Re: help

2024-05-13 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/12/2024 7:56 PM, Enrder via Python-list wrote: good tader I need help to install the bcml, and is that after installing the python and I go to the command prompt and put ''pip install bcml'' to install it tells me "pip" is not recognized as a

Re: Terminal Emulator

2024-05-14 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: > I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly competent > Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What references can I > use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for it to be a true > terminal

Re: Terminal Emulator

2024-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: > >> I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly >> competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What >> references can I use

Re: Terminal Emulator

2024-05-14 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-14, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > On 14/05/2024 18:44, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: > >> I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly >> competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What >> references can I use

RE: Terminal Emulator

2024-05-14 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
The topic was to re-invent the wheel yet again and create a terminal emulator. I hesitate to say this but one approach is to consider the curses module as described by our very own Alan Gauld in a book: https://www.amazon.com/Programming-curses-Python-Alan-Gauld-ebook/dp/B091B85 B77 The topic

Re: Terminal Emulator

2024-05-14 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
On 14May2024 18:44, Gordinator wrote: I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What references can I use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for it to be a true terminal emulator as well, not just a Tk text

Re: Version of NymPy

2024-05-15 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
On Wed, May 15, 2024 at 2:43 PM Popov, Dmitry Yu via Python-list wrote: > > What would be the easiest way to learn which version of NumPy I have with my > Anaconda distribution? >>> import numpy >>> numpy.__version__ '1.24.4' -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Version of NymPy

2024-05-16 Thread Left Right via Python-list
umPy versions installed at the same time, although only one will be available to the Python process (note that this means that sub-processes created in this Python process won't necessarily have the same version of NumPy!). To make matters worse, it's common for Anaconda users to use pip t

PyCon

2024-05-17 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time! -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyCon

2024-05-17 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
LOn Fri, May 17, 2024 at 8:57 PM Larry Martell wrote: > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time! s/haven’t/having/ -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyCon

2024-05-18 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
> > > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time! > > s/haven’t/having/ > No need to explain/correct. We understand you are excited. Many of us have been in the same state before. ;-) Enjoy, Skip > -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: PyCon

2024-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sat, 18 May 2024 at 21:44, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote: > > > > > > I’m at PyCon in Pittsburgh and I’m haven’t an amazing time! > > > > s/haven’t/having/ > > > > No need to explain/correct. We understand you are excited. Many of us have >

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: > On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: > >> To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I >> guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we're even. > > I don

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/18/24 10:48, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-18, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-16 19:46:07 +0100, Gordinator via Python-list wrote: To be fair, the problem is the fact that they use Windows (but I guess Linux users have to deal with venvs, so we&#x

Re: PyCon

2024-05-18 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Sun, 19 May 2024 at 04:10, Abdur-Rahmaan Janhangeer via Python-list wrote: > > Yes, this year's pretty exciting, great keynotes, great lightnings, great > location, great even sponsor talks (thought they would be pumping a lot of > marketing, but the ones i went were pretty aw

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-18, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: > Distros have do offer a good selection of packaged Python bits, yes, but > only for the version of Python that's "native" to that distro release. > If you need to test other versions of Python, you're mostly on

Re: Terminal Emulator

2024-05-18 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
On 14/05/2024 19.44, Gordinator wrote: I wish to write a terminal emulator in Python. I am a fairly competent Python user, and I wish to try a new project idea. What references can I use when writing my terminal emulator? I wish for it to be a true terminal emulator as well, not just a Tk text

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-18 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
On 18/05/2024 20.04, Mats Wichmann wrote: [...] So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's so down on venvs... Only people which are *not* using python... :-) In my experience, venvs is the only possible way to use python properly. The dependency nigh

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote: >> So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's >> so down on venvs... Not so much down on them, they are just one extra step that's mostly not needed(in my use case) > Only peo

Re: venvs vs. package management

2024-05-19 Thread Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-19, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: >> The dependency nightmare created by python, pip >> and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise. > > I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare". > I install stuff and it just works. Same here. I occ

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/19/2024 3:32 AM, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote: [snip] The dependency nightmare created by python, pip and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise. I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare".

