A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively
small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are.
<https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-2-and-3-12-9-now-available/79509#p-225156-python-3132-1>Python
3.13.2
Python 3.13’s second maintenance release. Abo
d,automatic]
>> openssl/noble-updates,noble-security,now 3.0.13-0ubuntu3.4 amd64
>> [installed,automatic]
>> ssl-cert/noble,noble,now 1.1.2ubuntu1 all [installed,automatic]
>
> Thanks Jason, I have near the same result of you.
> I need to explain the context.
> I
On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
> xxx is the package that provides the library. I don't have a Ubuntu
> currently
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 04:04, Grant Edwards via Python-list
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>
> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>
> > You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
> > On Ubuntu, the packages with sources are typically named xxx-dev where
&
Thomas Wouters writes:
> A small release day today! That is to say the releases are relatively
> small; the day itself was of average size, as most days are.
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On 2025-02-10, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 04:04, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
>> On 2025-02-09, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> You need the sources of the OpenSSL library, not the compiled library.
>>>
On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 05:56, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
> The -dev packages also contain the man pages for the libraries. It
> surprised me at first that the man pages weren't installed by the
> "normal" lib packages. But, if you're not writing/building ap
Hello!
I'm pleased to announce version 3.12.0.post2, the second post-release
of release 3.12.0 of branch 3.12 of SQLObject.
What's new in SQLObject
===
Installation/dependencies
-
* Use ``FormEncode`` 2.1.1 for Python 3.13.
For a more com
call_tracing()| enables explicit recursion of the
tracing function.
Is there any reason it doesn't support
sys.call_tracing(/func/, /args/, kargs)
to call
func(*args, **kargs)
?
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/python3.12/site-packages/pipx_shared.pth
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cache.py downloader __init__.py __main__.py postprocessor
socks.py update.py version.py
I've been retired from python programming for 10 years now, and just
tinker or write stuff for myself to
use on my own workstation, so I have obviously forgotten a lot (
On 12/14/24 10:31 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the
> installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment.
>
> the mono build search for a working python3 and find *my*
> > HOME/ext/x86
On Sat, 14 Dec 2024 at 19:02, Mark Bourne via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Martin Ruppert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the division 0.4/7 provides a wrong result. It should give a periodic
> > decimal fraction with at most six digits, but it doesn't.
> >
> > B
[email protected] wrote:
On 2024-12-14 at 12:08:29 +,
Mark Bourne via Python-list wrote:
Martin Ruppert wrote:
Hi,
the division 0.4/7 provides a wrong result. It should give a periodic
decimal fraction with at most six digits, but it doesn't.
Below is the comparis
On 2024-12-16, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters"
> at python doesn't ever understand the problem.
You should definitely demand to speak to the manager and request your
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Dear All,
DIPY is a software that analyzes structural and diffusion MRI images using
Python. We are excited to invite you to our upcoming DIPY workshop, which
will take place from March 17 to March 21, 2025. This year, we promise an
enriching experience as we dive into the world of AI in advanced
On 12/16/24 12:08 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> If I read the answers I come to the conclusion that the "supporters" at
> python doesn't ever understand the problem.
Sorry you feel that way. Various people gave the best advice they could
based on what you had prov
On 12/13/24 1:56 PM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> the problem is *not* to setup an environment variable, the problem is that
> python is *not*
> able to setup the *python* environment by it self.
You're mistaken in this case. Nothing you've posted indicates the
problem
On 12/14/24 2:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
> So it might be because it's in a different directory ("HOME/ext/..." is
> a relative path. That will not work in a different directory. Also
> "HOME" is a strange choice for a directory name. Did
esult, which is not a
periodic decimal fraction with at most six digits.
calc and dc provide as well an identical result, which *is* a periodic
decimal fraction with six digits, so I think that's right.
Below ist the python-script, with which the computation was done.
Best regards
Mart
nks from PyPI are
either broken or don't exist), but I'm guessing they use some heuristics
to determine that the float passed in very close to 0.4 so that was
probably intended, rather than using the exact value represented by that
float.
Below ist the python-script, with which t
On Sun, 15 Dec 2024 at 06:05, aotto1968 via Python-list
wrote:
> The CORE problem is that python3 works well in *my* environment but the
> installation is done as root and root does not use *my* environment.
>
So, it's an environment problem, NOT a Python problem. You messed up
you
On 2024-12-14 at 12:08:29 +,
Mark Bourne via Python-list wrote:
> Martin Ruppert wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the division 0.4/7 provides a wrong result. It should give a periodic
> > decimal fraction with at most six digits, but it doesn't.
> >
> &
g`` is actually ``psycopg3`` now; not all tests pass.
* Minor fix in getting error code from PyGreSQL.
