Re: Simple Text Processing Help

2007-10-14 Thread patrick . waldo
Thank you both for helping me out. I am still rather new to Python and so I'm probably trying to reinvent the wheel here. When I try to do Paul's response, I get >>>tokens = line.strip().split() [] So I am not quite sure how to read line by line. tokens = input.read().split() gets me all the in

Re: Simple Text Processing Help

2007-10-15 Thread patrick . waldo
ike if tokens.startswith('pattern') == true Again, thanks so much. I've gone to http://gnosis.cx/TPiP/ and I have a couple O'Reilly books, but they don't seem to have a straightforward example for this kind of text manipulation. Patrick On Oct 14, 11:17 pm, John Machi

Re: Simple Text Processing Help

2007-10-15 Thread patrick . waldo
ry needs to be put together. Something like if tokens[1] and tokens[2] startswith('pattern') == true tokens[2] = join(tokens[2]:tokens[3]) token[3] = token[4] del token[4] but the code isn't right...any ideas? Again, thanks so much. I've gone to http://gnosis.cx/TPiP

Re: Simple Text Processing Help

2007-10-15 Thread patrick . waldo
yield chem > chem = [] > chem.append(tok) and > for key, group in groupby(instream, unicode.isspace): > if not key: > yield "".join(group) Thanks again, Patrick On Oct 15, 2:16 pm, Peter Otten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &g

Re: Simple Text Processing Help

2007-10-16 Thread patrick . waldo
And now for something completely different... I see a lot of COM stuff with Python for excel...and I quickly made the same program output to excel. What if the input file were a Word document? Where is there information about manipulating word documents, or what could I add to make the same prog

Re: Simple Text Processing Help

2007-10-16 Thread patrick . waldo
And now for something completely different... I've been reading up a bit about Python and Excel and I quickly told the program to output to Excel quite easily. However, what if the input file were a Word document? I can't seem to find much information about parsing Word files. What could I add

Problem Converting Word to UTF8 Text File

2007-10-21 Thread patrick . waldo
ep on getting "TypeError: coercing to Unicode: need string or buffer, instance found". I'm probably copying the word document wrong. What can I do? Thanks, Patrick import os, codecs, glob, shutil, win32com.client from win32com.client import Dispatch input = 'C:\\text_samples\\

Re: Problem Converting Word to UTF8 Text File

2007-10-21 Thread patrick . waldo
Indeed, the shutil.copyfile(doc,txt_doc) was causing the problem for the reason you stated. So, I changed it to this: for doc in glob.glob(input): txt_split = os.path.splitext(doc) txt_doc = txt_split[0] + '.txt' txt_doc_dir = os.path.join(input_dir,txt_doc) doc_dir = os.path.join

Re: Problem Converting Word to UTF8 Text File

2007-10-22 Thread patrick . waldo
That KB document was really helpful, but the problem still isn't solved. What's wierd now is that the unicode characters like become è in some odd conversion. However, I noticed when I try to open the word documents after I run the first for statement that Word gives me a window that says File

Regular Expression

2007-10-22 Thread patrick . waldo
Hi, I'm trying to learn regular expressions, but I am having trouble with this. I want to search a document that has mixed data; however, the last line of every entry has something like C5H4N4O3 or CH5N3.ClH. All of the letters are upper case and there will always be numbers and possibly one . H

Re: Regular Expression

2007-10-23 Thread patrick . waldo
This is related to my last post (see: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.python/browse_thread/thread/c333cbbb5d496584/998af2bb2ca10e88#998af2bb2ca10e88) I have a text file with an EINECS number, a CAS number, a Chemical Name, and a Chemical Formula, always in this order. However, I realized

Re: Regular Expression

2007-10-25 Thread patrick . waldo
-packages\pythonwin\pywin\framework \scriptutils.py", line 310, in RunScript exec codeObject in __main__.__dict__ File "C:\Documents and Settings\Patrick Waldo\My Documents\Python \WORD\try5-2-file-1-1.py", line 32, in ? input = codecs.open(input_text, 'r','utf8

Re: Regular Expression

2007-10-27 Thread patrick . waldo
Finally I solved the problem, with some really minor things to tweak. I guess it's true that I had two problems working with regular expressions. Thank you all for your help. I really learned a lot on quite a difficult problem. Final Code: #For text files in a directory... #Analyzes a randomly

Problem--IOError: [Errno 13] Permission denied

2007-10-28 Thread patrick . waldo
t exec codeObject in __main__.__dict__ File "C:\Documents and Settings\Patrick Waldo\My Documents\Python \WORD\try5-2-file-1-all patterns.py", line 77, in ? input = codecs.open(input_text, 'r','utf8') File "C:\Python24\lib\codecs.py", line 666,

Re: How to Speed Up Internet Searches??

