Re: how best to split into singleton and sequence

2005-10-18 Thread Erik Max Francis
generates a ValueError. Did you want to only split once at most? Then it's s.split('|', 1). Did you want to assign the first element to the first variable and the rest to the next? Then it's x = s.split('|'); a, b = x[0], x[1:]. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL

Re: Set an environment variable

2005-10-21 Thread Erik Max Francis
executed in it would have no effect on the state of another. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Success and failure are equally disastrous. -- Tennessee Wi

Re: path

2005-10-22 Thread Erik Max Francis
Help on function index in module string: index(s, *args) index(s, sub [,start [,end]]) -> int Like find but raises ValueError when the substring is not found. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 2

Re: An interesting question about "print '\a'"

2005-10-23 Thread Erik Max Francis
terminals respond by beeping. Since, when you're logged into a remote machine, it's your terminal that's displaying the output of your remote session, that's why you hear the beep on your local machine. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://

Re: XML Tree Discovery (script, tool, __?)

2005-10-24 Thread Erik Max Francis
is. Look up XML DOM. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis An ounce of hypocrisy is worth a pound of ambition. -- Michael Korda -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: a Haskell a Day

2005-10-26 Thread Erik Max Francis
Xah Lee wrote: > This is my learning notes on Haskell. I call it a-Haskell-a-day. Another day, another community to completely piss of, huh, Xah? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W &&

Re: Rich __repr__

2005-10-31 Thread Erik Max Francis
s can't handle these, of course). If it's a relatively straightforward class where the entire state is exposed through the constructor, then a friendly repr is possible. Otherwise, it's not, and trying to otherwise do so may just be confusing. -- Erik Max Francis &&

Re: Rich __repr__

2005-11-02 Thread Erik Max Francis
on the circumstances. There is no uniform solution here. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis We must all hang together, or, most assuredly, we will all hang sepa

Re: R.I.P. Vaults of Parnassus?

2005-11-07 Thread Erik Max Francis
aum wrote: > The Vaults of Parnassus site: > http://www.vex.net/parnassus/ > has been down for several days, with no resolution available for the > vex.net domain. It's working fine here. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/

Re: What do you use as symbols for Python ?

2005-11-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
pically, in C or C++, I would use an enum for that: > enum OBJECT_STATE > { > opened, closed, error > } OPENED, CLOSED, ERROR = range(3) object.state = OPENED -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA &a

Re: PIL- error message- cannot open libtiff.so.3

2005-11-11 Thread Erik Max Francis
now why it's doing this as I'm trying to > open a JPEG, and not a tiff. I tried with a .bmp with similar results. > Any ideas? Thanks! Install libtiff. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
David T wrote: > Individuals, and perhaps groups of individuals are the creators of > works. When someone pays you to create a work, then they own the copyright, not you. It's called work for hire. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
Mike Meyer wrote: > Further, recent evidence is that this is no longer true in that > country, assuming it ever was. Oh, please. Take the political crap elsewhere. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA &

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
Bruno Desthuilliers wrote: > Depends on the country's laws and the exact agreement. Work for hire is part of the Berne convention. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erik

Re: Copyright [was Re: Python Obfuscation]

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
ame. Often, in fact, they are not. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Life is painting a picture, not doing a sum. -- Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Proposal for adding symbols within Python

2005-11-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
s already easy enough to do this within the language, by just assigning it a value, even if it's an integer from range/xrange or a new sentinel like object(). -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121

Re: Python obfuscation

2005-11-15 Thread Erik Max Francis
have paid you if you didn't (implicitly) transfer the copyright to them. So copyright is just as relevant whether it's a work for hire or not. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM er

Re: best cumulative sum

2005-11-20 Thread Erik Max Francis
Micah Elliott wrote: > On Nov 21, David Isaac wrote: > >> What's the good way to produce a cumulative sum? > >>>> import operator >>>> x = 1,2,3 >>>> reduce(operator.add, x) > 6 Or just sum(x). -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL P

Re: join dictionaries using keys from one & values

2005-12-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
ltin method. The usual way is to just wrap a class around two dictionaries, one for mapping keys to values and the other for mapping values back to keys. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W &&a

Re: Usenet falsehoods (was Re: Bitching about the documentation...)

