On Nov 20, 2007 7:19 AM, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There are a lot of web frameworks for python like django, mod_python,
> spyce, turbo gears, Zope, Cherrypy etc. Which one is the best in terms
> of performance and ease of study.
I wouldn't classify mod_pytho
On Nov 20, 2007 8:46 AM, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Django comes with its own little server so that you don't have
> to set up Apache on your desktop to play with it.
Pylons too, it's good for development but using the bundled web server
is not recommended for production.
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On Nov 21, 10:15 am, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Nov 21, 1:37 pm, BartlebyScrivener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> > On Nov 20, 3:39 pm, Graham Dumpleton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > This only holds if actually hosted on Apache. As Django these days
> > > supports
On Nov 21, 2007 5:42 AM, joe jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts I understand that
> Django and pylons are the best. By searching the net earlier I got the
> same information that Django is best among the frameworks so I
> downloa
On Nov 21, 2007 10:15 AM, Gilles Ganault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I know about socket.gethostbyname, but this relies on what's in
> /etc/hosts, and I'd rather have a more independent solution.
I might be missing something in your question, but on a Windows XP
machine, I can get the IP address
On Nov 21, 10:27 pm, Steven Bethard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > On Nov 21, 6:25 am, Bruno Desthuilliers > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> joe jacob a écrit :
> >> (snip)
>
> >>> Thanks everyone for the response. From the posts
I'm not sure how to even ask this question. I'm working on a financial
reporting application. The current system is very limited in what it can
display. You can see reports with columns of Period, Quarter, Year to date
or you can see a yearly trend. I'd like for the users to be able to define
t
I've been playing with Python a bit. Doing little performance benchmarks and
working with Psyco. It's been fun and I've been learning a lot. For
example, in a previous post, I was looking for a way to dynamically add new
runtime function to a class. Martin told me to use a class instance
variabl
>90+ seconds?? What hardware, OS, and Python version? What else was
>running in the background?
>With this kit:
>OS Name: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
>Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
>Processor: x86 Family 15 Model 36 Stepping 2 AuthenticAMD ~1995 Mhz
>Python: Pyt
ern Schliessmann
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Subject: Re: I'm missing something here with range vs. xrange
Joe Goldthwaite wrote:
> I read that the range function builds a list and that xrange
> returns an iterator and is therefore more effici
Duncan Booth wrote:
>for item in list:
>if item == 'searched.domain':
>return item...
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>Sure, but I have two options here, none of them nice: either "write C
>in Python" or do it inefficient and still elaborate way.
I don't understand your point at all. How
>You can't imagine why someone might prefer an iterative solution over
>a greedy one? Depending on the conditions, the cost of creating the
>list can be a greater or a lesser part of the total time spent. Actual
>iteration is essentially the same cost for both. Try looking at memory
>usage while yo
>You bring up an excellent point. It might seem like I'm actually running
on
>a Macbook Pro with an Intel Core 2 Duo at 2.33 GHz with 2 GB of ram.
Err... Uhh... What I meant to say was "It might seem like I'm running on an
old
slow POS but I'm actually running on a Macbook Pro..."
Sorry, me fl
On Dec 10, 2007 9:03 PM, Whizzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is OReilly's Learning Python a good place to start learning to program?
> I've been told Python is a good first language.
I think this is a great place to start, there is a free version right
there online.
http://diveintopython.org/
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Hi everyone, sorry, this post is a bit off topic. I posted this on a
devel xul thread on the mozilla groups but didn't get a response. My
hope is that some of you may have interest in this and have tried it
yourself.
I've been trying to get xulrunner compiled with python (in windows) but
have be
Well, it's my understanding (I could be wrong), that pyxpcom is to
enable firefox/mozilla to use python. My interest is more in the area
of xulrunner. I've read that page several times and pulled
compiler/linker build steps from it, but never followed it exactly. I
suppose I can try pyxpcom inste
Alex Martelli wrote:
> Ken Tilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
> > But the key in the whole thread is simply that indentation will not
> > scale. Nor will Python.