2007-02-12 Thread Patrick Klos
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How to Speed Up Internet Searches?? >When you go to a web site, the first thing that happens is that. >and for networking tips see at > : : : Please don't post this kind of stuff here any more. It's off topic

Sorting Countries by Region

2007-11-16 Thread patrick . waldo
Hi all, I'm analyzing some data that has a lot of country data. What I need to do is sort through this data and output it into an excel doc with summary information. The countries, though, need to be sorted by region, but the way I thought I could do it isn't quite working out. So far I can only

Re: Fwd: Sorting Countries by Region

2007-11-16 Thread patrick . waldo
Great, this is very helpful. I'm new to Python, so hence the inefficient or nonsensical code! > > 2) I would suggest using countries.sort(...) or sorted(countries,...), > specifying cmp or key options too sort by region instead. > I don't understand how to do this. The countries.sort() lists al

Re: Fwd: Sorting Countries by Region

2007-11-17 Thread patrick . waldo
This is how I solved it last night in my inefficient sort of way and after re-reading some of my Python books on dictionaries. So far this gets the job done. However, I'd like to test if there are any countries in the excel input that are not represented, ie the input is all the information I hav

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-20 Thread Patrick Mullen
(Oops, sent as private, reposting to list) On Nov 20, 2007 12:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FWIW it's trivial to run pyflakes on your code (automatically behind > the scenes) to get syntax checking; in vim, my syntax errors get > underlined immediately for python code. It

Re: the annoying, verbose self

2007-11-23 Thread Patrick Mullen
Most of the time self doesn't bother me in the slightest. The one time it does bother me however, is when I am turning a function into a method. In this case, often I have many local variables which I actually want to be instance variables, so I have to add self to all of them. Of course, this i

Re: Python too complex ?!?!?!

2007-11-23 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Nov 22, 2007 1:04 PM, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > / Chime Mode > I have, in fact, sent this thread to my friend. > His limiting factors are > > - money-control people favor MS platforms > - C# and VS have minimal cost impact for academia > - sys admins have everything locked down (probab

Re: Catching a segfault in a Python library

2007-11-24 Thread Patrick Mullen
On 24 Nov 2007 08:41:24 GMT, Ayaz Ahmed Khan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Donn Ingle wrote: > > Already done, the code within PIL is causing the crash. It gets ugly and > > out of my remit. It's a freetype/Pil thing and I simply want to a way to > > catch it when it happens. > > Since a segfault e

Re: the annoying, verbose self

2007-11-24 Thread Patrick Mullen
Ton Van Vliet: > [... using/with ...] This looks like a really nice little construct, and solves my small quirk issue (which has popped up maybe twice in my python experience). It could also be a solution to the OP's problem. The issue of course is disambiguation. Is EVERY name looked up in the

Re: the annoying, verbose self

2007-11-24 Thread Patrick Mullen
On 24 Nov 2007 13:56:37 GMT, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So:: > > def meth(self): > using self: > tmp = raw_input('Enter age: ') > age = int(tmp) > > becomes:: > > def meth(self): > using self: > self.tmp = self.

python as a static library with Visual Studio 2005

2007-11-27 Thread Patrick Stinson
Visual Studio 2005? Am I overlooking the documentation for this?? Thanks in advance -- Patrick Kidd Stinson http://www.patrickkidd.com/ http://pkaudio.sourceforge.net/ http://pksampler.sourceforge.net/ -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Yet Another Tabular Data Question

2007-11-29 Thread patrick . waldo
Hi all, Fairly new Python guy here. I am having a lot of trouble trying to figure this out. I have some data on some regulations in Excel and I need to basically add up the total regulations for each country--a statistical analysis thing that I'll copy to another Excel file. Writing with pyExcel

embedding std py and c modules

2007-12-03 Thread Patrick Stinson
Is it possible to build python as a static library and embed all necessary c and py modules rom the standard lib in it? This would make distributing and embedded interpreter in our app MUCH simpler. thanks! -- Patrick Kidd Stinson http://www.patrickkidd.com/ http://pkaudio.sourceforge.net/ http

embedding and setting the lib path

2007-12-03 Thread Patrick Stinson
/Library/Application Support/East West/python_blah_blah on mac. Of course, none of this matters if I can just include all of the required libs (traceback, site, etc) in the static library, as asked by my previous post.. -- Patrick Kidd Stinson http://www.patrickkidd.com/ http