2005-12-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
* taken seriously > using names that aren't what you'd call a "real name". The fact that it obviously isn't always true without exception doesn't mean it's never true. Or did that not occur to you? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] &

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
ut it looks like only genetic algorithms are supported, not full genetic programming. Is this not the case? I've been planning on releasing my stack-based genetic programming system Psi (implemented in Python) at some point in the future, FYI. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTE

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-06 Thread Erik Max Francis
d in. You can't teach all things simultaneously; I'm not sure creating a genetic programming (or genetic algorithms) system that's useful to "newbies" (whatever that means) is even a useful goal in and of itself. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] &a

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-06 Thread Erik Max Francis
tic algorithm system, not genetic a programming system, hence his response. It was only my interpretation of his introductory comment that led anyone to believe otherwise. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 1

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-06 Thread Erik Max Francis
enetic algorithm). Recent developments, with stack-based languages like those used by Spector, have allowed the introduction of types naturally into genetic programming, which has a great deal of promise for allowing even more involves solutions to complex problems. -- Erik Max Francis

Re: Xah's Edu Corner: Examples of Quality Technical Writing

2005-12-06 Thread Erik Max Francis
iquette. ;-) His "points" have about the same legitimacy as banging on the keyboard until it breaks and then crying for an hour. At least if he did that, we'd have to hear from him less. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ Sa

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-07 Thread Erik Max Francis
rea. Thanks again for the comments. Sure thing. Obviously I'll post an announcement here when it's ready. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Heaven and

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
ts), but beyond intermixing ideas they really aren't related. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis I never could have predicted / That I'd feel this way

Re: ANN: pygene - genetic algorithms package

2005-12-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
malv wrote: > Thank you kindly, Erik. Sure thing. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis It is only the poor who are forbidden to beg. -- Anatole France

Re: Proposal: Inline Import

2005-12-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
dead on arrival. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis There's a reason why we / Keep chasing morning -- Sandra St. Victor -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Notification of PEP Updates

2005-01-07 Thread Erik Max Francis
and edit your settings to select just the 'peps' topic. Maybe someone could roll this into an RSS feed? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis There'

Re: "A Fundamental Turn Toward Concurrency in Software"

2005-01-07 Thread Erik Max Francis
back of my mind that languages that can easily support massive (especially automatic) parallelization will have their day in the sun, at least someday. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AI

Re: [perl-python] 20050113 looking up syntax

2005-01-14 Thread Erik Max Francis
Peter Hansen wrote: So why duplicate the posts by posting them to the newsgroups? Because he's a well-known pest. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Yes I

ANN: BOTEC 0.3 -- An astrophysical and orbital mechanics calculator

2005-01-15 Thread Erik Max Francis
[since 0.2] - 0.3, 2005 Jan 15. Separate transfers from maneuvers; support Oberth maneuvers. - 0.2.1, 2005 Jan 8. Various collected modifications. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W &&

Re: [perl-python] 20050117, filter, map

2005-01-16 Thread Erik Max Francis
he need to post it here for? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Make it come down / Like molasses rain -- Sandra St. Victor -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: iteritems() and enumerate()

2005-01-19 Thread Erik Max Francis
Xah Lee wrote: Python has iteritems() and enumerate() to be used in for loops. can anyone tell me what these are by themselves, if anything? are they just for idiom? thanks. You would be funnier if you weren't so incompetent. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http:

Re: [perl-python] 20050121 file reading & writing

2005-01-23 Thread Erik Max Francis
memory at once. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Can I lay with you / As your wife -- India Arie -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Looking for Form Feeds

2005-01-24 Thread Erik Max Francis
;= 0: ... If you want to keep a running count, you can use .count, which will count the number of substrings in the line. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis I would have liked to have seen Montana. -- Capt. Vasily Borodin -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: The next Xah-lee post contest

2005-01-31 Thread Erik Max Francis
Steve Holden wrote: Would there, I wonder, be any enthusiasm for a "Best Xah Lee impression" prize at PyCon? I imagine standing in a corner, facing the wall, and screaming incoherently at the top of your lungs would be guaranteed at least second place. -- Erik Max Francis &&

Re: [perl-python] string pattern matching

2005-02-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
someone finding his posts and not seeing the related discussion and refutations is a big risk. For the rest of us, we can just killfile the threads easily enough. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W

Re: [perl-python] string pattern matching

2005-02-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
already being handled, at low levels of annoyance that can be avoided by anyone with a killfile or mail filter. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Divorces are made

Re: How do you do arrays

2005-02-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis War is like love, it always finds a way. -- Bertolt Brecht -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Python choice of database

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Max Francis
, I thought of using shelve, but looking at > the restrictions (record size + potential collisions) I feel I should study > my options a bit further before I get started. Why not just use native Python data structures and pickle them? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] &&a

Re: Python choice of database

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Max Francis
Philippe C. Martin wrote: > Well that would be shelve I guess ... with the restrictions I mentioned. I was talking about pickle, not shelve. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && A

Re: Python choice of database

2005-06-20 Thread Erik Max Francis
Philippe C. Martin wrote: > You mean pickling a dictionnary of 5000/16K objects ? Yes. You said speed was not an issue; pickling only 5000 objects, each no more than 16 kB, is easily handled by any remotely modern machine (and even plenty which are not very modern). -- Erik Max Fran

Pickling limitation with instances defining __cmp__/__hash__?