>
> Absolutely. That's why firms who are interested in building *seriously*
> large scale systems, like my employer (and suppli
Alex Martelli wrote:
>
> Your "pragmatic benefits", if such they were, would also apply to the
> issue of "magic numbers", which was discussed in another subthread of
> this unending thread; are you therefore arguing, contrary to widespread
> opinion [also concurred in by an apparently-Lisp-orient
Pisin Bootvong wrote:
> Is this a Slippery Slope fallacious argument?
> (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?SlipperySlope)
>
> "if python required you to name every function then soon it will
> require you to name every number, every string, every immediate result,
> etc. And we know that is bad. Therefore re
Alex Martelli wrote:
>
> I think it's reasonable to make a name a part of functions, classes and
> modules because they may often be involved in tracebacks (in case of
> uncaught errors): to me, it makes sense to let an error-diagnosing
> tracebacks display packages, modules, classes and functions
Alex Martelli wrote:
> Joe Marshall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>...
> > The problem is that a `name' is a mapping from a symbolic identifier to
> > an object and that this mapping must either be global (with the
> > attendant name collision issues) or withi
On Jan 7, 2008 8:09 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The best thing about Python is ___.
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On Jan 12, 2008 2:00 PM, radiosrfun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Whether we agree on "tactics" or not - if it come to a battlefield with the
> two of us - or any Americans there - we're still going to fight the same
> enemy - not each other.
This is a good resource for starting Python
http://divei
On Jan 12, 2008 10:13 AM, Jorgen Bodde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I thought about that too. I just wonder why /usr/local/bin is always
> empty and every .deb I install from a source (if it's from Ubuntu or
> not) installs files in /usr/bin .. So I looked further and noticed
> that most python fil
On Jan 18, 4:11 pm, Marc 'BlackJack' Rintsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:06:51 -0800, joe jacob wrote:
> > I wrote a python script to perform XOR encryption on a text and write
> > the encrypted text to a file. But when I try to read the
I wrote a python script to perform XOR encryption on a text and write
the encrypted text to a file. But when I try to read the file as the
encrypted text contains an EOF in between the file is read only to the
first EOF and remaining part of the text is not read.
I used the text "hello world" and
I am trying to open a file containing non displayable characters like
contents an exe file. The is is with the below mentioned code:
self.text_ctrl_1.SetValue(file_content)
If the file_content contains non displayable characters I am getting
an error like this:
Traceback (most recent call last):
Hi All,
I am planning to design a website using windows, apache, mysql,
python. But I came to know that python cgi is very slow. I came across
mod_python also but no good documentation are available for learning
mod_python. Suggest me a good solution for this as I don't know other
languages like P
oin (
> >>chr (random.randint (0, 255)) for i in range (1000)
> >> )
> >> munged_text = "".join (
> >>c if 32 <= ord (c) <= 126 else hex (ord (c)) for c in file_content
> >> )
>
> >> print repr (file_content)
> >
On Jan 29, 2008 12:11 PM, walterbyrd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not really sure about what wsgi is supposed to accomplish.
This will explain WSGI: http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0333/
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On Jan 29, 2008 1:35 PM, Hannah Drayson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It imports as a string of rubbish...
> i.e.
>
>
> >>> text = f.read()
> >>> print text
> ?F?C??y??>?
> @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@???/???8[EMAIL PROTECTED]/[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]@?Q???Q???Q???Q???Q??ǑR[???Q?
On Jan 29, 2008 1:59 PM, Joe Riopel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When reading the file, try using
> file = open('data.bin', 'rb')
> file.seek(0)
> raw = file.read()
>
> Do the unpack on "raw".
Ignore this, sorry for the confusion.