Re: embedding std py and c modules

2007-12-03 Thread Patrick Stinson
Looks like statically linking the c-based modules is pretty easy, but how about the python-based modules? On Dec 3, 2007 10:06 AM, Patrick Stinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it possible to build python as a static library and embed all necessary > c and py modules rom the standa

Re: "Python" is not a good name, should rename to "Athon"

2007-12-06 Thread Patrick Mullen
Monty Python pioneered (or at least pioneered the organized televising of) a form of humor where there is no punchline or reason something is funny, it just is (or isn't). I find about half of it very funny, and the rest very unfunny. I used to find it more hilarious than I do now. It's an extre

Re: Is a "real" C-Python possible?

2007-12-13 Thread Patrick Mullen
> > > > Kay Schluehr wrote: > > > > Python 2.6 and 3.0 have a more Pythonic way for the problem: > > > > class A(object): > > > > @property > > > > def foo(self): > > > > return self._foo > > > > @foo.setter > > > > def foo(self, value) > > > > self._foo = value > >

Re: Another newbie design question

2007-12-17 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Dec 17, 2007 1:10 PM, Bruno Desthuilliers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hem... May I remind you that Python doesn't have block comments ?-) I suppose we could argue semantics, since """ strings are actually processed, but they are basically block comments. So, there we are, multiline strings A

Re: how to save python interpreter's command history

2006-04-26 Thread Patrick Bothe
If you're using an operating system supporting the readline utility try: http://www.python.org/doc/current/tut/node15.html I am using a slightly modified version of the given example. The last time I checked the size of my history file it had 4k+ entries. Regards, Patrick -- 2

bonobo bindings?

2006-04-30 Thread Patrick Jacquot
Hi group! Did anybosy here have some success using the bonobo bindings to interact with nautilus? -- Patrick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-07 Thread Patrick May
y to be a significant benefit when coding in Common Lisp. Regards, Patrick S P Engineering, Inc.| The experts in large scale distributed OO | systems design and implementation. [EMAIL

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-07 Thread Patrick May
Those are two pragmatic benefits. >> 3. It adds another construction to the language. That's a very minimal cost relative to the benefits. You haven't made your case for named functions being preferable. Regards, Patrick --

Re: A critic of Guido's blog on Python's lambda

2006-05-08 Thread Patrick May
ways (or, perhaps worse, "nearly equivalent but with subtle > differences" ones) to perform identical tasks is a *HUGE* conceptual > cost: I like languages that are and stay SMALL and SIMPLE. Like Scheme? Regards, Patrick

Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2007-12-27 Thread patrick . waldo
Hi all, I tried reading http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Cookbook/Python/Recipe/334695 on the same subject, but it didn't work for me. I'm trying to learn how to make pivot tables from some excel sheets and I am trying to abstract this into a simple sort of example. Essentially I want to take in

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2007-12-27 Thread patrick . waldo
On Dec 27, 10:59 pm, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 28, 4:56 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > from itertools import groupby > > You seem to have overlooked this important sentence in the > documentation: "Generally, the iterable needs to already be sorted on > the same key functi

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2007-12-28 Thread patrick . waldo
Wow, I did not realize it would be this complicated! I'm fairly new to Python and somehow I thought I could find a simpler solution. I'll have to mull over this to fully understand how it works for a bit. Thanks a lot! On Dec 28, 4:03 am, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 28, 11:4

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2007-12-28 Thread patrick . waldo
Petr, thanks for the SQL suggestion, but I'm having enough trouble in Python. John would you mind walking me through your class in normal speak? I only have a vague idea of why it works and this would help me a lot to get a grip on classes and this sort of particular problem. The next step is to

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2007-12-29 Thread patrick . waldo
On Dec 29, 3:00 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Patrick, > > in your first posting you are writing "... I'm trying to learn how to > make pivot tables from some excel sheets...". Can you be more specific > please? AFIK Excel offers very good support for pivot tables.