2005-06-27 Thread Erik Max Francis
ost recent call last): File "/home/max/tmp/hash.py", line 25, in ? d = pickle.loads(data) File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/pickle.py", line 1394, in loads return Unpickler(file).load() File "/usr/local/lib/python2.4/pickle.py", line 872, in loa

Re: Dictionary to tuple

2005-06-28 Thread Erik Max Francis
bruno modulix wrote: > Err... don't you spot any useless code here ?-) > > (tip: dict.items() already returns a list of (k,v) tuples...) But it doesn't return a tuple of them. Which is what the tuple call there does. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] &a

Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "British accent"...

2005-06-28 Thread Erik Max Francis
same sort of thing which Brits try and imitate when > they want to suggest a snake-oil salesman. And due to overcorrection, typically do a really bad job of it :-). -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53

Re: Which kid's beginners programming - Python or Forth?

2005-06-28 Thread Erik Max Francis
s, so you shouldn't have any problem finding something both you and the kids can use, like UCBLogo for Unix or MSWLogo for Windows (based on UCBLogo). If you want to go that route, there's even a set of computer science texts based on Logo, called _Computer Science Logo Style_ by Bria

Re: Favorite non-python language trick?

2005-06-30 Thread Erik Max Francis
ncf wrote: > Eh, just figured it'd be worth noting...map, filter, and reduce should > be possible with the extended list syntaxes. Well, filter I know is, > but hte others /should/ be possible. > > filter(lambda: <>, <>) > [some_var for some_var in <> if

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
before I found Python. I definitely use lambda, map, filter, and reduce, and will miss them when they're gone. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Heaven

Re: When someone from Britain speaks, Americans hear a "Britishaccent"...

2005-07-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
The distinction is rhotic vs. non-rhotic accents, by the way; non-rhotic accents drop the _r_s. The latter example is usually an example of overcorrection. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W &a

Re: Accepted Summer of Code proposals

2005-07-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
ul projects got approved. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Heaven ne'er helps the man who will not act. -- Sophocles -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
Sean McIlroy wrote: > if that's the case then list > comprehensions and/or "first class functions" are likely to be the next > target. Slippery slope arguments are logical fallacies, you know. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyo

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-02 Thread Erik Max Francis
in fact it's quite clear). So at least there's something to that, but I don't follow it the whole way. But removing reduce is just removing functionality for no other reason, it seems, than spite. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientificmini-survey

2005-07-03 Thread Erik Max Francis
nce) vs. [str(x) for x in sequence] -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis In Heaven all the interesting people are missing. -- Friedrich Nietzsche -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-03 Thread Erik Max Francis
g the reasons for removing them as builtins, I really can't understand the motivation for removing them entirely, not even as a standard library module. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 5

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-03 Thread Erik Max Francis
oduct fulfill 90% (estimate of course) of reduces > use cases. It may actually be as high as 99% for all I know. Or it may > be less. Anyone care to try and put a real measurement on it? Well, reduce covers 100% of them, and it's one function, and it's already there. --

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-03 Thread Erik Max Francis
t handles all the required use cases and replacing it with _two_ functions that don't. Since it's doubling the footprint of the reduce functionality, arguments about avoiding pollution are red herrings. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/

Re: f*cking re module

2005-07-04 Thread Erik Max Francis
l last): > File "", line 1, in ? > AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'group' > > the only thing I want are the number of places blabla, Re modules > sucks! and blabla are. Your question is still not clear. What you're searching

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-04 Thread Erik Max Francis
Steven Bethard wrote: > And it's almost two times slower: That's because you're not using operator.add. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfranci

Re: f*cking re module

2005-07-04 Thread Erik Max Francis
tantrum look foolish in public is to treat them with dignity and respect while they continue rambling and ranting. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Sometim