* Dropped ``oursql``. It wasn't updated in years.
* Dropped ``PySQLite2``. Only builtin ``sqlite3`` is supported.
Tests
-
* Run tests with Python 3.13.
* Run tests with ``psycopg-c``
Another big release day! Python 3.13.1 and 3.12.8 were regularly scheduled
releases, but they do contain a few security fixes. That makes it a nice
time to release the security-fix-only versions too, so everything is as
secure as we can make it.
<https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-13-1-3-12-
thank a lot Oleg.
have a nice day.
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 4:56 PM Oleg Broytman via Python-list <
[email protected]> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I'm pleased to announce version 3.12.0, the release of branch
> 3.12 of SQLObject.
>
>
> What's new in SQLObject
On Sun, 22 Dec 2024 at 19:17, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Was just playing with numbers and stumbled on something I've never seen
> before.
...
>
> >>> 9**9**4
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in
> ValueEr
I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
i.e. for use with non-GUI programs that one runs from the command
prompt in a terminal window running a bash shell or some such.
What I'm specifically after is a way to provide a default value that
can be accepted
Can one use pipx to wrap the process of creating an independent
environment for a python package as opposed to a runnable application?
E.g. I want to install and use pksheet but, as it's not available from
the Debian repositories, I'll have to install it from PyPi. So I
should put it
On 1/10/25 12:53, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/10/2025 4:00 PM, Tim Johnson via Python-list wrote:
On 1/10/25 11:32, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
,,, snipped
Below is the pertinent code:
Popen(choice, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,
stdin=PIPE, close_fds=True
t you
tried should work.
What happens if in a separate terminal you try:
$ ps auxwww | grep audacity?
Are there any processes running?
If your script fails, what is the error?
If it doesn't, can you run this:
$strace python ./audacity-test.py
where audacity-test.py looks like this:
import s
by them, nor will this library integrate with the other
libraries provided by the system. So, it's hard to imagine why your
users would want that.
On Sun, Jan 12, 2025 at 12:47 AM Chris Green via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Can one use pipx to wrap the process of creating an independent
On 1/10/2025 4:00 PM, Tim Johnson via Python-list wrote:
On 1/10/25 11:32, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
,,, snipped
Below is the pertinent code:
Popen(choice, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,
stdin=PIPE, close_fds=True)
My guess is my argument list is either insufficient or
data format (wav: using
speech_recognition's *get_wav_data*(), using numpy...)
Any suggestions (using Python 2.x)?
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On 2025-01-17, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
>> Alan Gauld writes:
>>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode
On 1/17/25 12:03, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Alan Gauld writes:
On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
Alan Gauld writes:
On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
I ha
Alan Gauld writes:
> On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
>> Alan Gauld writes:
>>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>>>
>>>
(Note: I have mail delivery disabled for this list and read it through
GMane, so I am unable to respond with correct threading if I'm not cc'ed
directly.)
On 1/17/25 7:26 PM, dn via Python-list wrote:
On 18/01/25 12:33, Ian Pilcher via Python-list wrote:
I am making my first atte
r user interface is intuitive in retrospect ... it isn't intuitive
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> On 2025-01-14 11:32:35 +, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> > Use a virtual environment, what do I have to do then to make using
> > my program (t
Chris Green via Python-list writes:
> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
> i.e. for use with non-GUI programs that one runs from the command
> prompt in a terminal window running a bash shell or some such.
I'd suggest giving a try to https
あうぇくろ writes:
tpr=composite(type,print)
print(tpr('a')==tpr(1))
Why does tpr('a')==tpr(1) return True?
Because tpr always returns the value None.
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On 1/12/2025 7:11 AM, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
Stefan Ram wrote:
Chris Green wrote or quoted:
E.g. I want to install and use pksheet but, as it's not available from
the Debian repositories, I'll have to install it from PyPi.
I can't dig up any "pksheet"
On 1/13/2025 11:09 AM, Henry S. Thompson via Python-list wrote:
I've spent several days trying to get this example [1] working, using
Python3.11 and Cython 3.0.11 of Debian.
I've copied the example files as carefully as I can, renamed some to
avoid a name clash with the queue.py li
On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
The standard package for this is curses which comes as part
of the standard library on *nix distros.
> What I'm specifically after is a way to provide
On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the high level
"panel" and "menu" curses subystems that make it easy aren't included
in the Pytho
On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
>
>> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
>
> All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortunately, the high level
> "panel" and &q
evious response, it told me what I needed to know,
that pipx isn't really going to do what I want particularly easily.
If I DIY an environment for pysheet and then develop some python that
uses it, how do I then make it accessible as a 'normal' program? This
is just for my own use
[email protected] wrote:
>
> This is what I was going to suggest. Rich is super easy to use.
