On 2024-09-23 at 19:00:10 +0100,
Barry Scott wrote:
> > On 21 Sep 2024, at 11:40, Dan Sommers via Python-list
> > wrote:
> But once your code gets big the disciple of using classes helps
> maintenance. Code with lots of globals is problematic.
Even before your code gets big
Could you show a python code example of this?
On Thu, 26 Sept 2024, 03:08 Cameron Simpson, wrote:
> On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote:
> >How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7?
>
> Every time you make a Thread, make an Event. Pass it to the thread
> worker funct
if it becomes
set.
You just need a per-thred vent instead of a single Event for all the
threads.
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How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7?
On Wed, 25 Sept 2024, 22:47 Cameron Simpson via Python-list, <
[email protected]> wrote:
> On 25Sep2024 19:24, marc nicole wrote:
> >I want to know how to kill a specific running thread (say by its id)
> >
> >for
omputation graph which
takes space but is faster. For function: f:R^m->R, they can run in
O(m^0)=O(1) time and vice versa ( O(m) time for f:R->R^m ).
Almost all neural network training these days use reverse-mode autodiff.
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ou bust out those "next-level math tricks"
> with just a single line each!
You might like:
https://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/dat/miranda/whyfp90.pdf
The numerics stuff starts on page 9.
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On 25Sep2024 22:56, marc nicole wrote:
How to create a per-thread event in Python 2.7?
Every time you make a Thread, make an Event. Pass it to the thread
worker function and keep it to hand for your use outside the thread.
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y)
modify the shared state observed by other threads in such a way that
it becomes unusable to other threads.
So... if you want to kill a thread, I'm sorry to say this: you will
have to bring down the whole process, there's really no other way, and
that's not Python-specific, this is
n2_to_mock` won't call `function1_to_mock` (or its mock)
regardless of whether `function1_to_mock` has been patched, unless you
set the mock of `function2_to_mock` to do so. You don't necessarily
need to patch `function1_to_mock`, unless of course there are other
calls to it that you need to mock.
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On 20Sep2024 12:52, Martin Nilsson wrote:
The attached program doesn’t work in 3.12.5, but in 3.9 it worked.
This mailing list discards attachments.
Please include your code inline in the message text.
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other points via this group).
Enjoy!
Cheers
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[5] python-gnupg - A Python wrapper for
Dear Sirs !
The attached program doesn’t work in 3.12.5, but in 3.9 it worked.
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On 9/30/2024 11:30 AM, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 30 Sep 2024, at 06:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
wrote:
import polars as pl
pl.read_json("file.json")
This is not going to work unless the computer has a lot more the 60GiB of RAM.
As later suggested a
On 2024-09-30, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> Whether and to what degree you can stream JSON depends on JSON
> structure. In general, however, JSON cannot be streamed (but commonly
> it can be).
>
> Imagine a pathological case of this shape: 1... <60GB of digits>. Th
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 02:20, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 9/30/2024 11:30 AM, Barry via Python-list wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 30 Sep 2024, at 06:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
4 at 8:44 AM Asif Ali Hirekumbi via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Thanks Abdur Rahmaan.
> I will give it a try !
>
> Thanks
> Asif
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 11:19 AM Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Idk if you tried Polars, but i
/This announcement is in German since it targets a local user
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This is not the release you’re looking for…
(unless you’re looking for 3.12.7.)
Because no plan survives contact with reality, instead of the actual Python
3.13.0 release we have a new Python 3.13 release candidate today. Python
3.13.0rc3 rolls back the incremental cyclic garbage collector (GC
On 9/30/2024 1:00 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 02:20, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
On 9/30/2024 11:30 AM, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 30 Sep 2024, at 06:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
wrote:
import polars as pl
pl.read_json
On 2024-09-30 at 11:44:50 -0400,
Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-09-30, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> > Whether and to what degree you can stream JSON depends on JSON
> > structure. In general, however, JSON cannot be streamed (but commonly
> > it can b
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 04:30, Dan Sommers via Python-list
wrote:
>
> But why do I need to start with the least
> significant digit?
If you start from the most significant, you don't know anything about
the number until you finish parsing it. There's almost nothing you can
say a
On 9/30/2024 11:30 AM, Barry via Python-list wrote:
On 30 Sep 2024, at 06:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list
wrote:
import polars as pl
pl.read_json("file.json")
This is not going to work unless the computer has a lot more the 60GiB of RAM.
As later suggested a
On 2024-10-01 at 09:09:07 +1000,
Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 08:56, Grant Edwards via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > On 2024-09-30, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote:
> >
> > > In Common Lisp, integers can be written in any inte
On 2024-09-30 at 18:48:02 -0700,
Keith Thompson via Python-list wrote:
> [email protected] writes:
> [...]