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
al form is explicitly called an "n-tuple" or "tuple" in mathematics. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Death to all fanatics! -- Malaclypse the Younger -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-07 Thread Erik Max Francis
", line 1 (,) ^ SyntaxError: invalid syntax You've wandered way off into the woods now. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis But since when can wounded eyes see / If we weren't who we were -- Joi -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: map/filter/reduce/lambda opinions and background unscientific mini-survey

2005-07-07 Thread Erik Max Francis
Ron Adam wrote: > Well in my previous explanation I *mean* it to be empty parenthesis. > > Does that help? Maybe it might be beneficial to learn a little more of the language before proposing such wide-reaching (and un-Pythonic) reforms? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL P

Re: file.readlines() question

2005-07-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
o memory at once, which can obviously be expensive if the file is large. A for loop with .readline, of course, will work, but modern versions of Python allow iteration over a file, which will read it line by line: for line in aFile: ... -- Erik Max Francis &&

Re: What is Expresiveness in a Computer Language?

2005-07-10 Thread Erik Max Francis
Randy Howard wrote: > Out of curiosity, does anyone remember who 'jgs' refers to > above? A Google search for "ascii art jgs" shows it's Joan Stark. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA &

Re: all possible combinations

2005-07-14 Thread Erik Max Francis
William Park wrote: > Since you're doing cross product (ie. 3*3*3*3), manual loop of 4 level > deep would be the fastest in terms of algorithm. That's a Cartesian product, actually :-). -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San

Re: Difference between " and '

2005-07-22 Thread Erik Max Francis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Can someone tell me the difference between single quote and double > quote? One has double the fun. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfran

Re: return None

2005-07-23 Thread Erik Max Francis
turn statement with an argument, and if I intend a method that returns a useful value to return one that might be None, I do so expliclitly, rather than having the logic fall off the end of the function, making it unclear what was intended in the first place. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL

Re: Extreme n00b question

2005-07-25 Thread Erik Max Francis
;a-simple-python-example') -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis If the sky should fall, hold up your hands. -- (a Spanish proverb) -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Selection, picking with PyOpenGL?

2005-07-29 Thread Erik Max Francis
to OpenGL?) -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis I will always remember / This moment -- Sade -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Comparison of functions

2005-07-30 Thread Erik Max Francis
ic ordering with sort order. Python doesn't have a distinction between these two, so yes, you're sorting with comparison operators. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM e

Re: Selection, picking with PyOpenGL?

2005-07-30 Thread Erik Max Francis
on, which, like the OpenGL documentation, talks about it returning the number of hits. I didn't look carefully enough at the Python return value :-). Thanks, Mike! -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 2

Re: Is this Pythonic?

2005-08-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
raise NotImplementedError ... def bar(self): raise NotImplementedError -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Everything

Re: Is this Pythonic?

2005-08-01 Thread Erik Max Francis
if it's just a typo, and not severe negligence, that helps the problem get fixed sooner, rather than later. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Morality is a wea

Re: why no arg, abs methods for comlex type?

2005-08-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
Daniel Schüle wrote: > what do you think about it? > maybe there exists some proposals aiming this goal? Derive your own subclass of complex and define those methods. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA &

Re: why no arg, abs methods for comlex type?

2005-08-05 Thread Erik Max Francis
gradians, which aren't the same thing; gradians are defined so that there are 400 gradians in a circle (so 100 gradians in a right angle). -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM

Re: Pickling limitation with instances defining __cmp__/__hash__?

2005-08-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
Erik Max Francis wrote: > I've come across a limitation in unpickling certain types of complex > data structures which involve instances that override __hash__, and was > wondering if it was known (basic searches didn't seem to come up with > anything similar) and if the

Re: .pth files

2005-08-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
Richie Hindle wrote: > http://google.com/search?q=site:docs.python.org%20pth > > The first hit explains how .pth files work (although it's the sort of > documentation that makes Xah Lee explode with fury). That just makes it all the more delicious. -- Erik Max Francis &a

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
ike search > your sources or build tags files, Perforce doesn't leave turds in your > development tree. It also is free for personal use (up to 2 clients, 2 users) and open soruce projects can get free licenses. Or at least it was so the last I checked. -- Erik Max Francis

Re: Recommendations for CVS systems

2005-08-10 Thread Erik Max Francis
They can't force upgrades, so even if they changed that policy in the future, they can't take that away from you. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis A fa

Re: what's the exactly newsgroup url of python-list?