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2008-01-02 Thread patrick . waldo
Sorry for the delay in my response. New Year's Eve and moving apartment > - Where the data come from (I mean: are your data in Excel already > when you get them)? > - If your primary source of data is the Excel file, how do you read > data from the Excel file to Python (I mean did you solve this

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2008-01-03 Thread patrick . waldo
Yes in the sense that the top part will have merged cells so that Horror and Classics don't need to be repeated every time, but the headers aren't the important part. At this point I'm more interested in organizing the data itself and i can worry about putting it into a new excel file later. -- h

Re: Pivot Table/Groupby/Sum question

2008-01-04 Thread patrick . waldo
Petr thanks so much for your input. I'll try to learn SQL, especially if I'll do a lot of database work. I tried to do it John's way as en exercise and I'm happy to say I understand a lot more. Basically I didn't realize I could nest dictionaries like db = {country:{genre:{sub_genre:3}}} and cal

loading a script from text data

2008-01-10 Thread Patrick Stinson
Is it possible to load a script from it's text data, and not from a file? I'm writing a scripting engine and need to run the scripts right from the editor. cheers! -- Patrick Kidd Stinson http://www.patrickkidd.com/ http://pkaudio.sourceforge.net/ http://pksampler.sourceforge.net

pyExcelerator: writing multiple rows

2008-01-19 Thread patrick . waldo
Hi all, I was just curious if there was a built-in or a more efficient way to do take multiple rows of information and write them into excel using pyExcelerator. This is how I resolved the problem: from pyExcelerator import * data = [[1,2,3],[4,5,'a'],['','s'],[6,7,'g']] wb=pyExcelerator.Work

Re: Removing objects

2008-01-23 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Jan 22, 2008 10:59 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am writing a game, and it must keep a list of objects. I've been > representing this as a list, but I need an object to be able to remove > itself. It doesn't know it's own index. If I tried to make each object > keep track of it's own index

Re: keyword 'in' not returning a bool?

2008-02-08 Thread Patrick Dwyer
'in' has a lower operator precedence than '==' ('t' in sample) == True would fix the operator precedence. On Feb 8, 2008 11:09 AM, c james <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Try this > > >>> sample = {'t':True, 'f':False} > >>> 't' in sample > True > >>> type('t' in sample) > > >>> 't' in sample ==

Re: joining strings question

2008-02-29 Thread patrick . waldo
I tried to make a simple abstraction of my problem, but it's probably better to get down to it. For the funkiness of the data, I'm relatively new to Python and I'm either not processing it well or it's because of BeautifulSoup. Basically, I'm using BeautifulSoup to strip the tables from the Feder

joining strings question

2008-02-29 Thread patrick . waldo
Hi all, I have some data with some categories, titles, subtitles, and a link to their pdf and I need to join the title and the subtitle for every file and divide them into their separate groups. So the data comes in like this: data = ['RULES', 'title','subtitle','pdf', 'title1','subtitle1','pdf1

Re: joining strings question

2008-03-01 Thread patrick . waldo
>def category_iterator(source): > source = iter(source) > try: >while True: > item = source.next() This gave me a lot of inspiration. After a couple of days of banging my head against the wall, I finally figured out a code that could attach headers, titles, numbers,

Re: a Roguelike in Python

2008-03-12 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Carl Banks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Even though it's typically used for graphical games, PyGame would be a > good way to make a cross-platform "text-mode" game. It should be > pretty straightforward to simulate a text mode terminal using a grid > of sprites

Python to C/C++

2008-03-19 Thread Patrick Mullen
(sorry michael, didn't mean to personal post On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 9:24 AM, Michael Wieher wrote: > I think py2exe does this, but it might be a bit bloated No, py2exe basically bundles the main script and the interpreter together so it's easy to run and requires no python installation. Loo

Re: Does python hate cathy?

2008-03-24 Thread Patrick Mullen
It seems like this is mostly a non-issue. The original code actually works correctly (of course the updated versions that solve the exception problem are probably better). The only thing that is going haywire is the interpreter shutdown process. I think it is going a bit overboard to "consider _

Can my own objects support tuple unpacking?

2008-03-26 Thread Patrick Toomey
eptions? I guess my overall question is how tuple unpacking works underneath the covers. Can I implement tuple unpacking for my own objects? Thanks, Patrick -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: [Twisted-web] [ANN] Twisted 8.0

2008-03-27 Thread Patrick Mullen
It's dangerously close to april fools for this kind of posting! Congrats on the release, it looks mighty impressive. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: issue

2009-01-19 Thread Patrick Steiger
What kind of database do you need? Relational Databases? The three major databases you can work with python are SQLite, MySQL and PostgreSQL (favorite of mine.) SQLite already comes with python. Try: >>> import sqlite3 SQLite is... Lite. All the informations are stored in a single file. MySQL

Re: Getting OSError, Could someone suggest?

