Looks as if Dilbert is about to draft a PEP to change Python's
world-view: https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-01-24
Curiously, "canard" whilst a French word for "duck", in English
describes a rumor or false-story!
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On 27/01/20 1:53 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 1/26/20 6:52 PM, DL Neil via Python-list wrote:
On 27/01/20 4:15 AM, ferzan saglam wrote:
Hello people, I have written the code below which works fine, but it
has one small problem. Instead of printing one (x) on the first line,
it prints two.
I
subject to faithful reproduction)
eases 'visual indexing', it still breaks the "threading" of email
conversations (for those of us wot use it on our local machines AND in
the archives).
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's example is that it features two key
functions rather than a complex comparison.
If sort() would accept a sequence of key functions each function could be
used to sort slices that compare equal when using the previous key.
You don't need a sequence of key functions : the sort algorith
created
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On 30/01/20 10:38 AM, jkn wrote:
On Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 8:27:03 PM UTC, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 7:06 AM jkn wrote:
I want to be a able to use a simple 'download manager' which I was going to
write
(in Python), but then wondered if there was somethin
On 30/01/20 2:14 PM, Souvik Dutta wrote:
Hey I was thinking how I can save a dictionary in python(obviously) so that
the script is rerun it automatically loads the dictionary.
Perhaps a YAML or JSON file (which follow a very similar format and
structure to Python dicts), or a '
pe INPUT
data in FORTRAN, back in the ?good old days!
(don't over-excite me or I'll threaten you with my walking-stick...)
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ub of the problem!
Using ctrl+c is a VERY BAD idea. Depending upon the sophistication of
the solution/existing code, surely there is another way...
Even closing/pulling-out the networking connection to cause an exception
within Python, would enable management of a more 'clean' an
ecall a recent posting - or
maybe they've ex-communicated me for requiring them to shout very (very)
loudly to reach me...
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f there was an input() loop? The idea of
putting, effectively the entire code-base, into a try...except block
seemed crude and likely to cause side-effects.
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1112343/how-do-i-capture-sigint-in-python
put me on a good path. So, I opened a door in my memory,
a qlineedit. Please say me something that
is more efficient and less idiot like. Thank you.
Hi, you have certainly become part of the Python community. It's
probably too late to say "welcome".
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with this sort of discussion list, so please
allow me try
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On 2020-02-02, Stefan Ram wrote:
> JavaScript has a void operator that maps everything to
> undefined. E.g.,
>
> JavaScript console
>
>|< void( console.log( 2 ) )
>| 2
>|> undefined
>
> I can easily write a corresponding function in Python.
>
&g
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?
Why prefer that over native-Python constructs, eg two 40-element lists,
a list of (pairs) lists, or indeed a dict with name as 'key' and date as
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places where an expression is allowed.
Why does it matter if the return value is None?
"print(2), print(3)" is an expression that will evaluate all of its
sub-expressions. If the sub-expressions return None then I guess you
could do "(x, y, z)[0]" too.
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*x: None
>>> f(print(2), print(3))
2
3
Or if you're writing it inline then:
>>> (None, print(2), print(3))[0]
2
3
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Is there a set location for PSL project repos?
(it used to be GitHub, and before that, Google)
I'd like to review some serious PyTest/Unittest examples, eg as are
applied to familiar (Python source) library members...
* should be easier to find than was the source of the Nile (by Euro
On 5/02/20 6:34 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Pip won't work on my desktop, because of the firewalls we have set up.
I have the version from github. Assuming my Python 3.8.1 Home Directory is
C:\Python, How can I install pyodbc pyodbc-master.zip? Which folders should I
unzip it
On 10/02/20 4:46 AM, J A wrote:
as a sysadmin I've written several small tools as python command line apps
that get installed with python setup.py install. I would now like to create
another tool that would quickly list out all of my custom tools that may be
installed on the system. so
On 11/02/20 12:00 AM, Tushita Parashar wrote:
Even after installing the software on my system the software isn’t running.
Today, an (apparently) identical question, already asked and answered.
Please see the Python-Tutor list: "Python Beginner" msg.
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On 2020-02-10, Python wrote:
> So far, so good. However, when you go to use this object, the time it
> represents is in fact wrong.
Unsurprisingly for a language feature that's been around for nearly
17 years, no it isn't.