2005-08-10 Thread Erik Max Francis
and vice versa. They are not completely unrelated entities. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Make it come down / Like molasses rain -- Sandra St. Victor -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Jargons of Info Tech industry

2005-08-11 Thread Erik Max Francis
Xah Lee wrote: > Jargons of Info Tech industry > > (A Love of Jargons) > > Xah Lee, 2002 Feb Congratulations, this time you managed to get to your second paragraph before your Tourette's kicked in. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://ww

Re: Cheese shop (was Re: python2.4/site-packages)

2005-08-12 Thread Erik Max Francis
ame; Cheese Shop is just a silly name for no purpose. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis We learn from history that we do not learn from history. -- Georg Friedrich

Re: How to obtain GMT offset?

2005-08-15 Thread Erik Max Francis
new pip wrote: > I'm using Windows os. If the current system date time is '28 Jun 2001 > 14:17:15 +0700', how can I obtain the value '+0700' using python? time.timezone gives you the timezone offset in minutes. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to obtain GMT offset?

2005-08-16 Thread Erik Max Francis
Bengt Richter wrote: > > time.timezone gives you the timezone offset in minutes. > > ITYM seconds? I sure did. But at least minutes is a more entertaining answer. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, US

Re: Python jobs (was Re: Python for Webscripting (like PHP))

2005-08-18 Thread Erik Max Francis
d telecommuting, either ... :-) -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis There is no present or future; only the past, happening over and over again, now. -- Eugene O'Neill -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Speed quirk: redundant line gives six-fold speedup

2005-08-25 Thread Erik Max Francis
when you ran the first test, but not the second test, resulting in the discrepancy. In other words, the speed change had nothing to do with your dummy lines. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W &

Re: Speed quirk: redundant line gives six-fold speedup

2005-08-25 Thread Erik Max Francis
eal effect given the other sightings. I don't see any speed difference, myself (Pentium IV 3.0 GHz running Slackware Linux). -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM er

Re: Release of PyPy 0.7.0

2005-08-28 Thread Erik Max Francis
d by the European Union: Cool. I just tested EmPy's regression suite with PyPy 0.7.0, and it ran fine (though obviously it was very slow). Nice job so far, guys! -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121

Re: unicode and os.system

2005-09-02 Thread Erik Max Francis
Dumbkiwi wrote: > Can anyone help me to work through this issue? I'm a bit lost as to where > to start. If you want to convert it to UTF-8, then do so with u.decode('utf-8') -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/

Re: unicode and os.system

2005-09-02 Thread Erik Max Francis
ng though. That means one of the other things you're trying to print with %s is also a Unicode string, and it contains non-ASCII characters. Try printing their types to see which one it is. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, C

Re: Job Offer in Paris, France : R&D Engineer (Plone)

2005-09-06 Thread Erik Max Francis
en realize you're having this conversation over the Python mailing list/newsgroup, rather than by private email? -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Defeat is a

Re: Question about consistency in python language

2005-09-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
ist itself). One could modify the above statement about consistency to say that methods which modify an object and do not return a directed value do not return the object which was mutated, but rather return None. So list.append returns None, but list.pop returns the element popped. -- Erik

Re: What's the difference between VAR and _VAR_?

2005-09-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
> > (II) > class TestResult: > pass = "pass" > fail = "fail" > exception = "exception" > >Thanks for your help. There's nothing per se different between a variable named 'x' and one named '_x_&#

Re: What's the difference between VAR and _VAR_?

2005-09-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
varaible named `_passxxx_', the other defines one named `passsxxx'. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes. -- Oscar Wilde -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: What's the difference between VAR and _VAR_?

2005-09-08 Thread Erik Max Francis
Johnny Lee wrote: > I mean besides the difference of name... You're going to have to be more clear; I don't understand your question. What's the difference between a = 1 and b = 1 besides the difference of name? -- Erik Max Francis &&

Re: What's the difference between VAR and _VAR_?

2005-09-09 Thread Erik Max Francis
', '__module__'] >>> c = C() >>> dir(c) ['_C__x', '__doc__', '__module__'] >>> c._C__x 1 -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis What is now prov'd was once only imagin'd. -- William Blake -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: Printing w/o newlines inside loops - odd behavior

2005-09-13 Thread Erik Max Francis
() in between your prints. -- Erik Max Francis && [EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.alcyone.com/max/ San Jose, CA, USA && 37 20 N 121 53 W && AIM erikmaxfrancis Substance is one of the greatest of our illusions. -- Sir Arthur Eddington -- http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list

Re: No newline using printf

2005-09-15 Thread Erik Max Francis
Samuel wrote: > How can I print a word without appending a newline character? Appending > a "," to the print statement only substitutes the newline for a space, > which is not what I am looking for. Use sys.stdout.write directly. -- Erik Max Francis &&

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