are still used to make new programs
> as compared to a time they were really useful.
True. I first discovered awk from a Byte article around 1988/9
and it became my goto tool for text munching
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On 24Mar2021 12:00, Avi Gross wrote:
>But I wonder how much languages like AWK are still used to make new
>programs as compared to a time
be more
wordy.
Disclaimer: I am not suggesting people use AWK or PERL or anything else. The
focus is if people come from other programming environments and are looking
at how to do common tasks in python.
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> A generat
wishes but not free to force others to
help him when it is not in their interest.
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On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 4:20 PM wrote:
>
> Chris,
&
"noob"
> }
> ]
>
> than just
>
> lod = []
> for name in dod:
> d = dod[name]
> d["name"] = name
> lod.append(d)
>
> ?
There can't be a "canonical" way to perform the arbitrary data
conversion you want, because it's arbitrary. Personally I would
do this:
[dict(data, name=name) for name, data in dod.items()]
but it's of course arguable whether this is "more Pythonic" or
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It's probably worth noting this method requires Python 3.9.
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> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:01 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
> wrote:
>>
>> On 2021-03-30, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> > I dunno about "canonical", but here's how I'd do it:
>> >
>> > lod = [i
/
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preview of the beginning parts and see it is about programming,
hold the curses.
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...
So depending on what country you are interested in, it may well be there but
you need to not use the supplied URL and go there directly.
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March 30, 2021 6:35:20 PM GMT+02:00, Chris Angelico wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 3:21 AM Avi Gross via Python-list
> wrote:
>>
>> Congratulations, Alan, on the book.
>>
>> I continue to wonder if people will buy the book for the wrong reason or ban
>> it t
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> Congratulations!
>
> Indeed, I was wondering for a moment if this was a guide to al dente
> spaghetti code. With each curse being a funny way to mess with the colleagues
> performing the code review ;)
You may jest b
On 31/03/2021 00:09, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> Watch this space. Hopefully tomorrow.
The source code is now available in a zip file at:
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Or via a link on the programming section of my
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It
ost.
In my opinion it may significantly reduce their performance.
Probably still worth trying. Always better to measure than to guess.
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On 02/04/2021 00:42, dn via Python-list wrote:
> Contrarily "tuck" in (old) English slang represented "sweets" (or
Not that old. We still use it occasionally today. And we
certainly had a "tuck shop" at school. It was where you
bought lunch if not eating in the
be equally relevant.
I will agree that some kinds of pie-thon have chocolate as a middle
ingredient but what good is any kind of pie without coffee?
Oops, I should have sent this yesterday!
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On 02/04/2021 23:10, dn via Python-list wrote:
(f) the space-saver:
resource = "Oil"; time = 1; crude = 2; residue = 3; my_list = "long"
IMO This can be OK when the number of items is VERY small (like 2) and
not expected to increase (or decrease). Especially if
On 02/04/2021 21:33, dn via Python-list wrote:
> Bournville was the only Cadbury chocolate I would
> consider. Today, even that seems to lack
Cadbury has always been a budget chocolate brand(*) here;
its a mass market option loaded with sugar and little
else. Certainly doesn't
On 02/04/2021 23:10, dn via Python-list wrote:
> When there are several items to be defined and initialised, how do you
> prefer to format the code, and why?
> (a) basic linear presentation:
>
> resource = "Oil"
> time = 1
> crude = 2
> residue = 3
> my_
On 03/04/2021 04:09, [email protected] wrote:
On 2021-04-03 at 02:41:59 +0100,
Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
x1 = 42; y1 = 3; z1 = 10
x2 = 41; y2 = 12; z2 = 9
x3 = 8; y3 = 8; z3 = 10
(please imagine it's in a fixed font with everything n
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On 04/04/2021 01.00, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
On 03/04/2021 04:09, [email protected] wrote:
On 2021-04-03 at 02:41:59 +0100,
Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote:
x1 = 42; y1 = 3; z1 = 10
x2 = 41; y2 = 12
On 05/04/2021 17:52, Chris Angelico wrote:
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wrote:
It doesn't appear to, at least not always. In Python 3.8.3:
from dis import dis
def f(): x = 1 ; y = 2
def g(): (x,y) = (1,2)
dis(f)
dis(g)
Output:
2 0 LOAD_
t" from my "safe" list because I now realise that
"set" could be reassigned.
Correction: set literals like {7,8} should still be OK as far as I can see.
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From: Python-list On
Behalf Of Terry Reedy
Sent: Monday, April 5, 2021 3:01 PM
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Subject: Re: Yield after the return in Python function.
On 4/5/2021 1:53 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 3:46 AM Terry Reedy wrote:
>> *While &#x
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