On Fri, 12 Jan 2024, AVI GROSS via Python-list wrote:
But is the solution a good one for some purpose? The two output files may
end up being out of sync for all kinds of reasons. One of many "errors"
can happen if multiple lines in a row do not have an "@" or a person'
To people discussing BNF:
The grammar language Python uses is *very* far from BNF. It's more
similar to PEG, but even then it's still quite far. Python's grammar
is just its own thing, which makes it harder to read, if you are
already familiar with other more popular formats.
last):
File "", line 1, in
NameError: name 'i' is not defined
There's no destructuring going on here, just assignment to a
sequence item.
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> surprising for me:
Surprise is subjective, it's based on personal experience. Very few
languages allow arbitrary complex expressions in the same place they
allow variable introduction. The fact that "i" is not defined is
irrelevant to this example. Most programmers who haven&
Actually, after some Web search. I think, based on this:
https://docs.python.org/3/reference/simple_stmts.html#grammar-token-python-grammar-augtarget
that in Python you call this "augmented assignment target". The term
isn't in the glossary, but so are many others.
On Sat, Ja
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 13:11, Left Right via Python-list
wrote:
>
> Very few
> languages allow arbitrary complex expressions in the same place they
> allow variable introduction.
What do you mean by this? Most languages I've worked with allow
variables to be initializ
On 2024-01-13 at 02:02:39 +0100,
Left Right via Python-list wrote:
> Actually, after some Web search. I think, based on this:
> https://docs.python.org/3/reference/simple_stmts.html#grammar-token-python-grammar-augtarget
> that in Python you call this "augmented assignment tar
On 2024-01-13 at 11:34:29 +0100,
Left Right wrote:
> > The Python term, at least colloquially, is "tuple unpacking."
That quote is from me. Please do preserve attributions.
> Well, why use colloquialism if there's a language specification? Also,
> there weren'
Hi all,
I have a csv OLAP dataset that I want to extract the domain hierarchies
from each of its dimensions.
Anybody could recommend a Python tool that could manage this properly?
Thanks
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On 13/01/24 1:45 pm, Left Right wrote:
I use the term "destructuring" in the same way Hyperspec uses it.
It's not a Python term. I don't know what you call the same thing in
Python. I'm not sure what you understand from it.
I thought you meant what is usually called
On 13/01/24 3:14 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 13:11, Left Right via Python-list
wrote:
Very few
languages allow arbitrary complex expressions in the same place they
allow variable introduction.
What do you mean by this? Most languages I've worked with allow
vari
Am Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:23:43PM +0100 schrieb Antoon Pardon via Python-list:
> > queries:list[dict[str, str | list | dict[str, Any]]]=None,
> >
> >into
> >
> > "List[Dict[str, Union[str, List[Any], Dict[str, Any"
> >
> >seems
Am Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 09:20:00PM +0100 schrieb Karsten Hilbert via
Python-list:
> > I was wondering if
> > your type hint for queries shouldn't be the following.
> >
> > queries:list[dict[str,str]|dict[str,list]|dict[str,dict[str, dict[str,
> > Ant]]]
Wait,
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 at 14:43, dn via Python-list wrote:
> Similarly, whilst we could write:
>
> a, b, c = 1, 2, 3
>
I would only do this when it aligns particularly well with the
algorithm being implemented. For example, you could start a Fibonacci
evaluator with "a, b =
On Sun, 14 Jan 2024 at 23:28, Left Right wrote:
> Having worked with a bunch of different grammar languages, the one
> used for Python isn't a recognizable BNF derivative.
That might possibly be because it isn't? It's not BNF. It's PEG. Or
are you a long way behind the
Am 09.01.2024 um 12:36 schrieb Barry Scott via Python-list:
On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
wrote:
Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions are on two different computers.
Will remove the "/env" from my shebang lines, even if I don't un
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 00:27, Left Right wrote:
>
> > What do you mean?
> >
> > for x in lambda: ...:
> > ...
> >
> > Perfectly grammatical.
>
> 1. You put the lambda definition in the wrong place (it should be in
> the left-hand side, or as Pytho
On 1/14/2024 7:48 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
Am 09.01.2024 um 12:36 schrieb Barry Scott via Python-list:
On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
wrote:
Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions are on two different
computers.
Will remove the "
It can be worth considering why a language is designed or altered in certain
ways to see if there was a tradeoff that made it seem worthwhile or easier
than some other choice.