> For example:
>
>>>> print dt.s
On 2020-02-11, Chris Angelico wrote:
>> That's the key piece of info. This does appear to work, though still
>> not on python2. That, as you say, is my problem. But thankfully Jon
>> Ribbens has the save:
>
> Isn't it time to stop going to great effort to
On 2020-02-11, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:01 PM Jon Ribbens via Python-list
> wrote:
>> So while it's been about 6 years since anyone should have been
>> starting any new projects using Python 2, there are plenty of
>> projects that are o
On 2020-02-12, Chris Angelico wrote:
> But you CAN rewrite code such that it reduces technical debt. You can
> refactor code to make it more logical.
... but if doing so costs more than the debt, you shouldn't do it.
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. For
some touch typists, the earlier word processors that do not know about a
mouse and run in one big window, may be just right. But try sending one to
others without using some conversion method first.
But anyone teaching Python today who still uses version 2 exclusively may
have some explaining
s what it's
there for!) Thus, what relationship did he (or even, 'they' of the IT
dept) have with the contractor? The home truth: 'using' the cheapest
people creates a 'race to the bottom', and must, by definition, lead to
'the cheapest job' being done
On 17/02/20 11:11 PM, lampahome wrote:
I have 3+years developer experience in python, but I always develop
about peer-to-peer service. Have no backend experience in python.
But now I want to change to backend engineer, somebody shares their
job is to do like
1. Develop customize API to receive
where the 'mainline' can find (and import) it!
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import preos
# pass name, Tc, Pc, omega
methane = preos.Molecule("methane", -82.59 + 273.15, 45.99, 0.011)
methane.print_params()
...
my code preos in one file preos.py
my commands are
alberto@HENDRIX ~/PREOS $ python3.5
Python 3.5.2 (default, Oct 8 2019, 13:06:37)
[GCC 5.4.
uage, even for
professional programmers - and more-so if English is not one's
native-language. Well done!
Now, if you could tell us how to capture and control methane, perhaps
the world would become a better place...
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On 21/02/20 10:05 AM, Stefan Ram wrote:
David Wihl writes:
I believe that it would be more idiomatic in Python (and other languages lik=
e Ruby) to throw an exception when one of these partial errors occur.
I wonder whether the term "idiomatic" is too heavily
burdened here.
On 22/02/20 10:45 PM, S Y wrote:
How can I use remove,add and verify methods in class oop. Which has tuple with
allowed values inside class. Like two classes cart and inventory
Please show the code you have so-far.
What are you removing, adding, and verifying?
Are you aware of the Python
def add_item(self, item_object):
if len(self.inventory) <= self.capacity:
self.inventory.append(item_object)
return True
else:
print("Reached max capacity")
return False
on behalf of DL
Neil via Python-list
*Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2020 4:41:54 PM
*To:* python-list@
of plug-ins
from which users may select to suit their particular research objective.
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On 28/02/20 9:29 AM, [email protected] wrote:
I am new to python and all of this, I am using this FastAPI, to build API,
I want when users hit any endpoint for ex /products, that to be written into a
file , how do I do it?
The Python Standard Library offers a Logging library.
It has
multiple matches it knows once it's
found a match at position to start looking for the next potential
match at position ?
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ahead and
recovered everyone's feelings of satisfaction/success!
Aside from 'repairing' team spirit, (as regular readers will recognise)
I wasn't going to let this pass without some thought and discussion (and
perhaps I might learn something about Python interfacing)!
Python
As title. Currently I'm using gcc 9.2.0 and its compilation seems to
work well and fast. But I would know by your experience if clang can
produce, on a *nix system, a "faster Python".
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t; > produce, on a *nix system, a "faster Python".
>
> I took a quick run at this as I was wanting to give pyperformance a try.
> Comparing GCC 9 with CLANG 8 on my Ubuntu laptop here's what I got. It seems
> that GCC was
I didn't have clang installed. It was just "sudo apt install clang-8". From
there all I had to do was build Python from scratch twice, install
pyperformance using pip after the first build, then run it after each
build. It's not difficult. Going beyond that right now is n
2 Mar 2020 at 00:58, Skip Montanaro wrote:
>>
>> Have you compiled it optimized (--enable-optimizations --with-lto)?
>
>
> Nope, just ./configure. Further investigation is left as an exercise for the
> reader. :-)
>
> Skip
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> Have you compiled it optimized (--enable-optimizations --with-lto)?