> > In Common Lisp, you can write integers as #nnR[digits], where nn is the
> > decimal representation of the base (possibly without a leading zero),
&
igned to be streamed. So, that's not a
> problem (in principle), but you would need to have a streaming GZip
> parser, quick search in PyPI revealed this package:
> https://pypi.org/project/gzip-stream/ .
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 6:20 PM Thomas Passin via Python-list
> wro
ase. So the input #16f is read as the integer 65535.
Typo: You meant #16R, not #16f.
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On 2024-09-30 at 21:34:07 +0200,
Regarding "Re: Help with Streaming and Chunk Processing for Large JSON Data (60
GB) from Kenna API,"
Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> > What am I missing? Handwavingly, start with the first digit, and as
> > long as the next character
ould need to have a streaming GZip
parser, quick search in PyPI revealed this package:
https://pypi.org/project/gzip-stream/ .
On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 6:20 PM Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 9/30/2024 11:30 AM, Barry via Python-list wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 30 Se
On 2024-09-30, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote:
> On 2024-09-30 at 11:44:50 -0400,
> Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote:
>
>> On 2024-09-30, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>> > [...]
>> > Imagine a pathological case of this shape: 1... <60GB of digits&g
On 2024-09-30, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote:
> In Common Lisp, integers can be written in any integer base from two
> to thirty six, inclusive. So knowing the last digit doesn't tell
> you whether an integer is even or odd until you know the base
> anyway.
I had to think
On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 08:56, Grant Edwards via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2024-09-30, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote:
>
> > In Common Lisp, integers can be written in any integer base from two
> > to thirty six, inclusive. So knowing the last digit doesn't tell
>
On 2024-10-01 at 04:46:35 +1000,
Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 at 04:30, Dan Sommers via Python-list
> wrote:
> >
> > But why do I need to start with the least
> > significant digit?
>
> If you start from the most significant, you d
to sync _everything_ (and it hurts!)
On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 5:49 PM Dan Sommers via Python-list
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>
> On 2024-09-30 at 21:34:07 +0200,
> Regarding "Re: Help with Streaming and Chunk Processing for Large JSON Data
> (60 GB) from Kenna API,"
> Left Right via Python-lis
written little
endian instead of big endian, but the same argument applies either
way.
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On 9/18/24 08:49, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's
installed on my Debian Server.
But I need at least Python 3.8
Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later?
Or do I r
On 9/18/2024 10:49 AM, Ulrich Goebel via Python-list wrote:
Hi,
Debian Linux seems to love Python 3.7 - that is shown by apt-get list, and it's
installed on my Debian Server.
But I need at least Python 3.8
Is there a repository which I can give to apt to get Python 3.8 or later?
Or
()
event_thread1.set()
I know that set() will kill all running threads, but if there was thread2
as well and I want to kill only thread1?
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s of
> symbols of the alphabet of fixed length. This is, essentially, like
> saying that the words themselves are regular.
One single IP packet is all you can parse. You're playing shenanigans
with words the way Humpty Dumpty does. IP packets are not sequences,
they are individuals.
ChrisA
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My Software project is working fine in most of the cases
(www.pythonscad.org)
however I am right now isolating a scenario, which makes it crash
permanently.
It does not happen with Python 3.11.6 (and possibly below), it happens with
3.12 and above
It does not happen when not using Threads
P packet is all you can parse. You're playing shenanigans
> with words the way Humpty Dumpty does. IP packets are not sequences,
> they are individuals.
>
> ChrisA
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On 10/2/2024 7:26 AM, Guenther Sohler wrote:
My Software project is working fine in most of the cases
(www.pythonscad.org)
however I am right now isolating a scenario, which makes it crash
permanently.
It does not happen with Python 3.11.6 (and possibly below), it happens with
3.12 and above
that there's no way to tell if my notion of streaming
is correct or not.
But, for the future reference: my notion of streaming is correct, and
you would do better learning some materials about it before jumping to
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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 at 23:53, Left Right via Python-list
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> In the same email you replied to, I gave examples of languages for
> which parsers can be streaming (in general): SCSI or IP.
You can't validate an IP packet without having all of it. Your notion
of "streaming
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Op 5/11/2024 om 15:48 schreef Raymond Boute via Python-list:
L.S.,
Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding
strings and lists that affect the elegance of the language.
(a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not
found by "
think.
BTW you have to be careful testing this, because the compiler sometimes
does constant folding, so you need to be sure it's actually computing
the numbers at run time.