Python grew and there was regular pressure to add keywords which might break
existing programs. So, yes, sometimes, a
On 1/14/2024 8:54 AM, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/14/2024 7:48 AM, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
Am 09.01.2024 um 12:36 schrieb Barry Scott via Python-list:
On 7 Jan 2024, at 15:09, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
wrote:
Oh, and the two Windows and Python versions
the one where a method is
finally called using some diamond algorithm. It is both extremely powerful
but also silly to overuse such features.
Avi
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 08:15, Left Right wrote:
> Python grammar rules prevent function definition from
> appearing in left-hand side of the head of the for loop. However, a
> variable declaration, which is also a statement, is allowed there.
What is a "variable declaration"
> What do you mean?
>
> for x in lambda: ...:
> ...
>
> Perfectly grammatical.
1. You put the lambda definition in the wrong place (it should be in
the left-hand side, or as Python calls it "star_targets", but you put
it into "star_expressions", which would
bles
are allowed on both sides of unification, but Prolog doesn't have
function application in the same sense Python has, so it's still OK.
In general, in languages that aren't like Prolog, conceptually, it's
possible to either *define* variables (with optional initialization)
or t
al differences between what Python grammar
language does and what you'd expect from anything that's based on BNF,
modified or not:
Python isn't a context-free language, so the grammar that is used to
describe it doesn't actually describe the language... so, it's a
&quo
7;t want function
definition to be an assignment target. I was giving an example of how
Python grammar works, how the rules govern what can or cannot be used
in a particular place...
In other words, if you aren't sure you understand the question, why
are you trying to reply to it? Is your goal to l
nd just let you pop up a variable as in "x=5" both
declares and instantiates a variable. Strictly speaking, in a language like
python, everything is an object and some of the way of creating them remains
bound to other ideas like declaring a class uses key words as does declaring a
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 09:40, dn via Python-list wrote:
> The basic challenge came from my earlier (and blasé) repetition of the
> Python refrain "everything in Python is an object". Which led to:
>
> <<<
> For example, you may say "functions in Pyth
Whoa, Олег Сивоконь!
I do not understand any arguments about whether comments are, or are not an
object.
From one perspective, python comments have even less meaning than whitespace
and simply do not exist. I mean once a naked "#" is seen, the rest of that
line is effectively discar
t trick. I did read that PEP
but it has no relevance for my mixed Windows/Linux environments. On reflection
I now believe I won't use py.exe because it introduces an unnecessary layer of
indirection.The bottom line is that you still need to know which Python a
particular set of circumstan
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 12:12, dn via Python-list wrote:
> Here's another witticism I'll often toss at trainees (in many languages,
> and especially in UX): just because we can do it, doesn't make it a good
> idea!
>
Programming. We were so busy with whether we COULD t
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 12:42, dn via Python-list wrote:
>
> On 15/01/24 14:33, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> > On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 12:12, dn via Python-list
> > wrote:
> >> Here's another witticism I'll often toss at trainees (in many langua
On 13/01/24 11:34 pm, Left Right wrote:
To make this
shorter, Python allows:
for in ... : ...
Um, no, it doesn't. An assignment target is not, on its own, a
statement.
It's hard to make sense of what you're saying. You seem to be
surprised by the fact that Python doesn'
On 15/01/24 1:28 am, Left Right wrote:
Python isn't a context-free language, so the grammar that is used to
describe it doesn't actually describe the language
Very few languages have a formal grammar that *fully* describes
the set of strings that constitute valid programs, includi
On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 18:56, Greg Ewing via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 15/01/24 1:28 am, Left Right wrote:
> > Python isn't a context-free language, so the grammar that is used to
> > describe it doesn't actually describe the language
>
> Very few languages
cal, Turbo Pascal, Delphi, etc.
enjoyed a lot of popularity. A variant of UCSD was the main language
for Macintosh application development for a number of years.
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using regular expressions.
Although some might consider that this doesn't contradict
your statement about readability. :-)
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On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 19:26, Greg Ewing via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 15/01/24 9:07 pm, Chris Angelico wrote:
> > The grammar *can't* specify everything. If it did, it would have to
> > have rules for combining individual letters into a NAME and individual
> > cha
Op 14/01/2024 om 13:28 schreef Left Right via Python-list:
Python isn't a context-free language, so the grammar that is used to
describe it doesn't actually describe the language... so, it's a
"pretend grammar" that ignores indentation.