>
Nope, just ./configure. Further investigation is left as an exercise for
the reader. :-)
Skip
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On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 08:28, Adam Preble wrote:
>
> I have been making some progress on my custom interpreter project
Is your project published somewhere? What changes have you done to the
interpreter?
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python list address to the Cc field. I don't added any Bcc. I do not
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 22:36, Ethan Furman wrote:
> Questions like this should go to python-list-owner at python dot org. If
> this message hadn't been flagged we may not have noticed it.
Sorry, I posted to python-list-owner before reading this message.
> When the mailing
Ok, I sent a message as I did before to the discussion "Re: Friday Finking:
Poly more thick", with only "test" as body.
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 22:48, Marco Sulla wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 22:36, Ethan Furman wrote:
> > Questions like this should go to
As title. For example, `copy.copy` can use the __copy__() method of a
class, if defined.
Is this not possible with `json`?
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ly a function with a `yield`. If it
quacks...
Why can't an asynchronous coroutine be simply a coroutine that has an
`async` or an `await` in its code, without `async` in the signature?
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Mh. I hoped not, but unluckily I expected a response like this.
People of Python List, I strongly discourage you to support this user.
He is quite suspicious for the following reasons:
1. he go so far as he offers money for, IMHO, a trivial task
2. he does not trust binaries from pip. He is so
> b'\xff\x00'
>> >>>> 'ÿ'.encode('utf-32-le')
>> > b'\xff\x00\x00\x00'
>
>> That all looks as expected.
> Yes
>
>>Is there something about the output that puzzles you?
> No
>
>>Did you have a question?
> No, only a comment
>
> This buggy language is very amusing.
What's the bug, or source of amusement?
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ing.
>>
>> What's the bug, or source of amusement?
>
> The bug is in the mental world of the OP.
Quite possibly. I must admit I was just interested to learn what
they thought was wrong or amusing in the above. There's plenty of
room to have reasonable differing opinions on Unicode strings and
how they're implemented in languages, but it's not at all obvious
what could be different in those specific expressions.
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y amusing.
>>
>> What's the bug, or source of amusement?
>
> The bug is in the mental world of the OP.
Quite possibly. I must admit I was just interested to learn what they thought
was wrong or amusing in the above. There's plenty of room to have reasonable
differing opinions on Unicode strings and how they're implemented in languages,
but it's not at all obvious what could be different in those specific
expressions.
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t;> > b'\xff\x00'
>> >>>> 'Ä¿'.encode('utf-32-le')
>> > b'\xff\x00\x00\x00'
>
>> That all looks as expected.
> Yes
>
>>Is there something about the output that puzzles you?
> No
>
>>Did you have a question?
> No, only a comment
>
> This buggy language is very amusing.
What's the bug, or source of amusement?
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27;)
>> > b'\xff\x00'
>> >>>> 'Ääâ¿'.encode('utf-32-le')
>> > b'\xff\x00\x00\x00'
>
>> That all looks as expected.
> Yes
>
>>Is there something about the output that puzzles you?
> No
>
>>Did you have a question?
> No, only a comment
>
> This buggy language is very amusing.
What's the bug, or source of amusement?
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is very amusing.
>>
>> What's the bug, or source of amusement?
>
> The bug is in the mental world of the OP.
Quite possibly. I must admit I was just interested to learn what they thought
was wrong or amusing in the above. There's plenty of room to have reasonable
differing opinions on Unicode strings and how they're implemented in languages,
but it's not at all obvious what could be different in those specific
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...html... ''' % app.get_url(
'/mailform )
Can someone explain why?!
Please post the full error message and traceback.
To clarify: is the error coming from Python or from the web server?
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On 2020-03-06, Jon Ribbens wrote:
> What's the bug, or source of amusement?
Oh, that's fun. There's a Russian Fidonet gateway, that somehow
still exists, that's re-injecting usenet posts back into the group.
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t; WHILE if i try the following way, i receive no error.
>
> ...html... ''' % app.get_url(
'/mailform )
>
> Can someone explain why?!
Please post the full error message and traceback.
To clarify: is the error coming from Python or from the web server?
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On 8/03/20 11:05 PM, Shrinivas Kulkarni wrote:
Hello Everyone
While writing python code, I frequently come across the need to do
certain tasks based on combined conditions.