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Since you're unpacking it with the 'd' format character I am assuming
a "doubleword" field is a double. You said you had 113 of them in the
binary file. You should be doing something like this:
file = open('data.bin', 'rb')
file.seek(0)
raw = file.re
On Jan 29, 2008 9:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you're going to delete elements from
> a list while iterating over it, then do
> it in reverse order:
how about
>>> li = [1,2,3,4,5]
>>> filter(lambda x: x != 3, li)
[1, 2, 4, 5]
>>>
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On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Mark M Manning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I need your expertise with a sockets question.
>
> Let me preface this by saying I don't have much experience with
> sockets in general so this question may be simple.
I would suggest taking a quick look at this tutori
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Nathan Pinno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How do I factor a number? I mean how do I translate x! into proper
> Python code, so that it will always do the correct math?
This should work to do x! (factorial of x).
reduce(lambda x,y: x*y, range(1, x+1))
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On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:38 AM, Joe Riopel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Nathan Pinno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How do I factor a number? I mean how do I translate x! into proper
> > Python code, so that it will always do the cor
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 10:58 AM, davidj411 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, that makes sense. Are there any local relational databases
> available to python that don't require a server backend?
sqlite
http://www.sqlite.org/
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model is most definitely not the same as C.
Technically true, in that pointers in C require some special syntax, but
the common idiom is to hide this away by defining a new type:
typedef Foo* FooPtr;
Now, for any code using the "FooPtr" type, the data model is the same as
Python (or as Java, RB, .NET, etc., again for code that's using only
reference types).
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r is called "foo", and you pass in "bar", then
foo = SomeNewArray();
would change bar if it were passed by reference; it would not affect bar
at all if it were passed by value.
The two are quite distinct.
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at held or generated the reference in the calling code.
This is very odd, and I see it quite a bit.
Me: "You pass the object."
Joe: "That's correct. You pass the reference."
What was wrong with my original?
I'm saying that I believe your idea was correct, but wor
ronment.
One odd thing was the need to employ the HACK identified above, where if
__file__ happens to already be in the current directory, then
os.path.dirname of it returns the empty-string -- yet the empty-string
is not a valid argument to os.listdir(). Is there a better way to a
list of files in the same directory as a given file?
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James Mills wrote:
You know you could just store a __version__
attribute in your main library (__init__.py). :)
What, and update it manually? I don't trust myself to remember to do
that every time!
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Yes, and presumably if some power user did this, then that would be the
intended effect. Not sure why they'd do that, but they must have a good
reason -- who am I to stop them?
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ir change to be), and tell them to re-download it.
But really, this is NOT going to happen. These users wouldn't even know
how to open the app bundle to find the Python files.
Any comments on the functioning and platform-independence of the code?
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ing unnecessary parentheses does a lot to improve the
readability of the code IMHO.
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to be written something like:
g f("abc", 123), "def"
I'm not saying I know how to translate this into Python -- some of
Python's other language features make this difficult. Just pointing out
that your original wish is possible in at least some languages.
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adability of the code IMHO.
But they're not unnecessary, at least not in Python, they're useful for
distinguishing between calling the function and the function itself.
Yes, quite true in Python. If there were some other way to distinguish
between those -- and if tupl
= f
could mean either, 'a= f' or 'a= f()'. Once again the return values
save the day.
I think I agree (if I follow you correctly). But then some other syntax
would be needed for when you really mean "a=f" (i.e., make 'a' refer to
the same function as 'f').
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anything -- the parser already knows
that the list of zero or more comma-separated expressions following the
identifier must be arguments. So, again, the parens are optional.
It seems to me that the cost of this is that using functions
> as first-class objects takes a major usability
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Xah Lee wrote:
> The haskell tutorials you can find online are the most mothefucking
> stupid unreadable fuck. The Haskll community is almost stupid. What
> they talk all day is about monads, currying, linder myer fuck type.
> That's what they talk about all day. A
nd a Terminal window. I tried
several IDEs and didn't really find any of them stable and feature-rich
enough to be worth the bother (though Editra came close).
