i.e., http://docs.python.org/lib/typesmapping.html
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I wouldn't call the responses here helpful; they seem overspecific. I
had a similar problem which led to the follwing code. After I came up
with this I saw a very similar utility was derived in Dive into Python.
see
http://diveintopython.org/power_of_introspection/index.html#apihelper.divein
Any
(unwisely taking the bait...)
If you like your language to look like this
http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~szymansk/OOF90/bugs.html
then more power to you.
I prefer my languages to be portable, terse and expressive. That's why
I like Python. If you want your language to be obscure, ill-defined and
inconsis
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> Michael Tobis wrote:
> > (unwisely taking the bait...)
> >
> > If you like your language to look like this
> > http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~szymansk/OOF90/bugs.html
> > then more power to you.
>
> Thanks for pointing out that interesting
On 30 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sparring
> with Alex Martelli is like boxing Mike Tyson, except that one
> experiences brain enhancement rather than brain damage :).
+1 QOTW
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Michael Tobis wrote:
> Fortran 90/95 is more expressive than Fortran 77 in many ways, as
> described in ...
> http://www.nr.com/CiP97.pdf .
>
> ... expresses more science per
> line of code and per programming workday.
The example shown on p 10
With all due respect, I think "so go away if you don't like it" is
excessive, and "so go away if you don't like it and you obviously don't
like it so definitely go away" is more so. The writer is obviously
neither a native speaker of English nor an accomplished user of Python,
so there are two lang
> that's a nice theory, but since the decorator line is executed by the
inter-
> preter, it's a little weak.
Well, uh, who else would process it?
"use strict' and 'my epsilon' in perl are executed by the perl
interpreter as well, but they have a declarative flavor.
A decorator is a modifier to a
I just wanted to see if anyone else experienced a problem with the
Thread.join() method in Python 2.4. Unfortunately, I did not debug this
problem fully before re-writing my code to avoid Thread.join().
My specific situation was that I called subprocess.Popen() to spawn a
separate process with th
This is definitely a wart:
... z = 42.3
...
... def f():
...if False:
... global z
...z = -666
...
... f()
... print z
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Alex Martelli wrote:
> Michael Tobis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> he can perfectly
> well correct his misexpression if he cares to -- not my job to try to
> read his mind and perform exegesis on his words.
Well, I hate to try to tell you your job, but it doesn't seem to
Given the behavior, the documentation is gratifyingly correct.
Given that the syntax is legal, though, the behavior is not what one
would intuitively expect, and is therefore unPythonic by (rather
dramatically) violating the principle of least surprise.
It's also, to me, understandable why it's d
> How common is it for a local variable to be bound in
> more than one place within a function?
It's more natural for a beginner to read or write
.mystr = ""
.for snippet in snippets:
. if ilike(snippet):
. mystr = mystr + snippet
than
.mylist = []
.for snippet in snippets:
. if ilike(
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> All in all, I fail to see what gains would be expected by making
Python
> into a single-assignment or single-binding language, even on a module
by
> module basis, to repay this kind of awkwardness.
Just to be clear, if anyone was suggesting that, it wasn't me.
It would be helpful on occasion in
he
box about George Bush on his Homepage.. it shows that he is a well-thinking
person. So, don't blame him in general.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Peter Nuttall wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 11:47:41PM -0500, Caleb Hattingh wrote:
>> Hi Alex
>>
>> Assuming you have a file called "data.txt":
>>
>> ***
>> f = open('data.txt','r')
>> lines = f.readlines()
>> f.close()
>> for line in lines:
>> print line
>
gt;>> list(filterdups3([1,2,2,3,3,3,4,4,4,2,2,5]))
[1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
>>>
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tring equal to an integer, which it really didn't like.
Marc
For your problem as stated:
>>> a=b=c="1"
>>> for var in ["a","b","c"]:
... exec "%s = int(%s)" % (var,var)
...