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Some years ago I created a Python program that reads GPS data and
creates an animation stored in an mp4 file. Not very elegant but it
worked. Not very original as it was based on the example found here:
https://shorturl.at/dTCZZ
Last time it worked was about a year ago. Since then I have moved
On 6/11/24 4:13 am, Loris Bennett wrote:
[tool.poetry.dependencies]
python = "^3.6"
first-package = "^1.6.0"
Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement
first-package<2.0.0,>=1.6.0 (from second-package==0.5.0) (from versions: )
No matching distributi
On 05/11/2024 15.48, Raymond Boute wrote:
L.S.,
Python seem to suffer from a few poor design decisions regarding strings
and lists that affect the elegance of the language.
(a) An error-prone "feature" is returning -1 if a substring is not found
by "find", since -1 cur
Greg Ewing writes:
> On 6/11/24 4:13 am, Loris Bennett wrote:
>> [tool.poetry.dependencies]
>> python = "^3.6"
>> first-package = "^1.6.0"
>>Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement
>> first-package<2.0.0,>=1.6.0 (from
Hi,
In Java its possible to work this way
with the Integer datatype, just call
Integer.valueOf().
I am not sure whether CPython does the
same. Because it shows me the same behaviour
for small integers that are more than
only in the range -128 to 128. You can try yourself:
Python 3.14.0a1
For example this article:
https://www.codementor.io/@arpitbhayani/python-caches-integers-16jih595jk
about the integer singletons claims:
>>> x, y = 257, 257
>>> id(x) == id(y)
False
But on Windows my recent CPython doesn't do that:
Python 3.14.0a1 (tags/v3.14.0a1:8
The wiked brain of ChatGPT gives me a lead:
PEP 659
Storing data caches before the bytecode.
Maybe its an effect of constant folding
and constant pooling by the compiler?
Mild Shock schrieb:
For example this article:
https://www.codementor.io/@arpitbhayani/python-caches-integers-16jih595jk
Well you can use your Browser, since
JavaScript understand post and pre increment:
> x = 5
5
> x ++
5
> x = 5
5
> ++ x
6
So we have x ++ equals in Python:
x + = 1
x - 1
And ++ x equals in Python:
x += 1
x
But I don't know how to combine an
assignment and a
This only works for small integers. I guess
this is because tagged pointers are used
nowadays ? For large integers, also known
as bigint, it doesn't work:
Python 3.13.0a1 (tags/v3.13.0a1:ad056f0, Oct 13 2023, 09:51:17)
>>> x, y = 5, 4+1
>>> id(x) == id(y)
True
>>
r of that little treatise.
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at the exception details: they should tell you what really
> was not found (maybe the directory for the logfile).
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On 11/12/24 12:10 PM, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> But, it's
> impossible to reliably rotate a log file. There's always a chance
> that during the rotation some log entries will be written to the file
> past the point of rotation, but prior to the point where the nex
never once worried about problems GNU tail
> might have with a file that gets rotated out from under you. Not sure
> why the author is so fixated on it.
I really wouldn't worry about anything Jonathan de Boyne Pollard says.
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On 11/13/24 23:03, Left Right via Python-list wrote:
>> On any Unix system this is untrue. Rotating a log file is quite simple:
>
> I realized I posted this without cc'ing the list:
> http://jdebp.info/FGA/do-not-use-logrotate.html .
>
> The link above gives a more d
ow I perform multiple checks at each if or while statement, but is
there a IO async based method that breaks out of the loop when the event is
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I'm pleased to announce version 3.4.0, the final release
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What's new in CheetahTemplate3
==
This release spans two topics: adapting to Python 3.13 and
fixes in import hooks.
Bug fixes:
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On Thu, 14 Nov 2024 at 18:05, Left Right via Python-list
wrote:
>
> > On any Unix system this is untrue. Rotating a log file is quite simple:
>
> I realized I posted this without cc'ing the list:
> http://jdebp.info/FGA/do-not-use-logrotate.html .
>
> The lin
hell gives you a really, really simple
> way of redirecting stderr to a file. So, really, there aren't any
> excuses to do that.
I don't quite understand what your suggestion is. Do you mean that I
should log to stderr and then run my program as
my_program ... 2>&1 | logger
?
Cheers,
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On 11/13/24 02:12, Roel Schroeven via Python-list wrote:
What I most often do is use one logfile per day, with the date in the
filename. Then simply delete all files older than 7 days, or 30 days, or
whatever is useful for the task at hand. Not only does that sidestep any
issues with rotating
def __new__(cls, whatever, arguments, you, like):
bytesvalue = compute(whatever, arguments, you, like)
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ob.some_other_att = compute_something_else(whatever, arguments, you,
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Op 3/12/2024 om 10:41 schreef Roel Schroeven via Python-list:
[...]