2009-01-19 Thread Patrick Steiger
2009/1/19 Steven D'Aprano > On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:47:00 +0530, srinivasan srinivas wrote: > > > Hi, > > I have written a script which will spawn more than 200 no of > > subprocesses. I have used subprocess.Popen to do that. > > > > OSError: [Error 24] Too many open files. > > > > Could someon

Re: Does Python really follow its philosophy of "Readability counts"?

2009-01-20 Thread Patrick Steiger
2009/1/20 Paul Rubin <"http://phr.cx"@nospam.invalid> > Luis Zarrabeitia writes: > > No wonder you can't get Bruno's point. For the second, static checks > > to prevent accidents, you have pylint. For the first, not only you > > are using the wrong tool, but you are barking at python for not > >

Re: New to python, open source Mac OS X IDE?

2009-01-28 Thread Patrick Steiger
I would recommend Netbeans with Python plugin, Eric4 and Komodo Edit, with descending order of preference 2009/1/27 [email protected] > Greetings! I've heard enough raving about Python, I'm going to see for > myself what all the praise is for! > > I'm on a Mac. I use Netbeans for Java, P

Re: what IDE is the best to write python?

2009-02-02 Thread Patrick Steiger
2009/2/2 Joe Riopel > I typically use vim/vi, because it's usually already installed on the > OS's I work with and vim for Windows works the same. Also, using the > same editor across these different OS's, I don't have to worry too > much soft/hard tabs. You shouldn't even think about hard tab

Module unloading resulting from SystemExit exception

2009-02-06 Thread Patrick Hartling
r? My hope is that there is a change (simple or not) that can be made to the C code for the frozen executable to resolve the problem. Thanks in advance. -Patrick -- Patrick L. Hartling http://www.137.org/patrick/ /*==*/ /*

incorrect line reported in traceback

2008-11-30 Thread Patrick Stinson
Is there any reason why the last item in the traceback is one frame below the top of the stack? It would be great to show the real line in my editor... -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: incorrect line reported in traceback

2008-11-30 Thread Patrick Stinson
lue, &traceback); if(traceback) // traceback.tb_lineno *lineno = ((PyTracebackObject *) traceback)->tb_lineno; On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:59 PM, John Machin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 1, 4:47 pm, "Patrick Stinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> Is there an

UnicodeDecodeError quick question

2008-12-04 Thread patrick . waldo
) I get a UnicodeDecodeError. However if I do, c = unicode(cell.encode("utf-8"),"utf-8") csvfile.write(c) Why should I have to encode the cell to utf-8 and then make it unicode in order to write to a text file? Is there a more intuitive way to get around these bothersome unicode errors?

Re: Guido's new method definition idea

2008-12-05 Thread Patrick Mullen
>> Daniel Fetchinson wrote: >>> http://neopythonic.blogspot.com/2008/10/why-explicit-self-has-to- > stay.html >>> >>> The proposal is to allow this: >>> >>> class C: >>> def self.method( arg ): >>> self.value = arg >>> return self.value >>> >>> instead of this: >>> >>> class C:

Re: Strengths and weaknesses of Pygame vs. pyglet vs. PyOpenGL?

2008-12-07 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 4:43 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trying to decide which to get started with. Can anyone suggest some > pros and cons to each of them? > > Would PyOpenGL be in the same camp as Pygame and pyglet? Do either of > Pygame or pyglet make use of PyOpenGL behind the scenes? > -

Re: Guido's new method definition idea

2008-12-08 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Arnaud Delobelle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> class C: >> def createfunc(self): >> def self.func(arg): >> return arg + 1 >> >> Or, after the class definition is done, to extend it dynamically: >> >> def C.method

Re: "as" keyword woes

2008-12-10 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 6:57 AM, MRAB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Aaron Brady wrote: >> >> On Dec 9, 12:40 pm, MRAB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> Aaron Brady wrote: On Dec 9, 8:28 am, MRAB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > In some languages (I think Delphi is one of t

Re: "as" keyword woes

2008-12-10 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Benjamin Kaplan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Patrick Mullen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> I don't have a huge stake in this, but I wouldn't mind a change to >> allow any

Re: New Python 3.0 string formatting - really necessary?