OK, thanks, Rich is on my shortlist then.
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On 1/14/25 04:32, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two
workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels
around with me.
I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago.
I ran Xubuntu
Hello Chris,
I do have similar "problems" and still try to get used to the "new way".
Other might correct me. I am not sure yet.
To my current understanding the way to go is to install Python
applications via "pipx". That make the application available in your
On 2025-01-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>> On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
>>
>>> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
>>
>> All of that is easy w
having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using
the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer.
Please Advise
Mario Ramos.
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Alan Gauld wrote:
> On 14/01/2025 00:20, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> > On 2025-01-13, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote:
> >
> >> All of that is possible in curses, you just have to code it.
> >
> > All of that is easy with curses in C. Unfortuna
I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two
workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels
around with me.
I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago.
I ran Xubuntu for many years and acquired a whole lot of python
On 1/13/25 22:47, roc str via Python-list wrote:
having a difficult time installing Python-3.10.16.tgz using
the Python-3.20.0a2.exe installer.
Please Advise
Mario Ramos.
Your question doesn't exactly make sense, but note this:
Windows installers are not built for "security bugfix
On 1/14/2025 6:32 AM, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
I have a (relatively) clean Debian 12 installation running on my two
workhorse systems, a desktop server at home and my laptop that travels
around with me.
I moved from Xubuntu to Debian on both these systems a few months ago.
I ran
Happy New Year, one and all. :)
Tim
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On 12/31/2024 7:00 PM, Tim Johnson via Python-list wrote:
Please let me grumble for a minute : I've been using python since before
1. 5, when I could email Guido van Rossum directly with questions
and on at least one occasion we swapped stories about our cats. I put
six kids though co
On Tue, Dec 31, 2024, 17:04 Tim Johnson via Python-list <
[email protected]> wrote:
> I am as of today, getting an import error for mutagen. Mutagen package
> is installed at /root/.local/share/pipx/shared/lib/python3.12/site-packages
> Pip-installed packages that go to /
Please let me grumble for a minute : I've been using python since before
1. 5, when I could email Guido van Rossum directly with questions
and on at least one occasion we swapped stories about our cats. I put
six kids though college writing python, and now after
being retired for ten
the diagram is also attached here
Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 18:27, marc nicole a écrit :
> Hello community,
>
> I have created a Python code where a main algorithm uses three different
> modules (.py) after importing them.
>
> To illustrate and describe it I have created the f
it is here https://i.sstatic.net/ykk5Wd0w.png
Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 20:03, Michael Torrie via Python-list <
[email protected]> a écrit :
> On 12/24/24 10:27 AM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > the diagram is also attached here
>
> This text-only mailin
Hello community,
I have created a Python code where a main algorithm uses three different
modules (.py) after importing them.
To illustrate and describe it I have created the following component
diagram?
[image: checkso.PNG]
Could it be improved for better description and readability
On 12/24/24 10:27 AM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> the diagram is also attached here
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the purpose of the diagram is to convey a minimalistic idea about the
structure of the code/implementation/software
Le mer. 25 déc. 2024 à 01:49, Thomas Passin via Python-list <
[email protected]> a écrit :
> On 12/24/2024 3:42 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > i
mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 21:56, dn via Python-list a
écrit :
> On 25/12/24 06:27, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> > Hello community,
> >
> > I have created a Python code where a main algorithm uses three different
> > modules (.py) after importing them.
> >
> &g
The full python package (pypi) being represented as the outermost frame
here including the 4 sub-frames)
Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 22:05, marc nicole a écrit :
> I want to convey the idea that main.py (main algorithm) imports 3 modules
> (V, S, M) (each of them containing .py scripts rela
On 12/24/2024 4:08 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
The full python package (pypi) being represented as the outermost frame
here including the 4 sub-frames)
Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 22:05, marc nicole a écrit :
I want to convey the idea that main.py (main algorithm) imports 3 modules
(V
marc nicole via Python-list ezt írta (időpont:
2024. dec. 24., K 22:09):
> The full python package (pypi) being represented as the outermost frame
> here including the 4 sub-frames)
>
> Le mar. 24 déc. 2024 à 22:05, marc nicole a écrit :
>
> > I want to convey the id
On 12/24/2024 3:42 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
it is here https://i.sstatic.net/ykk5Wd0w.png
This diagram does not make much sense to me:
1. What is the purpose of the diagram and who is it intended for?
2. A module and an algorithm are different kinds of things, yet they are
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list
wrote:
> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because:
>
> 1) "cnf" is using OS python
> 2) os "root" python
> 3) using **my** local non-root library
Yes. And YOU were the one wh
On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 14:52:23 +0400
Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
> these last times.