No it doesn't. Here is
Hi all
I have read that one should not have to worry about garbage collection
in modern versions of Python - it 'just works'.
I don't want to rely on that. My app is a long-running server, with
multiple clients logging on, doing stuff, and logging off. They can
create many o
> I do have several circular references. My experience is that if I do not
> take some action to break the references when closing the session, the
> objects remain alive. Below is a very simple program to illustrate this.
>
> Am I missing something? All comments appreciated.
Py
Am 15.01.2024 um 00:46 schrieb Mike Dewhirst via Python-list:
In Windows the provided methods for running complex command lines are either a
batch file or a shortcut.Someone very kindly pointed out to me in this thread
that there is a PEP for py.exe. I don't use py.exe originally beca
On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
First and foremost I want to understand why I'm seeing this:
- Python scripts with "/usr/bin/env python3" as shebang line work as
expected on a computer with Windows 10 and Python 3.11.5. They have
worked for years
On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
In the Python documentation for versions 3.11 and 3.12 I found no
differences regarding py.exe and shebang lines.
Then I removed the "/env" from the shebang lines and could start the
scripts from the second computer. That ce
Frank Millman wrote at 2024-1-15 15:51 +0200:
>I have read that one should not have to worry about garbage collection
>in modern versions of Python - it 'just works'.
There are still some isolated cases when not all objects
in an unreachable cycle are destroyed
(see e.g.
On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
First and foremost I want to understand why I'm seeing this:
- Python scripts with "/usr/bin/env python3" as shebang line work as
expected on a computer with
> Frank Millman wrote at 2024-1-15 15:51 +0200:
> >I have read that one should not have to worry about garbage collection
> >in modern versions of Python - it 'just works'.
Dieter Maurer via Python-list writes:
> There are still some isolated cases when not all objec
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 06:32, Akkana Peck via Python-list
wrote:
>
> > Frank Millman wrote at 2024-1-15 15:51 +0200:
> > >I have read that one should not have to worry about garbage collection
> > >in modern versions of Python - it 'just works'.
>
> Diet
On 1/15/24 12:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
On 1/15/24 09:44, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
First and foremost I want to understand why I'm seeing this:
- Python scripts with "/usr/bin/env python3"
Greg
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On 1/15/2024 6:27 PM, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 16/01/24 11:55 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
Windows natively has something called python.exe and python3.exe which
is interfering here
I'm wondering whether py.exe should be taught to recognise these stubs
and ignore them. This s
I wrote:
> > Also be warned that some modules (particularly if they're based on
> > libraries not written in Python) might not garbage collect, so you may need
> > to use other methods of cleaning up after those objects.
Chris Angelico writes:
> Got any examples of tha
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 13:49, Akkana Peck via Python-list
wrote:
>
> I wrote:
> > > Also be warned that some modules (particularly if they're based on
> > > libraries not written in Python) might not garbage collect, so you may
> > > need to use other meth
On 1/15/2024 9:47 PM, Akkana Peck via Python-list wrote:
I wrote:
Also be warned that some modules (particularly if they're based on libraries
not written in Python) might not garbage collect, so you may need to use other
methods of cleaning up after those objects.
Chris Angelico w
On 1/15/2024 7:24 PM, Thomas Passin wrote:
On 1/15/2024 6:27 PM, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 16/01/24 11:55 am, Mats Wichmann wrote:
Windows natively has something called python.exe and python3.exe
which is interfering here
I'm wondering whether py.exe should be taught to reco
On 2024-01-15 3:51 PM, Frank Millman via Python-list wrote:
Hi all
I have read that one should not have to worry about garbage collection
in modern versions of Python - it 'just works'.
I don't want to rely on that. My app is a long-running server, with
multiple clients lo
On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 23:08, Frank Millman via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-15 3:51 PM, Frank Millman via Python-list wrote:
> > Hi all
> >
> > I have read that one should not have to worry about garbage collection
> > in modern versions of Python - it 'j
On 1/16/2024 4:17 AM, Barry wrote:
On 16 Jan 2024, at 03:49, Thomas Passin via Python-list
wrote:
This kind of thing can happen with PyQt, also. There are ways to minimize it
but I don't know if you can ever be sure all Qt C++ objects will get deleted.
It depends on the type of o
On 2024-01-16 2:15 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
Where do you tend to "leave a reference dangling somewhere"? How is
this occurring? Is it a result of an incomplete transaction (like an
HTTP request that never finishes), or a regular part of the operation
of the server?