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 10:15 PM, r wrote: > On Dec 20, 11:11 pm, walterbyrd wrote: >> On Dec 20, 5:05 pm, Roy Smith >> >> > He got really hung up on the % syntax. >> >> I guess it's good to know that there is, at least, one person in the >> world doesn't like the % formatting. As least the move

Re: New Python 3.0 string formatting - really necessary?

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:26 AM, r wrote: > I noticed when i mentioned "self" nobody wants to touch that subject. > There could be many reasons why... > > 0.) nobody but the 10 regulars i see here exists > 1.) nobody cares(doubt it) > 2.) nobody is brave enough to question it(maybe) > 3.) most pe

Re: Are Django/Turbogears too specific?

2008-12-21 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Gilles Ganault wrote: > Hi > > I'd like to rewrite a Web 2.0 PHP application in Python with AJAX, and > it seems like Django and Turbogears are the frameworks that have the > most momentum. > > I'd like to use this opportunity to lower the load on servers, as the

Re: How do I DRY the following code?

2008-12-29 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:13 PM, R. Bernstein wrote: > How do I DRY the following code? > > class C(): > > def f1(self, arg1, arg2=None, globals=None, locals=None): > ... unique stuff #1 ... > ... some common stuff #1 ... > ret = eval(args, globals, locals) > ... more stuff #2

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-24 Thread Patrick Stinson
I'm not finished reading the whole thread yet, but I've got some things below to respond to this post with. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Glenn Linderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On approximately 10/23/2008 12:24 AM, came the following characters from the > keyboard of Christian Heimes: >>

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-24 Thread Patrick Stinson
We are in the same position as Andy here. I think that something that would help people like us produce something in code form is a collection of information outlining the problem and suggested solutions, appropriate parts of the CPython's current threading API, and pros and cons of the many vario

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-24 Thread Patrick Stinson
As a side note to the performance question, we are executing python code in an audio thread that is used in all of the top-end music production environments. We have found the language to perform extremely well when executed at control-rate frequency, meaning we aren't doing DSP computations, just

urlsplit() and windows paths

2008-10-28 Thread Patrick Mézard
returning a 6-tuple. This corresponds to the general structure of a URL: scheme://netloc/path;parameters?query#fragment. """ What kind of URLs does it parse not containing "://" ? -- Patrick Mézard -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-29 Thread Patrick Stinson
d yet we are so close! This is a big deal. > > > Perfectly said, Patrick. It pains me to know how widespread python > *could* be in commercial software! > > Also, good points about people being longwinded and that "code talks". > > Sadly, the time alone I've

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-29 Thread Patrick Stinson
on Python sandboxes, he could be a helpful > supporter. > > Questions for Andy: is the type of work you want to do in independent > threads mostly pure Python? Or with libraries that you can control to some > extent? Are those libraries reentrant? Could they be made reentrant? How >

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-29 Thread Patrick Stinson
; code and frameworks always use a context object pattern so that > there's never and non-const global/shared data). I would go as far to > say that this is the case with more performance-oriented software than > you may think since it's usually a given for us to have to be pa

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-29 Thread Patrick Stinson
discussed above) > - maturity (are we ready to bet the farm that mp is going to work > properly on the platforms we need it to?) > > Again, I'm psyched that multiprocessing appeared in 2.6 and it's a > huge huge step in getting everyone to unlock the power of python! >

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-30 Thread Patrick Stinson
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:05 PM, Glenn Linderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On approximately 10/29/2008 3:45 PM, came the following characters from the > keyboard of Patrick Stinson: >> >> If you are dealing with "lots" of data like in video or sound editing,

Re: 2.6, 3.0, and truly independent intepreters

2008-10-30 Thread Patrick Stinson
ler: >> >> On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Glenn Linderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On approximately 10/29/2008 3:45 PM, came the following characters from >>> the >>> keyboard of Patrick Stinson: >>> &g

Re: using exec() to instantiate a new object.

2008-11-07 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM, RyanN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > to do this I tried: > >def addCountry(self,country_name): ># create an instance of country >exec(country_name + "= country('" + country_name + "')") ># Add this new instance of a country to a list >

Re: Multiple separate py2exe executables and library.zip

2009-03-01 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 8:35 AM, The Dude wrote: >   Hello, > >   Each invocation of py2exe creates an executable along with a number of > other files which need to be distributed with it, including library.zip. I > noticed that compiling different scripts creates different, and incompatible > libr

Re: py2exe automatic upgrades of a program while it is running, is that possible?