>>> a,b,c
(1, 1, 1)
>>>
But don't do this, except as a "one-off" data crunching exercise
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2003""".splitlines()
>>> step1result
['2000', '2001', '2002', '2003']
>>> step2query = "Prefix " + ",".join(["Case %s" % year for year in
step1result]) + " Postfix"
>>> step2query
'Prefix Case 2000,Case 2001,Case 2002,Case 2003 Postfix'
HTH
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Jorey Bump wrote:
> ... Is there a NotSoSimpleHTTPServer? ...
Steve Holden wrote:
> ... You want ExtremelyBloodyComplicatedHTTPServer :-)
Lee Harr wrote:
... I think I would point to twisted for that.
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anyone see a simpler
way of writing this?
STeVe
max(lst) ;-)
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> import time, datetime
>>> a_date = datetime.date.today()
>>> s = str(a_date)
>>> print s
2005-02-04
Now I convert it back:
>>> new_date = datetime.date.fromtimestamp(
... time.mktime(time.strptime(s, '%Y-%m-%d')))
>>> new_date
dateti
una(**b))
>>> a
{'y': 2, 'x': 1, 'z': 3}
>>> b
{'y': 3, 'x': 3, 'z': 6}
>>>
Alternatively, you could use exec:
>>> a = {'x':1, 'y':2}
>>> b = {'x':3, 'y':3}
>>> exec "z = x + y" in globals(), a
>>> a
{'y': 2, 'x': 1, 'z': 3}
>>> exec "z = x + y" in globals(), b
>>> b
{'y': 3, 'x': 3, 'z': 6}
>>>
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Bo Peng wrote:
Michael Spencer wrote:
>
There are hundreds of items in the dictionary (that will be needed in
the calculation) so passing the whole dictionary is a lot better than
passing individual items.
...
def fun(d):
exec 'z = x + y' in globals(), d
seems to be more readable
bool'
Any comments?
Fahri
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for |: 'NoneType' and 'bool'
operator.or_ is "|" i.e., bitwise, not logical or
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Nick Coghlan wrote:
Michael Spencer wrote:
def fun(dict):
# set dict as local namespace
# locals() = dict?
z = x + y
As you no doubt have discovered from the docs and this group, that
isn't doable with CPython.
Not entirely impossible:
Py> def f(d):
... exec "loca
Fahri Basegmez wrote:
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Fahri Basegmez wrote:
reduce(lambda x, y: x or y, lst)
works but when I tried
import operator
reduce(operator.or_, lst)
this did not work. It pukes
Traceback (most recent c
d = Model(a)
>>> d.z
3
>>> d.z1
4
>>> a
{'y': 2, 'x': 1, 'z': 3, 'z1': 4}
>>> d= Model(b)
>>> d.z1
9
>>> b
{'y': 3, 'x': 3, 'z': 6, 'z1': 9}
>>>
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Alex Martelli wrote:
Nick Coghlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
Michael Spencer also posted ...
Wasted indirection, IMHO. A better implementation:
class attr_view(object):
def __init__(self, data):
self.__dict__ = data
Alex
Indeed! A complete brain-blip
Michael
-
could take an additional keyword argument to set its
__dict__
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Use the eval function:
>>> eval("30/(6+9)")
2
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Adam brings up a good point: eval is a very general function which
evaluates an arbitrary Python expression. As a result, it (and its
close cousin exec) should be used with caution if security is an issue.
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Peter Hansen wrote:
> Michael, tai64nlocal is a program that converts a special "packed"
> timestamp to human-readable form.
Thanks Peter. I was asking somewhat rhetorically but I have a love of
UNIX arcana and now I know. :)
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John Roth wrote:
> you need _both_ isinstance and the types module to do a correct
> check for any string type: isinstance(fubar, types.StringTypes).
> That's because both string and unicode are subtypes of one base.