On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 01:45, Frank Millman via Python-list
wrote:
>
> On 2024-01-16 2:15 PM, Chris Angelico via Python-list wrote:
> >
> > Where do you tend to "leave a reference dangling somewhere"? How is
> > this occurring? Is it a result of an incomplete tra
Am 15.01.2024 um 23:55 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
On 1/15/24 12:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
Python from the App Store is not the same as Python from python.org:
yes. this question is about the python.org
x27;t keep the Form alive after it's been closed.
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On 2024-01-17 3:01 AM, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote:
On 17/01/24 1:01 am, Frank Millman wrote:
I sometimes need to keep a reference from a transient object to a more
permanent structure in my app. To save myself the extra step of
removing all these references when the transient object is
Hello Python
I Need help. it could not be found for PyTorch. It said in the Command Prompt
ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch (from
versions: none)
ERROR: No matching distribution found for torch, Can you help me?
Thank You,
Best,
Alan.
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So, here's some info about how to see what's going on with Python's
memory allocation: https://docs.python.org/3/library/tracemalloc.html
. I haven't looked into this in a long time, but it used to be the
case that you needed to compile native modules (and probably Pyt
On 1/16/24 10:00, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list wrote:
Am 15.01.2024 um 23:55 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
On 1/15/24 12:01, Thomas Passin via Python-list wrote:
On 1/15/2024 1:26 PM, Mats Wichmann via Python-list wrote:
Python from the App Store is not the same as Python from
On 1/17/24 09:48, Alan Zaharia via Python-list wrote:
Hello Python
I Need help. it could not be found for PyTorch. It said in the Command Prompt
ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement torch (from
versions: none)
ERROR: No matching distribution found for torch, Can you
We silently skipped releasing in December (it was too close to the
holidays, a lot of people were away) so by date you may have been expecting
alpha 4, but instead it’s alpha 3:
https://www.python.org/downloads/release/python-3130a3/
*This is an early developer preview of Python 3.13*
<ht
point at
it but not which ones. As long as it is decremented when a pointer leaves,
it works.
If you want to design objects that can store additional info when invoked
properly, go for it. No change to python would be needed. In your example,
you could create an object initialized by cube([10,1,1], &q
)
all_datasets_final.append(all_datasets)return all_datasets_final*
If you have a better Pandas approach (unifying all these methods into one
that make use of dataframe methods only) please let me know.
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On 1/21/2024 7:37 AM, marc nicole via Python-list wrote:
Hello,
I have an initial dataframe with a random list of target cells (each cell
being identified with a couple (x,y)).
I want to yield four different dataframes each containing the value of one
of the contour (surrounding) cells of each
cells)
target_cells_with_contour = apply_contours(target_cells, contour_cells)
datasets = create_possible_datasets(zipf_dataset,
target_cells_with_contour)
print(datasets)
main()
Le dim. 21 janv. 2024 à 16:33, Thomas Passin via Python-list <
[email protected]> a écrit :
> On 1/2
reformatted code. It's much easier to read and think about.
For say 100 points, it doesn't seem that "optimization" would be much of
an issue. On my laptop machine and Python 3.12, your example takes
around 5 seconds to run and print(). OTOH if you think you will go to
It is part of a larger project aiming at processing data according to a
given algorithm
Do you have any comments or any enhancing recommendations on the code?
Thanks.
Le dim. 21 janv. 2024 à 18:28, Thomas Passin via Python-list <
[email protected]> a écrit :
> On 1/21/2024 11:54
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asic usage. Someone else will probably pitch in.
Thanks.
Le dim. 21 janv. 2024 à 18:28, Thomas Passin via Python-list
mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
On 1/21/2024 11:54 AM, marc nicole wrote:
> Thanks for the reply,
>
> I think using a Pandas (o
Am 16.01.2024 um 23:44 schrieb Barry via Python-list:
On 16 Jan 2024, at 17:11, Sibylle Koczian via Python-list
wrote:
while the new Windows 11 machine finds the Microsoft stub
You can turn off the stub in windows settings. The magic windows jargon is
“App Execution Aliases”. Once you
Am 17.01.2024 um 19:44 schrieb Mats Wichmann via Python-list:
Be interesting to know if your WIndows 10 has those files in place, and
it's just a missing path entry (a good thing, perhaps) that's causing it
not to be found there.