Lack of a really top-notch IDE is one of the primary drags harshing on
my Python buzz (as the young people say).
Best,
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I typically use vim/vi, because it's usually already installed on the
OS's I work with and vim for Windows works the same. Also, using the
same editor across these different OS's, I don't have to worry too
much soft/hard tabs. The contents of rc files on both Windows and
UNIX/Linux are the same too
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Qian Xu wrote:
> self.assertEquals(testMethod1(), expected_value1);
> self.assertEquals(testMethod2(), expected_value2);
>
> However, if the first test item is failed, no more tests will be executed.
> Can I tell Python,
> 1. go ahead, if a failure is occurred.
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:04 AM, News123 wrote:
> Hi,
> I'd like to do some web automation with python 2.5
> - https:
> - a cookiejar
> - some forms to be filled in
> what is the best set of modules.
I have automated some testing of our product, using it's web UI with
Python with urllib2 and urrl
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 12:03 PM, David wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I copied a program from C to track multiple log files. I would like to be
> able to print a label when a log file is updated. Here is the program;
Since you're calling tail itself, why not just use tail's ability to
tail multiple f
asn't been renamed in the
meantime...
Please quit trying to confuse the kids at home. Classes in Python are
first-class objects, and any time you refer to a class or any other
object in Python, what you have is a reference to it.
<http://www.strout.net/info/coding/valref/>
ssed are object references."
(I should add that last bit to my web page -- I'll try to do that this
weekend.)
Cheers,
- Joe
P.S. I've pretty well tired of this thread, but I can't let Greg stand
up for truth and clarity all by himself...
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thoughtful comments. You do
yourself credit.
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sion.
So... besides "division", are there any other imports you would
recommend as standard for any new code written in 2.5? And what else
do you experienced gurus put at the top of every Python file?
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On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks in advance,
There is no right, or wrong, answer to this question. Try one for a
few weeks, force yourself to use it as exclusively as possible for all
your text editing needs. After that, repeat that process with the
other e
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Josh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks in advance,
There is no right, or wrong, answer to this question. Try one for a
few weeks, force yourself to use it as exclusively as possible for all
your text editing needs. After that, repeat that process with the
other e
The code below works (in linux), but I'm wondering if there is a
better/easier/cleaner way? It works on directory trees that don't
have a lot of "."s in them or other special characters. I haven't
implemented a good handler for that yet, so if you run this in your
system, choose/make a simple dire
ed to use a loop to find each # and then count the
quotation marks to its left?
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but it looks to me like you've found a bug.
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ions (like the system beep) and works in console apps or in any
flavor of GUI app. Is there such a module out there somewhere?
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On Dec 7, 2008, at 8:48 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2008-12-07, Joe Strout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
But invoking the standard system beep
What makes you think there is such a thing as "the standard system
beep"?
Because OS X (the platform with which I'm most fa
entious process required to add
something to the Python system libraries, where would be the next best
place for this sort of simple OS abstraction layer?
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, which is roughly analogous to a
pointer type in C/C++. For details and examples, see: <http://www.strout.net/info/coding/valref/
>
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On Dec 8, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 08:18:27 -0700, Joe Strout wrote:
On Dec 7, 2008, at 10:26 PM, Group wrote:
Now, I want to write a Red-Black Tree, and a List structure. In C/C
+ +,
I can
use pointers to refer to children notes (or next notes)
the
OP's observation.
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xplanation of why you can't do quite what you're asking
for in Python (or Java, for that matter).
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unately I don't know enough about SWIG to suggest a work-
around. Hopefully someone more versed in SWIG will have a bright
idea. If you don't find anything in the Python space, you might try
poking around in Java references, since Java has the same call
semantics as Python.
to want both at once, but I can't understand what that means.
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f you then wanted to get to that thing's E
object, it'd be foo.ds_obj.ele_obj.