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doubt you'll
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e's a lot of dodgy governments in
the world. (Then again, Xah may just have "net-tourettes" (no offense to
anyone intended) :-)
However 4 continents rolling their eyes? I'm guessing that you're in the
North American continent from your email, I'm in Europe, so that's at least
2 continents...
>:-)
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Paul Watson wrote:
> While printf() does tightly control formatting in C, it does not in
> Python.
There is no printf() in Python. You should not think of print as being a
Python version of printf.
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ackspace character.
> If you feed this output to another program, chances are it will
> not treat as no space at all.
>
> I prefer building up a list and doing ' '.join(thelist) in these situations.
A much better approach. Or you can use sys.stdout.write() as others have
Find a new release of python-ldap:
http://python-ldap.sourceforge.net/
python-ldap provides an object-oriented API to access LDAP directory
servers from Python programs. It mainly wraps the OpenLDAP 2.x libs for
that purpose. Additionally it contains modules for other LDAP-related
stuff (e.g. p
ggs.
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__init__(self, x, y)
> self.z = z
> #--
Well for the example you used, multiple constructors are not needed.
This will get you the same result as what I imagine you wanted the
first example to do:
class myPointClass:
def __init__(self, x=0, y=0, z=0):
self.x = x
Peter Hansen wrote:
> Using Jason Orendorff's "path" module, all this code basically collapses
> down to this beauty (with your variable "path" renamed to myPath to
> avoid a name collision):
This has to be the non-stdlib library I use the most. It
like the code to be written in C).
Any inputs?
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understand why this isn't in 2.4
Because it would break existing code.
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o True or False, mainly as a
compatibility measure for the days before they were built-ins. If you
try assigning None, CPython will refuse to compile the module, even if
the code where None is assigned is unreachable.
If there was ever a good reason to assign to None, I don't know it.
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Antoon Pardon wrote:
> Op 2005-06-22, Michael Hoffman schreef <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>>Remi Villatel wrote:
>>
>>>Fredrik Lundh wrote:
>>>
>>>>checking if a logical expression is true by comparing it to True is bad
>>>>style, an
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avior using a dummy class. If you try to create a
self-contained testcase, you will have an easier time figuring where the
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ing featurism. Is this actually useful in real code?
Personally, I use it all the time. It's a much more convenient literal
for a dictionary. And before it was introduced I used this utility function:
def mkdict(**kwargs):
return kwargs
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Robert Kern wrote:
> I would like to see the setuptools/PythonEggs/EasyInstall trifecta get
> more attention and eyeballs. Once it is mature, I think that it will
> obviate the desire for stdlibification of most of the packages being
> requested here.
Looks pretty cool!
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> I think he means something like this:
> e = 'i_am_an_attribute'
> o.(e) = 10
> o.i_am_an_attribute == 10
I always use the getattr() and setattr() built-ins which could be
considered syntactic sugar when compared to the alternatives above.
But that's all the syntactic sugar you need--any more will give you
cancer of the semicolon.
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nsophisticated and dumb?
>
> Be blunt. We Americans need to know.
To be blunt, I have no idea what this has to do with Python. Surely
selecting the right forum to use indicates more sophistication and high
intelligence than the way one speaks. ;-)
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muldoon wrote:
> Michael Hoffman wrote:
>>muldoon wrote:
>>
>>>Americans consider having a "British accent" a sign of sophistication
>>>and high intelligence. Many companies hire salespersons from Britain to
>>>represent their products,etc. Qu
The
original function a(x) will still be stored as a closure in what is
returned from b().
If this is of purely academic interest then the answer is I don't know. :)
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may help, but I wonder if there is a ready-to-use function in python
> libs?
That's a good start. Why doesn't dircmp work for you?
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n't understand the original question either until Robert Kern
guessed what the OP was talking about.
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trangely enough there are Brits who pronounce "hotel" without an H at
the beginning. And even those who pronounce it with an H sometimes say
"an hotel" rather than "a hotel" because it used to be pronounced
starting with the vowel!