Yes. Python is not on the Path - by design.
whi
-GA.html
*INTRODUCTION*
eGenix <https://egenix.com/> has long been running a local Python user
group meeting in Düsseldorf called /Python Meeting Düsseldorf
<https://pyddf.de/>/ and we are using a Telegram group for
d was surprised to find that (as far as I can tell) there is no
pre-built solution to this in unittest or pytest. It feels like it should
be included in some standard library.
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Python ideas are discussed here these days: https://discuss.python.org/
Suggest you raise this there in the Ideas category.
Barry
> On 24 Jan 2024, at 17:11, Kerrick Staley via Python-list
> wrote:
>
> I think we should define a unittest.mock.NAN constant that can
f it helps at all, you can think of an async function as being
very similar to a generator, and "await" as being very similar to
"yield from". In the current implementation they're almost exactly
the same thing underneath.
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 at 11:01, Greg Ewing via Python-list
wrote:
>
> If it helps at all, you can think of an async function as being
> very similar to a generator, and "await" as being very similar to
> "yield from". In the current implementation they're almos
Special provisions are necessary to be able to wait for a value
(and meanwhile do other things).
`asyncio.sleep` has e.g. this provisions and a call of it is an "awaitable".
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We say that an object is an awaitable object if it can be used in an
await expression. Many asyncio APIs are designed to accept awaitables.
There are three main types of awaitable objects:
coroutines, Tasks, and Futures.
Stefan Ram schrieb:
In "The Python Language Reference, Re
Maybe consult:
PEP 492 – Coroutines with async and await syntax
Created: 09-Apr-2015
Python-Version: 3.5
https://peps.python.org/pep-0492/
Mild Shock schrieb:
We say that an object is an awaitable object if it can be used in an
await expression. Many asyncio APIs are designed to accept
to be
[0,7] instead of [0,8]?
My code is the following:
#!/usr/bin/python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
import string
import random
import numpy as np
def generate_numbers_list_until_number(stop_number):
if str(stop_number).isnumeric():
return np.arange(stop_number)
else:
raise
Dear Python.org Support Team,
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to seek assistance with an
issue I'm encountering while attempting to uninstall a corrupted Python
installation on my system.
Details of my system:
- Operating System: Windows 10
- Python Version: 3.11.3(6
On 1/29/24 05:19, Syed Hamood via Python-list wrote:
Dear Python.org Support Team,
I hope this email finds you well. I am writing to seek assistance with an
issue I'm encountering while attempting to uninstall a corrupted Python
installation on my system.
Details of my system:
- Oper
On Fri, 12 Jan 2024, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
For my use 1) the salutation and email address (always with an '@') are
sequential and 2) I'm developing the script to extract both from the same
file.
I've looked at my Python books "Python Crash Course,
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, [email protected] wrote:
Have you read "https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#module-io";?
Dieter,
No, I hadn't ... but I am reading it now.
Many thanks,
Rich
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Rich Shepard wrote at 2024-1-29 08:15 -0800:
> ...
>If this explanation is not sufficiently clear I'll re-write it. :-)
Have you read "https://docs.python.org/3/library/io.html#module-io";?
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On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
No, I hadn't ... but I am reading it now.
Perhaps I missed the answer to my question when reading the io module. It
explains how to open/write/read files of text and binary data, not passing
a variable's value from one file
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
I'll keep searching for a solution.
IIRC, someone here pointed me to <https://realpython.com/python-send-email/>
and I forgot about it ... until now.
Regards,
Rich
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it and do your thing.
Without a bit more specific detail, you may not get more than a suggestion
as to how to read in files.
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Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 12:38 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE
/
Avi,
I found several web pages describing how to use the python email library and
tools to send individual or multiple email messages. I'll learn how to do
this based on a couple of detailed examples.
Thanks,
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On 2024-01-29, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jan 2024, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
>
>> No, I hadn't ... but I am reading it now.
>
> Perhaps I missed the answer to my question when reading the io module. It
> explains how to open/write/rea
On 1/29/2024 11:15 AM, Rich Shepard via Python-list wrote:
For my use 1) the salutation and email address (always with an '@') are
sequential and 2) I'm developing the script to extract both from the same
file.
I've looked at my Python books "Python Crash Course,
info. If you have lots of
data, reading line after line may be less useful than just using a database
and a query.
One way to stop feeling frustrated is to stop reading the thread.
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