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On Dec 12, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Steve Holden wrote:
Change the default value of ds_obj here to None. Otherwise, you will
certainly confuse yourself (there would be just one default object
shared among all instances).
Joe missed a piece out here. If you change the signature of your
D.__init__
hen you probably want to do a few other replacements; google
"SQL injection" for details.)
Note that I'm not familiar with the cursor.execute binding that RDM
pointed out, so that may provide a better solution... but the above
should work.
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( "toc.oscar.aol.com", 9898 )
...but I don't understand AIM well enough to know the correct values
(and was rather hoping that I wouldn't have to).
Does anyone know how to get Py-TOC to work, or have another Python TOC
implementation to suggest?
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n that module? Will that work,
and is there a better way?
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fer in encoding, could be handled automatically.
I consider this one of the great shortcomings of Python, but it's mostly
just a temporary inconvenience -- the world is moving to Unicode, and
with Python 3, we won't have to worry about it so much.
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Peter Otten wrote:
If you are using Python 2.x:
...
So you better throw in a float(...):
Or, add
from __future__ import division
at the top of the file. I put this at the top of all my Python files,
whether I expect to be dividing or not. It just saves grief.
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ange all your code to use the unambiguous // operator when
you mean integer division. Better to do it now, I think, at least in
any new code you write, to save you the hassle later.
For those not familiar with the topic:
<http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0238/>
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if neither is, then both are
converted to UTF-8 (which is the "standard" encoding in RB, though it
works comfily with any other too).
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mehow easier than every string knowing what it is and
doing the right thing -- well, that's just silly.
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Alvin ONeal wrote:
Also worthy of mention:
I've seen python pre-installed on consumer HP desktops (I think as
part of a backup/restore script, but I'm not sure)
It's pre-installed on every Mac (both desktop and laptop), too.
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put to a window,
while False does not redirect it.
However, neither setting will create a bidirectional console or
evaluation environment as the OP was asking for. (But other wx widgets
do provide that, as other replies have pointed out.)
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b some of your verbage for
<http://www.strout.net/info/coding/valref/>, as it may be clearer than
my own.
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r the
upcoming years, I'll certainly do my part.
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;ve started learning it just
last week, and apart from the nasty C-derived syntax, it's quite nice.
It has a good IDE, good performance, great portability, and it's easy to
use. It just surprises me that after all these years, the Python
community hasn't done somethin
ut I'll admit
that this does mostly fit the bill I described above (or has the
potential to, anyway).
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hardware, or spend a bit more for something with a USB or serial
interface built in, like this:
<http://www.oceanserver-store.com/osevkitsorus.html>
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arently isn't, to some) that
this restricted, uniform data model does not fundamentally change
anything; it just makes Python a little more restricted and uniform.
For details, see: <http://www.strout.net/info/coding/valref/>
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the picture at some point, because other models get too complicated.
I agree completely. I can barely understand the other models myself.
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[1] http://www.strout.net/info/coding/valref/
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it.
If you can find a language where an array variable is NOT a reference
(and thus does not behave exactly as in Python, Java, REALbasic, C++,
etc.), then that language is either a dinosaur or some weird academic
oddity.
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sual in that it has only reference types. I would have picked a
different example to illustrate that, but it's true nonetheless.
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amed method -- or, for that
matter, if the assignment statement looked for such a method when it
finds an object reference on the left-hand side -- then any object could
be an lvalue, and you COULD (in some cases) assign to the result of a
function. But it's not and it doesn't.
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assignments, and why responding to such
misunderstandings with, "Python's assignments are
the same as other languages'", is at best not helpful.
I don't think so. More likely, people are being confused by the claim
that Python's assignments are NOT like other languages, when in fact
they are.
Best,
- Joe
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n one of the above. I gather (from just a couple days of browsing)
that such a naming convention isn't common in the Python community,
but is there anyone else here who does it? I'd rather adopt an
existing standard (even if it's not widely used) than make one up.
Many thanks,
- Joe
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