Much of the task for all the sub-conditions are common but some are
specific to one or more of these sub-conditions
t/mailform
+1
May I recommend two techniques:
1 before using a URL from Python, check what happens in your favorite
web browser (with exactly the same values - not what you might
think/expect as an expansion). This helps narrow-down the problem
between the two choices (in this case) - the langu
Subscribed. I have a little suggestion IMHO "What is you favourite
pip command or functionality?" is not very useful... of course the
most useful command is "install" :-)
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> MOSS/CZI.
>
> I want to let you know about the pip UX Studies we've started today, and
> encourage you to sign-up and take part.
>
> The pip Team is looking for Python users who use pip to take part in our
> UX Studies. Your input will have a direct impact on
y.com/datasets/s2x4d542dc/1
It seems the problem is that the above sources are generated by an old
version of Cython:
https://github.com/mcfletch/pyopengl/issues/11
You have "simply" to enter any subdir of PoissonSolver that ends with
"_cy", remove the .c file inside and do:
[Marco Sulla ]
> Excuse me, Tim Peters, what do you think about my (probably heretical)
> proposal of simply raising an exception instead of return a NaN, like
> Python already do for division by zero?
Sorry, I'm missing context. I don't see any other message(s) from you
in th
IEEE 754 says also that the division by +0 should return
+Infinity, and by -0 -Infinity.
On the contrary, Python decided to not adhere to IEEE 754 in this case
and do a very wise choice: raise an exception.
The question is: why Python does not do the same for operations that
now return NaN?
Rais
I agree with Steven D'Aprano.
I never had problems with strip(), but if people find it confusing,
Python can simply leave strip() and all the other function as they are
and add another functions, like crop() or snip() or shear() prune() or
mow(). Personally I prefer crop() or prune().
Thi
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 16:09, Paul Moore wrote:
> We've had some questions as to whether this survey is legitimate. I
> can confirm it is (speaking as a pip core developer).
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Little errata: you have only to install or update Cython, remove the
.c files as I wrote before and run again
python setup.py build_ext -b PoissonSolver/
No intermediate steps are required. The generated ELF files are three.
You have also to rename them with the names in the README file.
On
On 11/03/20 7:34 AM, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 3/10/20 6:40 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 11:22 PM Marco Sulla via Python-list
...
I'm also reading this in Gmail, and I didn't get any such warning. I'm
going to call that a spurious warning, a false positive
braries is
PoissonSolver/PoissonSolver/ps3d.cpython-38-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
You have also to rename them. Follow the README.
On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 at 15:23, Tim Ko wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to install a custom Python package but ran into an error. The
> error presumably associated w
On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 13:41, Chris Angelico wrote:
> It makes good sense for
> division by 0 and division by 0.0 to both result in the same
> exception.
But Python 3 returns a float, for example, in division between
integers. 4 / 2 == 2.0. So some_integer / +0 should return +Infinity
On 2020-03-11, Robin Becker wrote:
> I'm trying to understand why python 3.8.2 venv behaves differently
> when it is executed va a link
Because site.py contains a function called venv() which looks up the
path of the executed python binary, and searches for the virtual
environment
On 12/03/20 3:03 AM, Rhodri James wrote:
On 11/03/2020 04:06, Michael Torrie wrote:
On 3/10/20 6:49 PM, Souvik Dutta wrote:
What about moving on to a social media app completely made in pythoj for
python?
No thanks. I don't want to be on yet another web forum. I don't need
"s
t Canvas (I haven't used that LMS) permit the embedding of a
"frame"? (allowing greater formatting freedom/character choices within
its 'enclosure')
Another option may be to link to a post on a 'snippet site' - most seem
JavaScript-oriented, but may also
"last_name" ]
>>> fname, lname
('Frances', 'Allen')
That said, I've often wished to be allowed to write:
d.first_name
for a dict (cf a class/object).
Hmm, I feel a 'utility' coming-on - but first I'll look to see where/how
such might be used in 'live' code (and be any better than the current
mechanisms)...
Simple collections are one thing. How would you handle the structure if
one or more elements contains a second dimension? eg a list within a
list/a 2D matrix (or if you must, an 'array')?
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On 23/03/20 4:04 AM, Antoon Pardon wrote:
I think I can best explain what I want by showing two bash sessions:
Session 1)
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Python 2.6.4 (r264:75706, Sep 9 2015, 15:05:38) [C] on sunos5
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or
rectly:
for name, value in C.__members__.items():
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y of cursive hand-writing
[substitute any number of grumpy, old man regrets/favorite complaints,
here].