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Dan Sommers via Python-list
On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: > Was there a reason they chose the name Pip? Package Installer for Python https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html Every time I see PIP, I think Peripheral Interchange Program, but I'm old. -- https://mail.py

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Dan Sommers via Python-list
On 2024-05-19 at 18:13:23 +, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: > Was there a reason they chose the name Pip? Package Installer for Python https://pip.pypa.io/en/stable/index.html -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Karsten Hilbert via Python-list
Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:45:09PM +0100 schrieb Barry via Python-list: > > On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs > > Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users ins

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Skip Montanaro via Python-list
o compile the most recent branches on GitHub (main, 3.12, & 3.13 at the moment). Skip -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Roel Schroeven via Python-list
Skip Montanaro via Python-list schreef op 20/05/2024 om 0:08: Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. > Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing to run it as root. I assumed pip install --user would work, but no. I trie

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-19, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2024 08:32:46 +0100, Alan Gauld wrote: > >> I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare". >> I install stuff and it just works. > > Hear! Hear! Me too! And all that. > > I

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-19, Barry via Python-list wrote: > > >> On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list >> wrote: >> >> I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs > > Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. You

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/19/2024 6:08 PM, Skip Montanaro via Python-list wrote: Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing using pip. Even if you're telling it to install in ~/.local? I could see not allowing to run it as root. I honestly haven't tried. Maybe I should... 🤔 I have an

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/19/2024 6:34 PM, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-19, Barry via Python-list wrote: On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora block users installing usin

Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited)

2024-05-19 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/19/2024 6:00 PM, Karsten Hilbert via Python-list wrote: Am Sun, May 19, 2024 at 10:45:09PM +0100 schrieb Barry via Python-list: On 18 May 2024, at 16:27, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: I don't think Linux users have to deal with venvs Modern debian (ubuntu) and fedora

Re: venvs vs. package management

2024-05-20 Thread Left Right via Python-list
There are several independent problems here: 1. Very short release cycle. This is independent of the Python venv module but is indirectly influenced by Python's own release cycle. Package maintainers don't have time for proper testing, they are encouraged to release a bunch of new (

pip and venvs on Debian (was: Terminal Emulator)

2024-05-20 Thread Akkana Peck via Python-list
Alan Gauld via Python-list writes: > On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote: > > >> So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's > >> so down on venvs... > > Not so much down on them, they are just one extra

Re: pip and venvs on Debian

2024-05-21 Thread Roel Schroeven via Python-list
Op 20/05/2024 om 23:48 schreef Akkana Peck via Python-list: Every so often I need to regenerate it (like when Debian updates the system Python version) but that's easy to do: I don't try to duplicate what's installed there, I just delete the old venv, create a new one and th

Re: Weird Stuff (Markdown, syntax highlighting and Python)

2024-05-27 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-26, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: > The web claims (I think on all pages I've read about Markdown and Python) > that this code should work, with some very minor variants on the topic: > > ```python > > import os > > with open(os.path.join('/h

Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp

2024-05-27 Thread Dan Sommers via Python-list
On 2024-05-27 at 12:37:01 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: > > On 5/27/2024 7:18 AM, Cor wrote: > > Some entity, AKA "B. Pym" , > > wrote this mindboggling stuff: > > (selectively-snipped-or-not-p) > > > > > On 12/16/2023, c...@clsn

Re: Weird Stuff (Markdown, syntax highlighting and Python)

2024-05-27 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/26/2024 2:28 AM, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote: The web claims (I think on all pages I've read about Markdown and Python) that this code should work, with some very minor variants on the topic: ```python import os with open(os.path.join('/home/user/apath', &#

Serializing pydantic enums

2024-05-28 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
ct of type FinishReason is not JSON serializable I get the object not the value: (Pdb) Choice(finish_reason=FinishReason.stop) Choice(finish_reason=) Also tried it with .value, same result. What am I missing here? -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Serializing pydantic enums

2024-05-28 Thread Left Right via Python-list
Most Python objects aren't serializable into JSON. Pydantic isn't special in this sense. What can you do about this? -- Well, if this is a one-of situation, then, maybe just do it by hand? If this is a recurring problem: json.dumps() takes a cls argument that will be used to do the ser

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-28 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
for i, chr in enumerate(name): # do something with the character Also, it's 2024 ... time to start using f-strings (because they are more readable than str.format()) On 5/29/2024 12:33 AM, Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list wrote: The following is my effort to understand how to process a string

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-28 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
Personally I wouldn't even go that far, just: print('if block', name[index], 'and index', index) But there are plenty of places where f-strings are very useful. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 29 May 2024 at 16:03, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote: > By which Thomas means stuff like this: > > print(f'if block {name[index]} and index {index}') > > Notice the leading "f'". Personally I wouldn't even go that far, just: >

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/29/2024 3:14 AM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Wed, 29 May 2024 at 16:03, Cameron Simpson via Python-list wrote: By which Thomas means stuff like this: print(f'if block {name[index]} and index {index}') Notice the leading "f'". Personally I

Formatted Output and Argument Parsing (was: Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?)