Similarly, the Brits should
could ildg wrote:
> I found dircmp compare only the direct dirs and files,
> and it will not do anything to the sub-directories.
The documentation for dircmp.report_full_closure() disagrees with you.
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leave a link behind to
the new location. Corrections welcome, and opinions may abound!
ObPython (if needed ;) : Notes were taken using a wysiwyg editor of mine
written using PyQT :-)
Have fun...
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hat the value is ephemeral, the fact it isn't name emphasises it's
unimportance and the repetition (in the above case) really makes it clear.
It also _looks_ like the value is thrown away as well.
And it doesn't clutter up your namespace...
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;
>
> where is the problem?
The problem is that you are using IDLE (and an old version at that),
which doesn't use sys.ps2.
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shisa wrote:
> What should I do to correct the errors accordingly?
What error? IDLE appears to be behaving as designed.
Also, please don't top-post--it makes responding to your message in a
way that others can understand more difficult.
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ous command (which
> is generally the name of my script, or a command like "python
> myscript.py"), and hit Enter to execute it.
I do the same thing without a command prompt, just pressing F5. SciTE
sure is a good editor :-)
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Imagine being in a coma for a year and
d "window manager" (really stretching things there, surface manager
might be more appropriate) for components, and audio decode/playback.
It isn't as mature as Twisted though, so that should affect your viewpoint!
(Had some good chats at Europython though about how we can go about
integration with twisted!)
I suppose it should be possible to have pools of existing
components for wiring into connections on demand though, which
might be interesting.
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in data:
> whatever
> finally:
> data.close()
>
> Guido has made a pronouncement on open vs. file. I think he prefers
> open for opening files, and file for type testing, but may well be
> wrong. I don't think it's critical.
He has said tha
h a simpler testcase. Strangely, the exception occurs in
the statement *following* the os.utime() call:
>>> import os, sys
>>> os.utime("foo_test_file", (0, float(sys.maxint+1)))
>>> print "hi"
OverflowError: long int too large to convert to int
Loo
Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> All Python behavior in the presence of infinities, NaNs, and signed
> zeroes is a platform-dependent accident, mostly inherited from that
> all C89 behavior in the presence of infinities, NaNs, and signed
> zeroes is a platform-dependent crapshoot.
As you
might just be added for bash.
That said, this would be very useful. You should submit an RFE on the
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Greg Lindstrom wrote:
> I hear that Perl 6 is
> going to have a rewrite of regular expressions; it will be interesting
> to see what their hard work produces.
From what I saw a while ago, it didn't look like it would be any
simpler or more elegant. But that was a while ag
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> > access to the platforms to be supported. I've tested a fix
> > that supports pickle streams generated
l the
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and signed
> >> zeroes is a platform-dependent crapshoot.
>
> [Michael Hudson]
> > As you may have noticed by now, I'd kind of like to stop you saying
> > this :) -- at least on platforms where doubles are good old-fashioned
> > 754 8-byte values.
>
>
Will McGugan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Qiangning Hong wrote:
> > On 7/6/05, Will McGugan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Are there any benefits in using a frozenset over a set, other than it
> >>being immutable?
> > A frozenset can be used as a key of a dict:
>
> Thanks, but
r similar
is what you're looking for instead short-lived CGI-BIN programs forked
by the web server.
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bout a software project as it is an
article using that project to present an alternative way of thinking
about how object oriented programming (and Python!) can relate to high
performance simulations.
I welcome comments.
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> Here's the bug. You're using Windows.
QOTW (speaking as someone who is using Windows right now).
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e you don't seem
to have anything callable named ctor. As for the constructor, just call
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re you
expecting to happen?
Your call to '$interpreter eval' lets you call arbitrary python code,
but you have to provide the python code that loads your function
definitions etc. I don't know python, but it should be a trivial code.
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Throne Software wrote:
> Throne Software has opened up a Python Forum at:
>
> http://www.thronesoftware.com/forum/
>
> Join us!