Beyond such syntactic concerns, textwrap applies no semantic meaning to
its text-content. For that we have to move to markup languages (HTML is
my bias - but (largely) presumes screen prese
On 25/03/20 10:30 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 8:04 AM DL Neil via Python-list
wrote:
On 23/03/20 8:00 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
When using textwrap.fill() or friends, setting break_long_words=False
without also setting break_on_hyphens=False has the very strange
On 25/03/20 11:57 AM, Chris Angelico wrote:
On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 9:37 AM DL Neil via Python-list
wrote:
As you observe, the problem with terminal emulators is the extent of
their emulation and the degree of adoption of their 'extended features'!
My concern grows because of t
asses in each view module?
My personal approach is to follow 'the Zen of Python' and prefer
"explicit" over "implicit".
(it helps beginners, as well as us old-fogies whose minds cannot retain
things for very long)
I see little point in importing 'stuff'
I'm not a professional coder. I'm an environmental consultant and I use a
I take it all back then...
No! No need to feel apologetic, the Python community works hard to be
inclusive - which I take to include levels of expertise, not merely
countering the various "-isms".
On 31/03/20 11:23 PM, Jami Yaswanth wrote:
i am not able to use the libraries that are installed
using "pip install pandas"
Welcome to Python!
Are you aware of the Python-Tutor Discussion List?
(https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor)
Please describe how you installed these
On 2/04/20 6:49 AM, anson freer wrote:
Will Anaconda2, Python2, jupyter and many applications I have for python
harm the 3.8.2?
should I be in Python Tutor and in this one(current email)at the same time?
Or is it one or the other not both
I want to learn how to use PDF to read files that have
On 2/04/20 7:15 AM, Honori R. Camacho wrote:
Ok.
1.- Necesitamos ayuda. No podemos ejecutar Python 3.5.4 en windows 7, se
descargo la version Python 3.5.4 y se instalo correctamente.Y se
corrigieron los path.
Pero no permite ejecutar los .py ni los .pyw por acceso directo. gracias.
Hola
On 2/04/20 7:24 PM, Honori R. Camacho wrote:
Gracias por atender esta solicitud. Si, no explique que antes se
ejecutaba correctamente, pero ocurio que por error se desinstalo un
*frameworks* y desde ahi consideramos, empezaron los problemas. Se
reinstalo el Python 3.5.4 desde los repositorios
I already use the IDL software. Now I`m using Python. In IDL I
havethe vector position=(xo,yo,x1,y1) to set where Iwnat to plot my
figure in my window.
I have an 2d array with x and y dimensition equal
5224. when I plot my figure, using contourtf it takes up a small part of
my window. What can I
ation:
plt.close( 1 )
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I have downloaded the 3.8 64 bit python program to my PC but the
interpreter will not run. It seems to have 'repaired' itself when I ran the
setup again but the interpreter still won't run.
Is there a reason for this? Do you require a screenshot?
Welcome to Python!
This is
'gotchas' in certain situations, a general advice/'rule' of:
'don't do it' is being applied.
Perhaps there is another/a better reason that someone else will provide...
Disclaimers:
- Python typing (and thus: mypy) has a somewhat experimental approach
and is
't specify a metaclass.
I find it peculiar that you can give a function as metaclass.
Yes, it just calls whatever object you give it, which allows
for various fun things. You'd be risking a lynching if you took
advantage of it for anything important, though.:-)
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On 11/04/20 8:44 AM, Elliott Dehnbostel wrote:
If I've done this incorrectly, please let me know so that I can
improve/revise. I'm new to the Python community and quite enjoy the more
functional features of Python 3, but have I have a peeve about it. I'd like
to propose and discus
Hello,
I made my first Python package that can be installed via PIP. It is called
"Aduct".
https://github.com/atornel/Aduct.
Aduct is a toolkit to design graphical applications that can be dynamically
changed with a little work as possible. It is designed by inheriting objects
provid
On 15/04/20 2:05 PM, mike via Python-list wrote:
I need somehelpwith Python 36-32 and 38-32
I have been using sublime text 3 asmy ide for about 1 year now and everything
was fine -I tried to change to Pycharm 2020 - I was going to use sublime 3 as
my IDE for python36-32 and the Pycharm2020
On 15/04/20 6:47 PM, [email protected] wrote:
Whenever I try to run any file in which pandas was import it was showing that
dll file is not loaded
Please copy-paste the *exact* error message.
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