2024-05-29 Thread Dan Sommers via Python-list
On 2024-05-29 at 17:14:51 +1000, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > I wouldn't replace str.format() everywhere, nor would I replace > percent encoding everywhere - but in this case, I think Thomas is > correct. Not because it's 2024 (f-strings were brought in back in

Re: Formatted Output and Argument Parsing (was: Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?)

2024-05-29 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 29 May 2024 at 23:06, Dan Sommers via Python-list wrote: > (For the history-impaired, getopt existed long before Python and will > likely exist long after it, but getopt's "replacement" optparse lasted > only from 2003 until 2011.) Depends on your definition of &q

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-29, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > print(f"if block {name[index]=} {index=}") Holy cow! How did I not know about the f-string {=} thing? -- Grant -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/29/24 08:02, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-29, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: print(f"if block {name[index]=} {index=}") Holy cow! How did I not know about the f-string {=} thing? It's more recent than f-strings in general, so it's n

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
ll not be burned: the flames will not set you ablaze." *Isaiah 43:2 * On Wednesday, May 29, 2024 at 06:19:56 AM MDT, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 5/29/2024 3:14 AM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: > On Wed, 29 May 2024 at 16:03, Cameron Simpson via Python-list

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Barry Scott via Python-list
> On 29 May 2024, at 05:38, Kevin M. Wilson via Python-list > wrote: > > The format in this email is not of my making, should someone know, how to do > this so that it's a readable script do tell! > KMW Your mail program may have a plain-text mode to compose mess

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-29, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote: > On 5/29/24 08:02, Grant Edwards via Python-list wrote: >> On 2024-05-29, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: >> >>> print(f"if block {name[index]=} {index=}") >> >> Holy cow! How did I not kn

Re: Flubbed it in the second interation through the string: range error... HOW?

2024-05-29 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/29/2024 10:59 AM, MRAB via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-29 15:32, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: On 5/29/2024 8:55 AM, Kevin M. Wilson wrote: Please recall, I said the format for the email failed to retain the proper indents. I'll attach a picture of the code! Purpos

Re: Serializing pydantic enums

2024-05-29 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:46 AM Left Right via Python-list wrote: > > Most Python objects aren't serializable into JSON. Pydantic isn't > special in this sense. > > What can you do about this? -- Well, if this is a one-of situation, > then, maybe just do it by hand

Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp

2024-05-29 Thread Kaz Kylheku via Python-list
and location systems * radio interface to Caterpillar vehicle, including CRCC error detection * automatically generated user interface" -- TXR Programming Language: http://nongnu.org/txr Cygnal: Cygwin Native Application Library: http://kylheku.com/cygnal Mastodon: @[email protected] -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Serializing pydantic enums

2024-05-29 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
On Wed, May 29, 2024 at 12:27 PM Larry Martell wrote: > > On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:46 AM Left Right via Python-list > wrote: > > > > Most Python objects aren't serializable into JSON. Pydantic isn't > > special in this sense. > > > > What ca

Re: Serializing pydantic enums

2024-05-29 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/29/24 13:27, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 11:46 AM Left Right via Python-list wrote: Most Python objects aren't serializable into JSON. Pydantic isn't special in this sense. What can you do about this? -- Well, if this is a one-of situation, t

Re: Any marginally usable programming language approaches an ill defined barely usable re-implementation of half of Common-Lisp

2024-05-29 Thread Dan Sommers via Python-list
On 2024-05-29 at 11:39:14 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: > On 5/27/2024 1:59 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenspun%27s_tenth_rule [...] > Are the Rules 1--9 by Greenspun good too? I don't know; let me look it

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-05-31 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-05-31, Pieter van Oostrum via Python-list wrote: > HenHanna writes: > >> Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... >> >> could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd >> give me a list of all words occurring exactly o

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-05-31 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
HenHanna wrote at 2024-5-30 13:03 -0700: > >Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... > >could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd >give me a list of all words occurring exactly once? Your task can be split into several subtasks: * parse

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-05-31 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 5/30/2024 4:03 PM, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python program that'd give me a list of all words occurring exactly once?   -- Also, a list of words occurring once,

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-01 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/1/2024 4:04 AM, Peter J. Holzer via Python-list wrote: On 2024-05-30 19:26:37 -0700, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: hard to decide what to do with hyphens and apostrophes (I'd, he's, can't, haven't, A's and B's) Especial