When I try the same with bytes as base class though, that doesn't work
(at least in the Python version I'm using, which is CPython 3.11.2
64-bit on Windows 10):
class MyBytes(bytes):
def __init__(
Op 3/12/2024 om 13:55 schreef Anders Munch via Python-list:
Roel Schroeven wrote:
> As a follow-up, it looks like this behavior is because bytes and int are
immutable.
Yes.
OK.
> But that doesn't tell me why using super().__init__()
doesn't work for immutable classes.
byt
doesn't work
(at least in the Python version I'm using, which is CPython 3.11.2
64-bit on Windows 10):
class MyBytes(bytes):
def __init__(self, data):
super().__init__(data)
print(MyBytes(b'abcdefghijlkmn'))
This results in an exception:
Traceback (most recen
Thanks a lot Oleg
sincerely yours
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> Hello!
>
> I'm pleased to announce version 3.4.0, the final release
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>
>
>
Op 4/12/2024 om 0:14 schreef Greg Ewing via Python-list:
On 4/12/24 3:24 am, Roel Schroeven wrote:
It's not entirely clear to me though how bytes.__new__ *can* set an
object's value. Isn't __new__ also a regular function?
Yes, but the __new__ methods of the builtin immutable ob
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> Another big release day! Python 3.13.1 and 3.12.8 were regularly scheduled
> releases, but they do contain a few security fixes. That makes it a nice
> time to release the se
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Hello,
The fatal error exits the program with a code -1 while referencing the
memory address involved and nothing else.
How to catch it in Python 2.7?
PS: please not I am not talking about exceptions but an error resulting
from the disconnection of my bluetooth microphone abruptly and leading
On 12/9/24 12:19 PM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
> Hello,
>
> The fatal error exits the program with a code -1 while referencing the
> memory address involved and nothing else.
>
> How to catch it in Python 2.7?
Does the problem occur with Python 3.x? At this date,
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 09:22, aotto1968 via Python-list
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>
> On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> >> sorry you don't understand the problem…
> >>
> >> > You managed to make a
I have a Python script that filters my incoming E-Mail. It has been
working OK (with various updates and improvements) for many years.
I now have a minor new problem when handling E-Mail with a From: that
has accented characters in it:-
From: Sébastien Crignon
I use Python mailbox to
Stefan Ram wrote:
> Chris Green wrote or quoted:
> >From: =?utf-8?B?U8OpYmFzdGllbiBDcmlnbm9u?=
>
> In Python, when you roll with decode_header from the email.header
> module, it spits out a list of parts, where each part is like
> a tuple of (decoded string, cha
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 14:31:24 +, Chris Green wrote:
> I have a Python script that filters my incoming E-Mail. It has been
> working OK (with various updates and improvements) for many years.
>
> I now have a minor new problem when handling E-Mail with a From: that
> has accente
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On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> sorry you don't understand the problem…
>
> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>
> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> sqalite3.
The *only*
On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list
> wrote:
>> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error because:
>>
>> 1) "cnf" is using OS python
>> 2) os "r
On 12/25/24 8:55 PM, Michael Torrie wrote:
> This is Python related, but
> it's not necessarily python's fault per se.
It's also a good reminder to use venv. Then there's no way of
activating your custom python with its custom sqlite3 library unless you
explicitly ac
On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 14:57, Michael Torrie via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 12/25/24 3:55 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 09:27, aotto1968 via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> It is not only an *usage* error it is also an *security* error
On 12/25/24 10:46 PM, Chris Angelico wrote:
> Right. That's exactly what would happen if he'd built Python using
> absolute paths to libraries, which is the normal way to do it. And so
> the solution is to rebuild Python using absolute paths to libraries.
You're right. De
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On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote:
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this discussion, why is the
subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for discussion? Has the list been
moving towards closing?
No, the list's still around. But there wa
On 12/29/24 15:10, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote:
On 29Dec2024 07:16, Kevin M. Wilson wrote:
Excuse please, my failure. As I have not been following this
discussion, why is the subject "Python List Is NOT Dead" a subject for
discussion? Has the list been moving towards clo
On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 at 15:02, aotto1968 via Python-list
wrote:
> > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a DLL
>
> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> sqalite3.
You keep saying this, but do you even know what "make
thank you Mr. Jahangir.
you are expert in python.
On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:28 AM Cameron Simpson via Python-list <
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> On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
> >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
>
On 2024-12-27, Chris Green via Python-list wrote:
> Cameron Simpson wrote:
>> On 25Dec2024 14:52, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer wrote:
>> >I have been following discussions on Discourse (discuss.python.org)
>> >these last times.
>> >
>> >I think tha
Maybe you'd better use descriptors?
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 at 23:03, Ian Pilcher via Python-list <
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> (Note: I have mail delivery disabled for this list and read it through
> GMane. Please copy me on any responses, so that I can respond with
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