2009-03-03 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Maxim Khitrov wrote: > - Show quoted text - > On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 9:18 PM, William Heath wrote: >> Hi All, >> I am using py2exe to create a windows executable.  I am curious if anyone >> knows a way to automatically upgrade a py2exe windows executable while it i

Re: Python Goes Mercurial

2009-04-03 Thread Patrick Mullen
2009/4/3 Jeremiah Dodds : > > > On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 9:02 PM, andrew cooke wrote: >> >> Echo wrote: >> > 2009/4/2 Jeremiah Dodds >> > >> >> The one thing that makes me want to use git more than any other dvcs is >> >> that you don't have to create a new directory for branches. This may be >> >>

Re: Too early implementation

2009-04-18 Thread Patrick Mullen
2009/4/18 Filip Gruszczyński : > Yep, I have heard a lot about test driven development. I am now > programming a lot using DJango and I would like to use its test > framework to try it. However, I have little experience with this (as > most people I know). I also have no idea, how to apply this, wh

Re: Python Packages : A looming problem? packages might no longer work? (well not on your platform or python version anyway)

2009-04-22 Thread Patrick Mullen
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 9:33 PM, David Lyon wrote: > Hi Steve, >>> Why should the package developer dictacte which python version the >>> package will run on ? >> >> Because they're the developer. Who else should decide what Python >> versions to support? > The developer shouldn't be making such d

Re: Passing functions around and executing

2008-05-14 Thread Patrick Mullen
Here's a quick dumb example, hope it helps: def function1(a,b,c): print a,b,c def function2(x): print x def function3(y): print y+3 def executeall(list): print "setting up" for function,args in list: function(*args) #Calls the function passing in the arguments mylist = [[f

statically linking release build on mac

2008-05-22 Thread Patrick Stinson
I get an error reporting an unfound symbol using a statically linked release build of python2.5 on a OSX-Tiger. This works fine on leopard, where the system default python is version 2.5.1 - the same version that I'm using to link to. Sorry, I'm currently screwing with my configs and don't have a

Re: statically linking release build on mac

2008-05-22 Thread Patrick Stinson
, Patrick Stinson < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I get an error reporting an unfound symbol using a statically linked > release build of python2.5 on a OSX-Tiger. This works fine on leopard, where > the system default python is version 2.5.1 - the same version that I'm using > to

Re: MVC

2008-05-22 Thread Patrick Mullen
In my experience, python is very pattern agnostic. You can do functional or object oriented or procedural fairly easily, have deep or light object trees, or even mix procedural style with some object oriented code if you like. "There should be one way to do it" tends to not apply as much as some

Re: Python is slow

2008-05-24 Thread Patrick Mullen
Judging python's speed by how fast websites go is not going to work very well. There are many things that can bog down the "speed" of loading a web site, especially if you are judging speed by how long a page takes to load. torontolife.com is loading extremely slow for me also. So is wikipedia. M

Re: Code correctness, and testing strategies

2008-05-24 Thread Patrick Mullen
I can see both sides of this argument, and I think TDD is great in some cases and not so great in others. I have used it before, but don't use it often, as the programs I write are very difficult to automatically test. (Games, which many of the bugs have to do with whether an optimization produces

Re: Python web development that resembles PHP or classic ASP

2008-05-25 Thread Patrick Mullen
Hi Erik, As far as I know the only full web framework that works with a primarily inline style is spyce, which is not currently under active development. I used it for a while and it was the first python framework I used. I think it's pretty good, if a little bit of an underdog. That said, usin

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

2008-05-25 Thread Patrick Mullen
There are certainly situations where data hiding is useful and perhaps a wanted feature, but there has to be at least one place where I can use what I want when I want to with some high and mighty designer telling me what I should and shouldn't access. One of the reasons they have data hiding in s

Re: Why does python not have a mechanism for data hiding?

2008-05-25 Thread Patrick Mullen
Here is a quick, ugly way you can easily hide data, although persistent clients can still bypass it. x.__dict__ is ugly, though not any uglier than x.__Ugly__Internal__Variable__Do__Not__Set Another option would be to use another structure, such as a dictionary or list, and store variables in the

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