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-01 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 5/31/24 11:59, Dieter Maurer via Python-list wrote: hmmm, I "sent" this but there was some problem and it remained unsent. Just in case it hasn't All Been Said Already, here's the retry: HenHanna wrote at 2024-5-30 13:03 -0700: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUly

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-03 Thread Edward Teach via Python-list
On Sat, 1 Jun 2024 13:34:11 -0600 Mats Wichmann wrote: > On 5/31/24 11:59, Dieter Maurer via Python-list wrote: > > hmmm, I "sent" this but there was some problem and it remained > unsent. Just in case it hasn't All Been Said Already, here's the > retry: >

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-03 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list wrote: > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's another > problem, because "plain text" means UTF-8and that means > unicode...and that means running some sort of unicode-to-ascii > conversion

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Dieter Maurer via Python-list
CII (of course with enhanced letter, digits, punctuation, etc.) -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Edward Teach via Python-list
On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list > wrote: > > > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's another > > problem, because "plain text" means UTF-8and that m

IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-04 Thread Cave Man via Python-list
Hello everyone, I am new to Python, and I have been using IDLE (v3.10.11) to run small Python code. However, I have seen that the output scrolls to the bottom in the output window. Is there a way to clear the output window (something like cls in command prompt or clear in terminal), so

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-04, Edward Teach via Python-list wrote: > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) > Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list >> wrote: >> >> > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text". That's ano

RE: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
s and counts and so on. As mentioned, the default native format in Python is UNICODE and ASCII files being read in may well be UNICODE internally unless you carefully ask otherwise. The conversion from ASCII to UNICODE is trivial. As for how well the regular expressions like \w work in general, I

Fwd: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-04 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
Welcome to Python!  A great language for program development. Answers might be platform-dependent (are you using WIndows, Linux, etc.). However, the following works for me on WIndows.  You can put it in the startup.py file so you don't have to type it every time you start up the IDLE. i

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-04 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 02:49, Edward Teach via Python-list wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Jun 2024 14:58:26 -0400 (EDT) > Grant Edwards wrote: > > > On 2024-06-03, Edward Teach via Python-list > > wrote: > > > > > The Gutenburg Project publishes "plain text&quo

Re: Fwd: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-04 Thread Cameron Simpson via Python-list
s(): os.system("cls") should be just fine. -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-05 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-05, dn via Python-list wrote: > If you/your teacher can't define a "word", the code, any code, will > almost-certainly be wrong! Back when I was a student... When there was a homework/project assignemnt with a vague requirement (and it wasn't practi

Re: Fwd: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-05 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
and your function returns None. So:     def cls():     os.system("cls") should be just fine. Yes, you're right. Rob Cliffe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-06 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/5/2024 12:33 AM, dn via Python-list wrote: On 31/05/24 14:26, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: On 5/30/2024 2:18 PM, dn wrote: On 31/05/24 08:03, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Given a text file of a novel (JoyceUlysses.txt) ... could someone give me a pretty fast (and simple) Python

[RELEASE] Python 3.13.0 beta 2 released.

2024-06-06 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
After a little bit of a delay (I blame the flat tire on my rental car), 3.13.0b2 is released: https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b2/ <https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130b2/> <https://discuss.python.org/t/3-13-0b2-now-available/55056#this-is-a-beta-p

[RELEASE] Python 3.12.4 released

2024-06-06 Thread Thomas Wouters via Python-list
Last minute bugs in test environments notwithstanding, 3.12.4 is now available! https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3124/ <https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3124/> <https://discuss.python.org/t/python-3-12-4-now-available/55128#this-is-the-third-maintenance-r

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Mats Wichmann via Python-list
On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the list.  I often wonder how these askers can possibly come up with acceptable code if they don't realize they don't truly know what it's supposed to do

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Larry Martell via Python-list
On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:39 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: > On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > > > Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the > > list. I often wonder how these askers c

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/8/2024 11:54 AM, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote: On Sat, Jun 8, 2024 at 10:39 AM Mats Wichmann via Python-list < [email protected]> wrote: On 6/5/24 05:10, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: Of course, we see this lack of clarity all the time in questions to the li

RE: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
was better for their display than required. But until people see such output, unless they have lots of experience, it cannot be expected they can tell you up-front what they want. One danger of languages like Python is that often people get the code you supply and modify it themselves or reuse