>
> I think that it definitely lacks some of the joys of the mailing list:
>
>
ual environment
using pip or w/e the package wants to be installed with. Investigate
and refine the dependencies I need (It's very common in the Python
world to incorrectly specify dependencies, to require a lot of
unnecessary dependencies, to depend on packages in the wrong way). And
after I
On 2025-01-14, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> Yes, thanks all, maybe just straightforward curses is the way to go.
> Looking at some of the 'cleverer' ones they end up looking remarkably
> like GUI code, in which case I might as well use a GUI.
The source code to config
On 15/01/2025 00:54, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> are your friend. If that's not sophisticated enough the gnu "readline"
> library with a simple command processor is a common next step.
On that front the cmd module in Python is often overlooked
but is useful for
Op 11/01/2025 om 15:28 schreef Chris Green via Python-list:
I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
i.e. for use with non-GUI programs that one runs from the command
prompt in a terminal window running a bash shell or some such.
What I'm specifically afte
Using Python 3.12.3 on Ubuntu 24.04
I've converted a legacy python2 script to python3. All went well.
However, a glitch from python2 remains.
The script uses dmenu to create menus to pick applications. Applications
are then invoked from python
using subprocess.Popen(). I have never
On 1/10/25 11:32, MRAB via Python-list wrote:
,,, snipped
Below is the pertinent code:
Popen(choice, stdout=PIPE, stderr=PIPE,
stdin=PIPE, close_fds=True)
My guess is my argument list is either insufficient or an argument is
causing the problem, but am unsure of
Alan Gauld writes:
> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>
> The standard package for this is curses which comes as part
> of the standard library on *nix distros.
The thing about c
On 15/01/2025 00:41, Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
> Alan Gauld writes:
>> On 11/01/2025 14:28, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
>>> I'm looking for Python packages that can help with text mode input,
>>
>> The standard package for this is curses whi
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group//meeting in Düsseldorf, Germany/
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s a very good "mailing list" mode. I use it that was >90% of
> the time, and file both posts from Discourse and posts from python-list
> into my "python" mail folder.
Yes, it's the one saving grace of a Discourse forum, you can use it by
E-Mail and it behaves
/python-list
>
> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
>
> The compilation is complete without errors but I have this message:
>
>
> The necessary bits to build these opti
l-dev etc.
On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 9:35 AM Vincent Vande Vyvre via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
>
> The compilation is complete without errors
nd atrocious error handling.
On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 5:51 PM Vincent Vande Vyvre via Python-list
wrote:
>
> >
> > In case this helps you find the correct package to install:
> >
> > $ python3 -c "if True:
> > > import ssl
> > > print('
[email protected] writes:
> Hi,
>
> Trying to compile Python-3.12.9 on Ubuntu-24.04
>
> The compilation is complete without errors but I have this message:
>
>
On 2/16/2025 4:00 PM, Jan Erik Moström via Python-list wrote:
On 16 Feb 2025, at 20:59, dn via Python-list wrote:
When stop to think about it, this is quite a request:
don't give me what I do know,
do give me what I don't know!
😜
That said, you are correct: the bulk of new pu
nstall -s", and the installation
failed because it tried to strip Python scripts as well as the
python3.14 executable:
install -s -m 644 ./Tools/gdb/libpython.py python-gdb.py
strip: python-gdb.py: file format not recognized
install: strip process terminated abnormally
make: ***
creating XMPP bots, based on the
module Slixmpp, and perhaps also for IRC and MQTT.
I do not know how to design a framework yet.
I would appreciate guidance.
Kind regards,
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ons that Slixmpp provides.
https://bpa.st/PDNA.
Please advise.
Regards,
Schimon
On Tue, 18 Mar 2025 08:24:29 +0200
Schimon Jehudah via Python-list wrote:
> Good day!
>
> My name is Schimon, and I create software in a form of XMPP contacts
> (i.e. bots) with chat and visual interfa
The reason it doesn't happen very often is that package
maintainers kind of trust each other to be nice. There aren't really
any safeguards to prevent malicious actors from doing this, but you
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On 4/17/25 15:15, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-17, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
Also... when installing stuff with pip --user, it is always a package
that is not installed for the system (usually not even available for
the system). How can that "break system pac
Good day.
Yesterday, I have added support for a new syndication format, Gemini
feed.
Yet, it appears that module urljoin fails at its task, even though
module urlsplit correctly handles Gemini.
Python 3.13.3
>>> from urllib.parse import urljoin
>>> urljoin('gopher://g
On 4/19/2025 4:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:08:36 -0400, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 4/18/2025 11:38 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote:
On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann
his user".
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On 2025-04-17, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>> Also... when installing stuff with pip --user, it is always a package
>> that is not installed for the system (usually not even available for
>> the system). How can that "break system packages"?
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> pip insta
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