Why shouldn't I just stay here?
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>>> B.TheAnswer
'The Answer according to __metaclass__ is 42'
>>>
this means that the getter doesn't automatically get a reference to the class
(since it is a method of metaclass), which may or may not matter, depending on
the application
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nce of infinities, NaNs, and signed
> >>>> zeroes is a platform-dependent crapshoot.
>
> [Michael Hudson]
> >>> As you may have noticed by now, I'd kind of like to stop you saying
> >>> this :) -- at least on platforms where doubles are good old-fashi
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> > [Donn Cave]
> >> I ran into a phenomenon that seemed odd to me, while testing a
> >> build of Python 2.4.1 on BeOS 5.04, on PowerPC 603e.
> >>
> >> test_builtin.py, for examp
David Siroky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi!
>
> When I "compile" my python files with "python -OO " into pyo files
> then they still contain absolute paths of the source files which is
> undesirable for me. How can I deal with that?
Are you trying to save space? In 2.4 and later each cod
I doubt anyone else is reading this by now, so I've trimmed quotes
fairly ruthlessly :)
Tim Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Actually, I think I'm confused about when Underflow is signalled -- is it
> > when a denormalized result is about to be returned or when a genuine
> > zero is about t
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> [Michael Hudson]
> > I doubt anyone else is reading this by now, so I've trimmed quotes
> > fairly ruthlessly :)
>
> Damn -- there goes my best hope at learning how large a message gmail
> can handle before blowing
gs *x and **y instead,
but they will still act just like *args and **kwargs.
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i'll be straight with you and say that this is a homework assignment.
ive tried to figure it out on my own but am now out of time.
i need to go through a .txt file and get rid of all punctuation. also,
every time i see the work "Fruitloops=1" or "Hamburgers=x" where x is
ANY number i need to get
hey, i have this huge text file and i need to go through and remove all
punctuation and every instance of the phrase "fruitloops=$" where $ is
any number 0-100" um, and yeah this is homework but i've tried to no
avail. thanks guys. cheerio :). jen
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>
> is it possible to give parameters like the IP of a DNS server and the
> DNS query to a python program and obtain the response from the DNS
> server ?
http://pydns.sf.net
http://www.dnspython.org/
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=python+dns&btnG=Google+S
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Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I've read over and over that Python leaves floating point
> issues up to the underlying platform.
Please read the conversation Tim and I are having in the "Re:
math.nroot [was Re: A brief question.]" elsewhere in this same
newsgroup.
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> >> happy to use gcc, they all could have used the older gcc spellings
> >> (which are in fpectlmodule.c, BTW, under the __GLIBC__ #ifdef).
>
> [Michael]
> > Um, well, no, not really. The stuff under __GLIBC___ unsurprisingly
> > applies to plat
ty for the BBC - which has clear benefits for everyone!
(Even though the internet is not TV :)
Kamaelia is designed to be able to picked up relatively quickly/easily,
but having a working knowledge of python is probably a necessity.
If you're interested, please let me know! (Either before, or at
D H wrote:
> See the mechanize module: http://wwwsearch.sourceforge.net/mechanize/
I second this, a very useful module. I've unfortunately had to change it
a little to deal with inevitably bad HTML supplied by web sites.
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our existing a and b "a0" and "b0", and the next a and b
"a1" and "b1". When you do a, b = b, a+b you are assigning:
a1 = b0
b1 = a0 + b0
But when you use separate statements, you are assigning:
a1 = b0
b1 = a1 + b0 = b0 + b0 = 2*b0
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emplating language looked less nice than the rest of it
on first glance, it says you don't have to use it though...
Michael
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(n1,n2)). I'm glad this is forbidden now.
Ciao, Michael.
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eAttrs)
> result_type, result_data = cnx.result(ldap_result_id, 0)
You don't need this if you just want to use synchronous search method.
Ciao, Michael.
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