Re: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-08 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
ot;>>>" prompt appears on the SECOND line. (This blank line is because the IDLE prints the blank value returned by "return ''" and adds a newline to it, as it does when printing the value of any expression.) Best wishes Rob Cliffe -- https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
e see such output, unless they have lots of experience, it cannot be expected they can tell you up-front what they want. One danger of languages like Python is that often people get the code you supply and modify it themselves or reuse it on some project they consider similar. That can be a

RE: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
simple way of making words. Note, the above logic applies not to just python but most programming environments. If someone interviewed me for a job in say, Rust, which I am just now learning out of curiosity, I might not know how to program some parts of a problem like this, let alone make use of

Re: From JoyceUlysses.txt -- words occurring exactly once

2024-06-08 Thread Grant Edwards via Python-list
On 2024-06-08, Larry Martell via Python-list wrote: > The original question struck me as homework or an interview question for a > junior position. But having no clear requirements or specifications is good > training for the real world where that is often the case. When you question &g

Re: IDLE: clearing the screen

2024-06-09 Thread Alan Gauld via Python-list
On 08/06/2024 20:18, Rob Cliffe via Python-list wrote: > OK, here is the advanced version: > import os > class _cls(object): >     def __repr__(self): >         os.system('cls') >         return '' > cls = _cls() > > Now when you type > cls &g

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-09 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
would be trivial, perhaps leveraging the above. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of HenHanna via Python-list Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 5:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3)) Chunk, ChunkC -- nice si

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-09 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
would ask questions more clearly and perhaps explain what language they are showing us code from and so on. Life is too short to waste. -Original Message- From: Python-list On Behalf Of HenHanna via Python-list Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2024 5:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: in Python

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-10 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
> i was just curiuos about simple, clever way to write it in Python It depends on what you mean by "clever". For some, it was like a suggestion on using something already available such as itertools.groupby, perhaps even better if it is actually compiled in from a language like

Re: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-11 Thread Rob Cliffe via Python-list
## Program output: ['aaa', 'bb', '', 'aa'] [('a', 3), ('b', 2), ('c', 4), ('a', 2)] Rob Cliffe On 09/06/2024 22:20, HenHanna via Python-list wrote: Chunk, ChunkC -- nice simple way(s) to write these in Python? (Ch

RE: in Python? -- Chunk -- (ChunkC '(a a b b b)), ==> ((a 2) (b 3))

2024-06-11 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
#x27;, 'c', 'c'], ['singleton']] >>> chunkC([1, 2, 2, 'c', 'c', 'c', 'singleton']) [[1, 1], [2, 2], ['c', 3], ['singleton', 1]] # COMMENTS The current version has flaws I have not bothered correcting. Jus

Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread marc nicole via Python-list
I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the error message I get is: ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement numpy (from > versions: none) > ERROR: No matching distribution found for numpy > c:\python27\lib\site-packages\pip\_vendor\url

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Wed, 12 Jun 2024 at 21:32, marc nicole via Python-list wrote: > > I am trying to install numpy library on Python 2.7.15 in PyCharm but the > error message I get is: > > You can upgrade to a newer version of Python to solve this. The answer is right there in the error m

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
so for stopping updates. In that case, hardware was a concern for some as Windows 11 did not work on their machines. With upgrading python, the main concern is having to get someone to examine old code and try to make it compatible. But anyone doing new code in Python 2 in recent years should

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
Change is hard even when it may be necessary. The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous one. My current PC was not upgradable because of the new hardware requirement Microsoft decided was needed for Windows 11. I

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: > > Change is hard even when it may be necessary. > > The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. > > Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous one. What decision? To not release a

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Thomas Passin via Python-list
On 6/12/2024 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote: On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 03:41, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote: Change is hard even when it may be necessary. The argument often is about whether some things are necessary or not. Python made a decision but clearly not a unanimous

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 06:55, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote: > The project cannot move to a Python-3 compatible version because Jython > 3.xx doesn't exist and may never exist. The saving grace is that my > project doesn't have to use packages like numpy, scipy, and so

RE: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread AVI GROSS via Python-list
Chris, Since you misunderstood, my statement was that making an incompatible set of changes to create Python 3 in the first place was a decision made by some and perhaps not one that thrilled others who already had an embedded base of programs or ones in the pipeline that would need much work to

Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7

2024-06-12 Thread Chris Angelico via Python-list
On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 07:36, wrote: > But if the goal was to deprecate python 2 and in some sense phase it out, it > is perhaps not working well for some. Frankly, issuing so many updates like > 2.7 and including backporting of new features has helped make it possible to > delay

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